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Post by lurkerhoya on Aug 28, 2017 13:45:32 GMT -5
Not to dwell, but I'm assuming this has been his practice for some time since he was coaching and wanted a way to separate things. As in, Kemba Walker has the same number Jagan Mosley has, and if it's 9pm and the work phone rings, let it ring, and if it's one of his guys, he knows he wants to answer it to be there for whatever those guys need.
Frankly, I just see it as an extension of whatever organizing discipline he's developed in this stage of his profession, the same way my wife as a teacher manually checks her work email before she goes to bed because some parents don't always communicate 9-5 and the same way I used to keep a flip phone for police officers to call me out of hours so I knew when it rang that it needed to be answered.
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Post by lurkerhoya on Aug 23, 2017 21:16:18 GMT -5
Just got an email re: Season Tickets. It costs ~$3K for two seats around center court (section111, 13th row). With the schedule we have and the availability of seats, does anyone here think that's a good value or are people buying season tickets just because it's what they do every year? Sadly, if I lived in DC, I couldn't see myself paying this much for tickets. I've renewed mine - have had them for about 15 years. Thought about what it would mean to scrap them and save the $$$ - but it would mean that I'd have to actually work harder to make plans with my buddies in order to see them throughout the winter. Easier to just say "See you at the Alabama A&M game". I renewed because I said I would depending on the coaching hire. Then again, I pay ~$600 for two seats 3 sections over and I'm perfectly content with it just from a relative entertainment value standpoint. If I hit just the big OOC game or two and the saturday games in good seats, I call it a win. Fingers crossed we turn it around and people actually actively ask me for my Monday/Tuesday ones and I can turn them down for a change.
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Post by lurkerhoya on Apr 12, 2017 23:31:15 GMT -5
Always go with the simplest explanation:
Yes, Tremont reads Casual Hoya.
Casual Hoya wants the team to deliver pizzas to Roey.
Ergo, Tremont intuited that Roey would demand this pizza sacrifice two weeks before he actually did and decided he would not partake.
Mystery solved.
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Post by lurkerhoya on Apr 7, 2017 12:50:16 GMT -5
Huge missed opportunity.
Natural rival with Creighton, basketball only. Should have packaged them up with UConn (if they're ever ready to give up on the delusion of being a relevant football program) or another basketball-focused school and gotten to our ideal 12.
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Post by lurkerhoya on Apr 7, 2017 7:40:53 GMT -5
Cool story, brah.
This isn't a knock on your lack of experience with the program, but I've been beating a similar drum for a while. The fact is, this is just a different job, you probably haven't been around long enough to appreciate that. GO back and read my posts since the 23rd, I practically called to a T what was going to go down, and I know nothing more than what I read and what I know from years of watching this.
But, really, the main difference between you and I, it doesn't bother me.
I don't want Tom Crean, who seems like a nice enough guy, but doesn't really have any idea what makes this place special.
I don't want Danny Hurley, who is going to use the first Sweet 16 he makes to ask for a raise or bolt to some perceived better job.
I don't want Mike Brey, because beyond breaking with the past it would be spitting in its face no matter how good a coach he is.
If the fact that we didn't hire a name you liked or wanted has changed your ideas of the program, it says more about you than the program. If the fact that we didn't break from the past like you wanted us to bothers you, you really don't understand this University.
So, if you want to go to a game and say We Are Georgetown, it had better Editeding mean something...
I have no idea whether this hire will work out, but I certainly am willing to find out.
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Post by lurkerhoya on Apr 6, 2017 7:46:35 GMT -5
I'd like to see him and Mulmore play Kenner together. They seemed a bit lost together towards the end (who didn't...) when they were on the floor together about who was supposed to be doing what.
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Post by lurkerhoya on Apr 5, 2017 10:35:42 GMT -5
Maybe he will sit down with LJ and convince him to stay? Reports were he was signing with an agent. Why he wouldn't have waited is beyond me, but that horse may be out the barn door...
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Post by lurkerhoya on Apr 5, 2017 10:34:00 GMT -5
Surprised there weren't a few more hard questions particularly re: where the process of hiring assistants was at.
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Post by lurkerhoya on Apr 5, 2017 10:05:46 GMT -5
Nothing for me yet either. Supposedly Pops had them tape over the video camera at the last minute.
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Post by lurkerhoya on Apr 5, 2017 8:52:57 GMT -5
Seeing THAT as the clip being picked up makes me think this was not supposed to be the takeaway of today's media blitz...
Might have been better to just say it might be better for him to learn elsewhere and let it lie.
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Post by lurkerhoya on Apr 5, 2017 8:28:30 GMT -5
I guess it's not under the nepotism clause if the parent just lingers around your job collecting a 6-figure paycheck... This is unfortunate, for the obvious reason you mentioned that PEJr is obviously qualified for some role. It would be a damn shame if, say, in 3-4 years he's caught on with another staff, become a master recruiter and assistant, but unable to be brought on by us because of some silly quirk. That parent won a National championship went to 3 Final Fours. That parent also happens to be the face of Georgetown Basketball. I'm also pretty sur that parent is the reason behind a lot of big donations to the program. Stupid analogy. I don't disagree with you at all. That's the funny thing about setting rules though, you have to follow them... My only point was, this is a stupid rule.
