Nepotism Clause

[thedragon]

Ewing just said on the Junkies radio show that PE jr. Will not be on staff due to the Gtown nepotism clause. This needs to be rectified. I understand how bringing in a family member who is ill prepared or viewed as hired solely due to the relationship is a negative. But PE jr was already the DOBO. This would be akin to a current Gtown professor having their qualified parent hired as Dean. The professor should not be fired in such an example. I hope they recrify this situation.

[lurkerhoya]

I guess it's not under the nepotism clause if the parent just lingers around your job collecting a 6-figure paycheck...

This is unfortunate, for the obvious reason you mentioned that PEJr is obviously qualified for some role. It would be a damn shame if, say, in 3-4 years he's caught on with another staff, become a master recruiter and assistant, but unable to be brought on by us because of some silly quirk.

[gunny]

I look it at this way, he can go to other programs and learn the Harvard offense and become coach whenever his dad retires. Isn't that the natural progression of things?

[TC]

You guys don't see any issues if Jr. is allowed to stay? You don't see it potentially causing political problems with other members of the staff? You don't think they can find a qualified person that can help Patrick Ewing?

PE Jr. has enough contacts and a father with tremendous pull. If he wants an assistant's job somewhere, I'm sure he can land one. There's a huge benefit to his resume to him going somewhere else and getting experience under another system.

[Big Dog]

Apr 5, 2017 8:03:05 GMT -5 thedragon said:

Ewing just said on the Junkies radio show that PE jr. Will not be on staff due to the Gtown nepotism clause. This needs to be rectified. I understand how bringing in a family member who is ill prepared or viewed as hired solely due to the relationship is a negative. But PE jr was already the DOBO. This would be akin to a current Gtown professor having their qualified parent hired as Dean. The professor should not be fired in such an example. I hope they recrify this situation.

Ewing was on the junkies radio show and this is all you can tell us about what he had to say!?!? What else did they discuss!? What were your impressions of Ewing's initial approach to this?

(Cannot believe that your biggest concern and takeaway from this first interview--isn't the fact an interview was done before the press conference a big deal in-and-of itself for this program?--was about PE Jr.'s job status.)

[LCPolo18]

Apr 5, 2017 8:13:42 GMT -5 TC said:

You guys don't see any issues if Jr. is allowed to stay? You don't see it potentially causing political problems with other members of the staff? You don't think they can find a qualified person that can help Patrick Ewing?

PE Jr. has enough contacts and a father with tremendous pull. If he wants an assistant's job somewhere, I'm sure he can land one. There's a huge benefit to his resume to him going somewhere else and getting experience under another system.

As much as I am a fan of PE Jr, I agree that getting experience at other schools will be a benefit to him. It'll be sad not to see him on the sideline any more, but he could probably become an assistant at a lower level program and get experience recruiting off campus.

This is also a good move politically for Coach Ewing, trying to get ahead of the "nepotism" subset of fans.

[BigmanU]

Apr 5, 2017 8:07:21 GMT -5 lurkerhoya said:

I guess it's not under the nepotism clause if the parent just lingers around your job collecting a 6-figure paycheck...

This is unfortunate, for the obvious reason you mentioned that PEJr is obviously qualified for some role. It would be a damn shame if, say, in 3-4 years he's caught on with another staff, become a master recruiter and assistant, but unable to be brought on by us because of some silly quirk.

That parent won a National championship & went to 3 Final Fours. That parent also happens to be the face of Georgetown Basketball. I'm also pretty sure that parent is the reason behind a lot of big donations to the program. Stupid analogy.

[thedragon]

Apr 5, 2017 8:20:35 GMT -5 Big Dog said:

Apr 5, 2017 8:03:05 GMT -5 thedragon said:

Ewing just said on the Junkies radio show that PE jr. Will not be on staff due to the Gtown nepotism clause. This needs to be rectified. I understand how bringing in a family member who is ill prepared or viewed as hired solely due to the relationship is a negative. But PE jr was already the DOBO. This would be akin to a current Gtown professor having their qualified parent hired as Dean. The professor should not be fired in such an example. I hope they recrify this situation.

Ewing was on the junkies radio show and this is all you can tell us about what he had to say!?!? What else did they discuss!? What were your impressions of Ewing's initial approach to this?

(Cannot believe that your biggest concern and takeaway from this first interview--isn't the fact an interview was done before the press conference a big deal in-and-of itself for this program?--was about PE Jr.'s job status.)

I can let others hash out the rest of the discussion. It was informative and enjoyable. I simply find it laughable that after the last 13 years, we are discussing a nepotism clause. And PE did not sound pleased.

[bostonfan]

I feel bad for Pat Jr if he really wanted to stay, but I have to believe he will have plenty of other opportunities to coach, if that is the path he wants to follow, with the experience he got at Georgetown the last few years and all of his, and his fathers, contacts. Jr seemed to a really good part of the staff while here and I wish him well in whatever he decides he wants to do. Being exposed to other coaches, staffs, programs dnd systems will serve him well if he hopes to be a head coach some day. Nepotism rules are in place for a reason and I don't have a problem with this. It will work out fine for both father and son.

