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Post by daytonahoya31 on Nov 17, 2009 18:03:50 GMT -5
We NEVER would've won this game last year.
We played like kaka, but we fought back from six points down with not a lot of time left. We wouldn't have done that last season.
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Nov 17, 2009 18:06:27 GMT -5
The only positive, but yes, a big one.
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Post by superan on Nov 17, 2009 18:08:44 GMT -5
Yes, agreed though they did miss some key free throws
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Post by sleepy on Nov 17, 2009 18:11:00 GMT -5
This is probably the best outcome you could have hoped from game like this. Sure a blow-out would have been nice, but the team learned alot about itself this game, and gained much needed confidence in close games. Its November, people, just relax.
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Post by HeartAttackHoya on Nov 17, 2009 18:12:40 GMT -5
and they made key stops when they needed to. Chalk this up as an off game that we wont get penalized for. At least Temple is a legit D 1 school. Cough *** 'Cuse ***Cough
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Post by prhoya on Nov 17, 2009 18:15:20 GMT -5
I'll add another positive: Ending Temple's streak against us.
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Post by sleepy on Nov 17, 2009 18:20:39 GMT -5
We outrebounded them by 3
we combined with temple to hold them to 31% shooting
We didnot hide when they went up late.
we showed some mental toughness which was clearly lacking last year.
Ill take that for the middle of november.
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Post by ScreamingHoya on Nov 17, 2009 18:25:50 GMT -5
#2- we "held" them to 31% shooting. No, we didn't. They missed wide open shots, we didn't hold them to anything. The only positive I take out of this game is that Austin is finally not half asleep for most of the game and is actually playing within his ability.
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Post by prhoya on Nov 17, 2009 18:28:34 GMT -5
That's why he used "combined with Temple".
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Post by swhoya on Nov 17, 2009 18:41:26 GMT -5
Another potential positive is the way we managed to win it. From what it sounds like, CW just dribbled around the 2nd-to-last possession and then chunked up a 3 (paging Kevin Braswell to the Phone Booth, Kevin Braswell to the Phone Booth). And for the last possession, we gave it to the big guy and let him win or lose it for us.
Hopefully, the team will learn from that going forward: give it to Monroe and put it on him to win is better than chunking up a 3 (especially when a blind man could have hit more 3's than we did this game).
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Post by SFHoya99 on Nov 17, 2009 18:44:27 GMT -5
To be fair to Chris, while the second to last possession sucked, Greg gave up the ball and Chris got his hands on it with seven seconds left.
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Post by The Stig on Nov 17, 2009 18:56:59 GMT -5
It's better to win an ugly game than to lose a pretty game. One of the hallmarks of JTIII teams that we missed last year was winning close games.
Even in the 'good days' of 2007 and 2008, we had a lot of games that were closer than they should have been. The difference between those years and last year was that we won pretty much all of them in the good days, and lost all of them last year.
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Post by lurkerhoya on Nov 17, 2009 19:00:02 GMT -5
Seeing Greg want, nay, DEMAND the f&*!$^g ball is a huge positive for me.We've got to find our go-to-guy and it was good to see Greg do his damndest to take on that role.
And, you always like to see your team recover from an 18-point swing to win, no matter anything else outside of it.
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Post by calhoya on Nov 17, 2009 19:01:44 GMT -5
Another positive is that Monroe does not look like an obvious early exit to the NBA. Still more potential than production. Obviously things will change, but I do not see any outside shot and little skill moving to his right. Of course no reason to learn in college when you can get pais to learn in the NBA. In fairness I still think this team can make the NCAAs and go far, but only if we can develop better outside shooting and ballhandling. No denying the athleticism though. Wish we could use it more in an upa nd doen game once when the Princeton offense is not clicking. How many teams could stay with these guys?
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Post by ScreamingHoya on Nov 17, 2009 19:22:37 GMT -5
lurker- demanding the ball? I guess I missed that part. If he was demanding the ball, it was so he could catch it, think about going to the hoop for half a second, and then passing it out again. After 33 minutes of play, he had 3 points. Don't get me wrong- he should be the go to guy on this team, but if today is any indication, and I'm not saying it is, he's not there.
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Post by williambraskyiii on Nov 17, 2009 19:26:09 GMT -5
lurker- demanding the ball? I guess I missed that part. If he was demanding the ball, it was so he could catch it, think about going to the hoop for half a second, and then passing it out again. After 33 minutes of play, he had 3 points. Don't get me wrong- he should be the go to guy on this team, but if today is any indication, and I'm not saying it is, he's not there. you obviously weren't watching if you didn't see Greg demanding the ball. you could read his lips on multiple occasions saying, "give me the fkn ball!" so you are just wrong there. I'd rather give him the ball with a chance he would take it to the hole than ANY OTHER OPTION. |
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Post by Buckets on Nov 17, 2009 19:26:42 GMT -5
lurker- demanding the ball? I guess I missed that part. If he was demanding the ball, it was so he could catch it, think about going to the hoop for half a second, and then passing it out again. After 33 minutes of play, he had 3 points. Don't get me wrong- he should be the go to guy on this team, but if today is any indication, and I'm not saying it is, he's not there. "Give Greg the ball and everybody else get out of the #$%&ing way" is a lot better than most of our plays out of timeouts last year. A lot like the Jeff Green vs. Vanderbilt play. |
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Nov 17, 2009 19:27:54 GMT -5
These Temple-GU games are always nightmarish from the point of view of watchable basketball. Recall the last home-home, with the game in the MCI to open JT3's tenure. Matchup zone this early in the season would make anyone want to rip eyes out. Kudos to JT3 for the ballsy scheduling, now let's work out the kinks.
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Post by GUJook97 on Nov 17, 2009 19:29:15 GMT -5
We NEVER would've won this game last year. We played like kaka, but we fought back from six points down with not a lot of time left. We wouldn't have done that last season. That is pretty much word for word what i said when the game ended. I totally agree. |
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Post by ScreamingHoya on Nov 17, 2009 19:51:48 GMT -5
lurker- demanding the ball? I guess I missed that part. If he was demanding the ball, it was so he could catch it, think about going to the hoop for half a second, and then passing it out again. After 33 minutes of play, he had 3 points. Don't get me wrong- he should be the go to guy on this team, but if today is any indication, and I'm not saying it is, he's not there. "Give Greg the ball and everybody else get out of the #$%&ing way" is a lot better than most of our plays out of timeouts last year. A lot like the Jeff Green vs. Vanderbilt play. Except we did give Greg the ball at the end of the game...he held it, and passed it back out to Wright with 2 seconds on the shot clock. All I keep hearing is "well, we won and we didn't do that last year". I'm sorry- we didn't win, Temple lost by not hitting the 800 open jumpers we gave them and by missing more than half their free throws. Show me an actual solid effort by this team and I'll be the first to come on here praising them for the actual improvement they showed. Today was not that game. |
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