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Post by lurkerhoya on Apr 5, 2017 8:22:49 GMT -5
Frankly, it's a hatchet job from someone posting with the aura of insider knowledge without providing it. The idea that pushed by Thamel and now DFW is a 2017 problem. It doesn't matter what search we run in a 2017 news cycle where every schmo with a twitter account gets to be a reporter. To use what Tom Crean may have leaked on his own as evidence that the search was bumbling is using evidence to fit a narrative, not evidence that the narrative is true. I get that he disagrees with the hire, that's his right. I think it's a crappy position to take that somehow we settled on this as a plan B without anything to back it up other than a Sean Spicer-esque link to other unsubstantiated reporting.
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Post by lurkerhoya on Apr 5, 2017 8:07:21 GMT -5
I guess it's not under the nepotism clause if the parent just lingers around your job collecting a 6-figure paycheck...
This is unfortunate, for the obvious reason you mentioned that PEJr is obviously qualified for some role. It would be a damn shame if, say, in 3-4 years he's caught on with another staff, become a master recruiter and assistant, but unable to be brought on by us because of some silly quirk.
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Post by lurkerhoya on Apr 5, 2017 8:01:41 GMT -5
To be clear, I was not trying to imply that Jay Williams was insinuating that Ewing didn't have the ability to communicate. I also think he identified what the biggest issue you and will have to solve in order to be successful was. The point is that throwing out the "luxurious lifestyle of an NBA assistant coach" as the reason you're worried this particular guy won't be able to succeed is a pretty weak argument for this specific guy. My point about communication is that it is either specifically or obliquely referenced in a lot of the criticism and rationale for him not being able to do the job. That criticism could not be more ill informed in this case IMO. Seriously agree. Every player seems to love his communication, so I have no issues with a guy who the players seem to love and who GMs and Owners may not have...
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Post by lurkerhoya on Apr 5, 2017 7:56:44 GMT -5
1. Not sure how much stock I put in the opinion of a guy who also posts videos on Twitter taken of himself while driving after wrecking his career in a motorcycle accident...
2. It's basically just a contrarian speculation take. Since everyone mostly salutes the hire, I'll get some clicks saying I don't think he'll want to recruit even though I have no basis for saying so, and even though the guy spent 15 years doing the drudge work of coaching instead of what any other HOFer would get, which is a straight HC job at best and maybe a quick stint as an assistant at worst.
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Post by lurkerhoya on Apr 5, 2017 7:35:08 GMT -5
If he doesn't hire the right assistants, he might be on the hot seat. Or if he and the coaches and players don't deliver pizzas to kids that sporadically (if at all) attend games. I considered seeing if CH would publish my alumni perspective post demanding that Ewing and the team come to my one year old's birthday party in three weeks, but thought better of it since it's around exam time.
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Post by lurkerhoya on Apr 4, 2017 10:07:40 GMT -5
I just read that and thought it was the single most embarrassing thing I've read about/regarding Georgetown hoops in 2017. To save everyone some time, basically he thinks Ewing should meet wit him because he organized a petition to get the last coach fired. And players should bring pizza to common rooms. Frankly, I'm ashamed we'll be alumni of the same school.
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Post by lurkerhoya on Apr 4, 2017 9:52:39 GMT -5
Fair or not, I believe Patrick will have the team in the tournament by 2019. Agreed, or at least he should. To the extent next year is a wash, there is till talent on this team. I get the roster depletion issue, but aren't PEs two giant upsides here that he's game-ready and the potential recruiting uptick in the immediate short term? Don't all of these expectations go unrealistically high if the next month brings Waters back and who knows what else for this season? I think the fact of th matter is, if PE is as advertised, he should be taking an under-talented team at least into the top half of our conference (which would mean NCAAs) in his second year.
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Post by lurkerhoya on Apr 4, 2017 9:47:00 GMT -5
1. The Verizon experience could use some work for sure. For students, they need to do a better job getting them there at whatever the cost whether it's just giving away the damn tickets and buses. It will always be a tough lift in recruiting when everyone can functionally see that "playing in an NBA arena" is really just "playing in front of a half full arena with half the seats around the court empty". So I do think there is some connection to the on-court product. Ditto for non-students. Get competitive with pricing, do something with capacity, but make it a hot ticket to the extent it can be.
2. The media availability "conundrum" goes hand in hand with a bigger issue. Freshmen who play haven't earned the right to speak with the media; they should be as an outward-facing arm of the program. If we have a guy who plays, who people want to hear from, write stories about, the bigger issue is what is the program doing to capitalize on that to get functionally compounded interest returns on goodwill and attention. PE is going to have figure out that paradigm for himself as to whether we want to capitalize on coverage and push this brand out there, or continue to be a program that is stuck in the 80s and 90s from a media engagement point of view. Again, I see connection to the on-court product. Social media and engagement is just a reality with 18 year olds in 2017; get on board or GTFO.
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Post by lurkerhoya on Apr 3, 2017 21:11:47 GMT -5
No. TELL HIM (respectfully) to leave the gym during practice and stay out of the locker room at halftime. Absolutely right. Actually, the interview process should have addressed stuff like this head-on. It is easier to ask a tough question of a friend ("Patrick, you know we love you but we have to ask...") than a stranger. Alternatively -- and I know I'm dreaming here -- the president or AD could "man up" and approach Coach Thompson directly and say "We know you want to help. But you have to give Patrick room to be his own man" Exactly. PE is a 55 y/o HOFer in his own right at this point. I don't mean this literally but he's not "daddy's boy getting a job from a mid major that maybe he wasn't even qualified for" (That is NOT how I feel about JT3...) Point is, I think the dynamic is A LOT different for PE that for all we know latitude may have been a condition for him that was already properly addressed. Dare I say... trust the process. Hahahahahahaha
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