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Post by lurkerhoya on Nov 21, 2009 14:31:25 GMT -5
I still wish Chaney had gotten close enough to pop Calipari in the mouth. That was a press conference. Simply awesome....
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Post by lurkerhoya on Nov 21, 2009 14:29:29 GMT -5
And Henry seemed to be active on defense. I've been cleaning up, but I heard an empahtic Rich call for a Henry block.
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Post by lurkerhoya on Nov 21, 2009 13:14:55 GMT -5
Where the hell are all of these steals coming from??? Are we sloppy or are they good?
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Post by lurkerhoya on Nov 21, 2009 13:10:05 GMT -5
Boy am I glad these first 3 minutes aren't on TV...
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Post by lurkerhoya on Nov 21, 2009 12:34:20 GMT -5
I always imagine Rich sitting courtside at Verizon Center like in Bull Durham for games like this.
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Post by lurkerhoya on Nov 18, 2009 23:49:52 GMT -5
Following on RDF, the biggest thing lacking is initiating the offense quickly.
Not to harp on the merits of JWall, but as soon as that ball got over halfcourt, he was zipping a pass somewhere to get the machine moving. It's one of the fundamentals of what we run.
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Post by lurkerhoya on Nov 18, 2009 19:49:32 GMT -5
Create a shot for himself? That's about all he does, and in doing so he pretty much turns our other 4 guys into Allen Iverson's rebound crew.
Create a shot for others? He has 3 assists in 2 games as our starting PG.
Move without the ball? You have to be kidding me. This also goes to creating a shot for himself since he never gets open on his own, and has no three-point range that would make him effective even if he did get open. When he doesn't have the ball in his hands, he simply tunes out.
I'm not trying to trash the kid. I like what CW brings, but the only insanity is thinking he's the type of PG that can run this team and this offense. He has a role on this team, and I don't see why it's so insane to think that it might not be as our starting PG, but instead in one that plays to his ability (maybe his only one) as a slasher/scorer.
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Post by lurkerhoya on Nov 18, 2009 19:28:35 GMT -5
What a misleading title.
We all know Syracuse has the worst fans in the country...
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Post by lurkerhoya on Nov 18, 2009 19:22:58 GMT -5
Given that the NBA has such a tight rookie pay-scale, dropping from 5th to 15th isn't such a big deal anyway. Yeah, ~$5m is a lot of money, but it's not an NFL-esque disparity of probably closer to $20m.
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Post by lurkerhoya on Nov 18, 2009 19:15:10 GMT -5
That's not a knock on CW, just an acknowledgment that Clark is a better true PG at initiating the offense and CW doesn't seem to be able to play without the ball. I agree with you. But how is that not a knock on CW? Well CW has a skill set that certainly has a purpose. I could envision him thriving as a 6th man looking to pump in points when he comes in. His style of play would be a nice change of pace from how we typically play and could help force other teams to adjust in a way that could create more favorable matchups for him and the other guys. That way, you get 25 min or so out of him, with 10 that help fill that lull where we get offensively stagnant. Except, now it wouldn't be a lull, it would be a complete change of pace, but one we can actually run.
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Post by lurkerhoya on Nov 18, 2009 14:52:17 GMT -5
I'm really liking Clark and what he brings. Call me crazy, but I'd almost rather see him at the 1 with Hollis at the 2. That's not a knock on CW, just an acknowledgment that Clark is a better true PG at initiating the offense and CW doesn't seem to be able to play without the ball.
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Post by lurkerhoya on Nov 18, 2009 14:48:25 GMT -5
CW off the ball sounds great in theory, but I wonder what would happen in practice.
I say this constructively, but he's shown no ability to do anything without the ball, specifically moving around and making himself into a good 2nd or 3rd option after initiating the offense. It's unfair to compare him to JWall, but that was probably what made him such an important part of those teams: he knew how to initiate the offense and then make himself an effective 3rd option. Until CW learns how to do that, I suspect we'll see more stretches like what we saw yesterday.
