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Post by lurkerhoya on Nov 17, 2009 18:36:20 GMT -5
Ugly win, but I think we'll all take it. You don't win ugly, you just win.
1. Obviously, if they hit FTs, we lose. Disappointing to see them leave the door open and not have us kick it in down the stretch. Lots of sloppy turnovers in the last 6 minutes. Probably a stretch of 3-5 in 7 possessions if I look at the game log.
2. We need a 2nd offense, not a new one. We've seen games like this before, and when we are playing well, the shots don't fall, but we keep running our offense until we do. It got us to a Final Four once upon a time. Much like last year though, now, when the shots don't fall, it's like we just give up on running it.
Part of this is, I think, that we've become a bit predictable. Temple is a solid, well-coached team, much like our 18 BE games will be. You have to have something else to go to in those middle minutes of the game. We have a great Big Man in Monroe, some talented, athletic players in Wright, Clark, Freeman, et al. You've got to put them in a chance to use their abilities when it becomes stagnant.
Why not try out a triangle offense a bit in these preseason games. Monroe goes to the block straight away, Clark or Freeman navigates the strong-side wing, Wright runs point with his sole emphasis being to be something other than option #1 and getting the ball down low to let Greg wreak havoc inside where he CAN create his own shot. Vaughn cleans up glass on the weak side and Freeman/Clark takes the weak-side wing in case they collapse. Picks for the guards give Greg options DOWN LOW. Run this at the start of a possession and not as some fallback plan, and make teams adjust to something new instead of what they've seen for 20 minutes and adjusted their defensive rotations to. This team is too athletic and talented to simply make them run the same offense for 40 minutes.
That was a really poor shooting performance, but frankly I'd like to see us make some new mistakes, rather than what feels like the same old ones we always do.
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Post by lurkerhoya on Nov 17, 2009 11:46:46 GMT -5
Damn, I'm psyched for the real start of the season.
At a minimum, I just need a break from rooting for the Eagles.
EDIT:
Also, Charlottesville Game Watch at Buffalo Wild Wings. UVA Law will be representing for those in the area.
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Post by lurkerhoya on Apr 1, 2009 23:28:52 GMT -5
Ixnay on Attadway eavinglay isscussionday...
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Post by lurkerhoya on Apr 1, 2009 14:35:32 GMT -5
Dajuan was a lock for at least one sloppy TO per game, and some games were downright awfule. And not just a play that didn't work, but a poor-decision, me-first, drive into 3 guys, dribble off his foot, and miss the open man TO. Those are selfish plays, IMO. Plays made by a guy who thinks his ticket out is by making the 20% play of dunking over a guy and drawing a foul instead of making the 80% play and hitting the open man.
It's like they say with average golfers. Hit the shot you can hit 7-8/10 times and take your bogey at worst. Dajuan continually, in my opinon, went for the high-risk, nominal reward plays.
Is that speculation and anecdote? Sure. But that's how Dajuan looked to me, and I think a lot of others, this season.
EDIT: I should clarify that what sucked about those TOs were they always seemed to come in pivotal moments. The kind of moments where hitting that open three would turn the tide, instead of walking downcourt after an offensive foul or running back to defend a fast break.
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Post by lurkerhoya on Mar 31, 2009 9:32:32 GMT -5
General draft question: What are the benefits of signing with an agent early in the process? Why not declare for the draft at first without an agent and feel it out? Do agents greatly help you navigate the whole process? In an ideal world, yes. In the real world, they loan you $25k or whatever you want so you can get a jumpstart on living the life. And I agree with what's been said that if Dajuan is getting into the 1st Round, he made the right choice. Maybe he knows something the rest of us do not....
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Post by lurkerhoya on Mar 10, 2009 16:46:33 GMT -5
You guys thought that end of game play was bad? Imagine what it will be like next year when this team craps itself even more when they realize they don't even have experience in those situations types of situations. The NIT provides competitive games in a tournament environment of win or go home. This season is still a learning experience and either: A) This team can't get better ever, in which case no harm done by losing in the NIT. B) This team is just getting worse, in which case the NIT will only highlight that ? or C) This team still has hope, hope that will only be realized by getting better, i.e. playing some post-season ball. Call me crazy....