[BigmanU]

In regards to the clause, I get it, but don't agree with it especially because he already had a position on the staff.

Hopefully something else can be worked out to keep him close to the program.

[lurkerhoya]

Apr 5, 2017 8:22:44 GMT -5 BigmanU said:

Apr 5, 2017 8:07:21 GMT -5 lurkerhoya said:

I guess it's not under the nepotism clause if the parent just lingers around your job collecting a 6-figure paycheck...

This is unfortunate, for the obvious reason you mentioned that PEJr is obviously qualified for some role. It would be a damn shame if, say, in 3-4 years he's caught on with another staff, become a master recruiter and assistant, but unable to be brought on by us because of some silly quirk.

That parent won a National championship went to 3 Final Fours. That parent also happens to be the face of Georgetown Basketball. I'm also pretty sur that parent is the reason behind a lot of big donations to the program. Stupid analogy.

I don't disagree with you at all. That's the funny thing about setting rules though, you have to follow them...

My only point was, this is a stupid rule.

[BigmanU]

Apr 5, 2017 8:28:30 GMT -5 lurkerhoya said:

Apr 5, 2017 8:22:44 GMT -5 BigmanU said:

That parent won a National championship went to 3 Final Fours. That parent also happens to be the face of Georgetown Basketball. I'm also pretty sur that parent is the reason behind a lot of big donations to the program. Stupid analogy.

I don't disagree with you at all. That's the funny thing about setting rules though, you have to follow them...

My only point was, this is a stupid rule.

Sorry, I initially thought it was an unnecessary shot at Big Coach.

Different circumstance however. JTII works for the University not the Basketball coach. Lil Pat would work directly under Big Pat.

[iheartdurenbros]

The Junks asked if that was a rule from the NCAA or Georgetown. When Ewing said it was Georgetown, they said "THAT'S A GEORGETOWN RULE!!!' My reaction precisely. The nepotism extends beyond the former coach. But what about the Curry sisters? not to mention personal friends connected to the program.

But, it will be better for PE Jr at this stage of his career to look elsewhere. I just don't see the harm of his staying for another year or two. The players seemed to love him, and they need some continuity.

No mention of Jon Wallace, whom I imagine is not affected by this clause.

[guru]

Invoking a nepotism rule with regards to Georgetown University basketball is either the height of irony or a Simpsons-worthy joke.

[DanMcQ]

Apr 5, 2017 8:20:35 GMT -5 Big Dog said:

Apr 5, 2017 8:03:05 GMT -5 thedragon said:

Ewing just said on the Junkies radio show that PE jr. Will not be on staff due to the Gtown nepotism clause. This needs to be rectified. I understand how bringing in a family member who is ill prepared or viewed as hired solely due to the relationship is a negative. But PE jr was already the DOBO. This would be akin to a current Gtown professor having their qualified parent hired as Dean. The professor should not be fired in such an example. I hope they recrify this situation.

Ewing was on the junkies radio show and this is all you can tell us about what he had to say!?!? What else did they discuss!? What were your impressions of Ewing's initial approach to this?

(Cannot believe that your biggest concern and takeaway from this first interview--isn't the fact an interview was done before the press conference a big deal in-and-of itself for this program?--was about PE Jr.'s job status.)

I just posted board member lastmanstandig's tweets summarizing the appearance in another thread: hoyatalk2.proboards.com/post/730077/thread

The audio should be posted on the station's website later today.

[EtomicB]

Apr 5, 2017 8:24:46 GMT -5 thedragon said:

Apr 5, 2017 8:20:35 GMT -5 Big Dog said:

Ewing was on the junkies radio show and this is all you can tell us about what he had to say!?!? What else did they discuss!? What were your impressions of Ewing's initial approach to this?

(Cannot believe that your biggest concern and takeaway from this first interview--isn't the fact an interview was done before the press conference a big deal in-and-of itself for this program?--was about PE Jr.'s job status.)

I can let others hash out the rest of the discussion. It was informative and enjoyable. I simply find it laughable that after the last 13 years, we are discussing a nepotism clause. And PE did not sound pleased.

The reporters said they were going to start a petition about it and PE said "please do"

[glidehoyas (Inactive)]

[hoyasaxa2003]

Didn't Ronnie Thompson serve as an assistant under his father?

[NCHoya]

Tough break for Ewing Jr, I liked him on the sideline and you would think he would be grandfathered in since he already has the position? However, I agree with those who think he would get a good education learning a different way of coaching the game. Thsi may end up being teh best thing for him. It would be hard for Big Pat to give him good opportunities when there will be veteran guys on the staff while this nepotism issue hangs over the both of them.

[Big Dog]

I like that he's already mixing it up with the administration.