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Post by lurkerhoya on Nov 17, 2009 22:19:58 GMT -5
I'm interested to see if JV can fill the Ewing-role that we all feel has sort of been missing. Granted, he's not coming off the bench, but if he can get down there and muck it up, back Greg up on the boards, and grab 8 or so garbage points, it could be just what we need. He's definitely got the body for it and he has to know that he's option #3 at best when he's out there and usually #5. Rumble, young man, Rumble.
As for the 3s, perhaps this summer he added a bit of range that we'll see come out in the next few weeks. I mean, he's not taking that shot unless he had some thought he could make it.
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Post by lurkerhoya on Nov 17, 2009 22:13:41 GMT -5
You should have stopped at the first post.
I want Greg on that ball, I need Greg on that ball.
I mean, for all of Greg's flaws, I'd say hitting him in the post cleanly on his strong hand down one point is the best friggin' play you can draw up. You run that play down one, you will win more games than you lose. Bet Dat...
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Post by lurkerhoya on Nov 17, 2009 22:09:25 GMT -5
I assumed they just got in the huddle and said, "Get Greg the damn ball!" and then discussed the best Wisey's sandwich for the next minute.
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Post by lurkerhoya on Nov 17, 2009 21:59:24 GMT -5
Tough to say that Temple missing open shots makes it less of a "win." From my view, almost every three we took, outside of those taken by a guy over 6'8" (or the last one by Wright) was both an open look and in the flow. Maybe it will take a game or two for the Hoyas to readjust to the Verizon sightlines--we know they barely get to practice there, but shooting just 5-18 from three (nevermind making a couple of the missed layups) makes this a totally different game. I kept getting texts saying, "Gah, the sky is falling. Gah, we suck..." I said, patience, they're missing shots, but they're good looks. For the first 25 minutes, my only gripe offensively was that the shots weren't falling. Next 15 minutes, another story... In short, I'm not worried about our shooting. If we can create the looks we had in the early part of the game for 40 minutes, we'll win more than our share.
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Post by lurkerhoya on Nov 17, 2009 19:34:58 GMT -5
I guess what concerns me is the visible, palpable frustration of the players when running the offense doesn't yield results. I know it may be their fault and it isn't the "system," but something is not clicking here. As the mantra goes, you need to modify the system to the players, not the other way around...i know this is only the second game, but the second half had me in a cold sweat and triggered painful flashbacks of the second half of 08-09. Agreed 100%. I'd just like to see some other sets get worked into our scheme that we can turn to for minutes 25-35 of the game, which is where we typically seem to get a bit flat. Shake it up, keep teams on their toes, force our guys to do something different for a handful of possessions.
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Post by lurkerhoya on Nov 17, 2009 19:00:02 GMT -5
Seeing Greg want, nay, DEMAND the f&*!$^g ball is a huge positive for me.We've got to find our go-to-guy and it was good to see Greg do his damndest to take on that role.
And, you always like to see your team recover from an 18-point swing to win, no matter anything else outside of it.
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Post by lurkerhoya on Nov 17, 2009 18:54:17 GMT -5
You can't rebound like that in the BE and expect to win. It's one thing to be out-rebounded, it's another thing entirely to be not rebound at all. I didn't think our rebounding was a problem. Temple has top level Big East size, we did fine on the boards. We need to start running an offense and making open jumpers when they come up. I'll give you that Allen is a BE-type post beast, but a lot of his O-boards just felt like a complete lack of effort from us. I saw a few plays where someone would have him boxed out, and 2 guys would stand around the post watching him fight for the ball instead of going for it themselves. You need to rebound as a team in those situations, and we've never been particularly strong at it.
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Post by lurkerhoya on Nov 17, 2009 18:48:55 GMT -5
You can't rebound like that in the BE and expect to win. It's one thing to be out-rebounded, it's another thing entirely to be not rebound at all.
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