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Post by lurkerhoya on Mar 10, 2009 16:40:17 GMT -5
We are not better than St. Johns... think about it And about next year, we aren't going to be that much better. There is something fundamentally wrong with this core group of players. It's not going to change over the next 7 months I don't write this personally to you 1427, but there are a lot of people on here who say this and it's just ridiculous. It's not me being a homer either to think that in 7 months this group of players can improve to be where we all thought they would. You people all realize that for all the crap we've seen this season, we're really 4 losses away from saying this was a decent season. This team certainly has a lot to work on, but let's not forget our "down" year isn't on the blow up the program level some people are making it out to be.
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Post by lurkerhoya on Mar 10, 2009 16:36:05 GMT -5
RDF, been happily reading your posts for years, but this team shouldn't be turning down the NIT.
No matter how bad we may think team was or will be, they are our group for better or worse for the next 2-3 years. They need the experience the same way the Final 4 team we gush about got it. By playing in the NIT.
Is it ideal? No. Is it what anyone expected in October? No. Is it the best we got right now? Yes.
(On an unrelated note, how we lost to SJU twice in one week is beyond me.)
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Post by lurkerhoya on Feb 25, 2009 11:50:31 GMT -5
So what's the huge disparity again? I'm not seeing it. Clearly, I am ignorant. Well, Jeff led us to the NIT. Greg wil simply be playing in it...
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Post by lurkerhoya on Feb 25, 2009 11:41:01 GMT -5
I love Jeff, but Jeff didn't "get us" anywhere.
Jeff and 3 of his soon-to-be-best friends came into a struggling veteran team that was desperate to be coached. Greg's situation is considerably different.
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Post by lurkerhoya on Feb 25, 2009 11:27:50 GMT -5
The Jeff/Greg comparison just doesn't hold water to me. The movement Jeff is claimed to have led was not just him alone. That was a group of guys essentially given the keys to the car as Freshmen. Greg was not expected to lead this team this season. Could he have done more? Probably. But, what will the argument be if Greg is part of a Final 4 team? Unless, you're simply saying that he's not capable of doing that, which is what the undertone seems to be. I disagree.
As to the OP, part of handling the players that we can now recruit is having the system in place to absorb those guys. The program we think we are peers with simply don't typically experience the type of turnover we've had this year. Not saying that this is who we are, but right now we're at the level of major conference teams that live in 4-year cycles where they stumble in the middle of the pack to gain experience for 2 years and then make surprising runs for the last 2 years. We'll only be able to answer this question when the cupboard isn't bare.
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Post by lurkerhoya on Feb 24, 2009 23:39:43 GMT -5
Remember hearing annoying Eagles fans (like me) at Rhino's singing 'Fly, Eagles, Fly' after touchdowns?
To me that's the 'We Are Georgetown' chant. Just my personal preference that we save it for touchdowns, so to speak.
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Post by lurkerhoya on Feb 23, 2009 21:20:38 GMT -5
Truth be told, right now I don't see much difference in talent and flaws between this team and JT3's first team that played its way into the NIT. As we know, that same group went to a Final 4 running this same offense these guys are. Someday soon we'll have a program that isn't decimated by the turnover in personnel that requires starting from scratch every 4 years in terms of running this offense.
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Post by lurkerhoya on Feb 23, 2009 21:09:32 GMT -5
We've gone over everything ad nauseum about this team's faults.
3 games left, BET and probably NIT. Let's use it to get better. The NIT may not be NCAAs, but the talent is good, the games are close, and it's a great chance for this group to learn how to close the one-and-done games we know are coming in the coming years.
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Post by lurkerhoya on Feb 23, 2009 21:05:12 GMT -5
UNC isn't good because they run more than the other team, they're good because they run better than the other team.
EDIT: Ken Pomeroy FTW!
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Post by lurkerhoya on Feb 23, 2009 21:02:28 GMT -5
I don't know what coming "dangerously close to a triple-double" means.
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Post by lurkerhoya on Feb 23, 2009 21:00:46 GMT -5
I always the love the useless banter that fills the last 2 minutes of blowouts...
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Post by lurkerhoya on Feb 23, 2009 20:57:49 GMT -5
Crud, we're down 11, not 10.
Guess we'll miss OT and lose by one.
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Post by lurkerhoya on Feb 23, 2009 20:57:00 GMT -5
It's not his fault they make him call games with a Harvard lawyer. WHou wouldn't sound like a moron next to a guy like that.
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Post by lurkerhoya on Feb 23, 2009 20:52:55 GMT -5
Gee, where have we been in this situation before?
See you in OT, gents.
EDIT: I'm just messing around. I should have followed with "The early Georgetown teams were very successful winning 23-18 games." It's just the delirium of the season ending that brings out the sarcasm.
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