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Post by 3xhoya on Mar 12, 2023 13:57:19 GMT -5
Thompson worship gave us Ewing. Big John’s teams were great for a decade, ending 34 years ago. After ‘89, we had a blip with Iverson. Basta!!!!! My point is people talking about restoring GU, restoring it to what--thompson level dominance. The last I checked a Thompson led GU to a final four. If lil Ricky gets the job, at his presser he's gonna pay hommage to Thompson..Cooley is a Thompson fan boy. Every black coach will tell you Thompson influenced them. Whether y'all like it or not, Thompson has more cultural significance than any coach in this search. Now good luck running from the Thompson legacy... Nobody is saying to run away from the Thompson legacy. A new coach can come in run a modern program while acknowledging the past. What we don’t want is for the program to continue to operate like it’s the 1980’s. Also, most of us cite the Ronny problem as he is only there because of his last name and is a detriment to the program .
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Post by 3xhoya on Mar 12, 2023 13:20:36 GMT -5
One thing I feel that Cooley may do better than Pitino is getting students and fans in general to Cap One. He will go knock on dorm rooms to get kids to these games. The increase in energy/attendance at both Fairfield and PC during his runs is notable. Cooley will be fantastic at promoting community. Don’t sell Pitino shirt on this, Iona games sell out and resale tickets can go as much as $200
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Post by 3xhoya on Mar 12, 2023 7:51:39 GMT -5
Ashanti! But every good thing you wrote about Jonathan has nothing to do with coaching XD This is where the Pitino hire comes in. Someone like Wallace could join Pitino on his staff and be groomed for 5 years to be the next coach. They could learn from one of the best coaches of a generation.
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Post by 3xhoya on Mar 12, 2023 0:06:13 GMT -5
Hiring Cooley/Shrewberry will make sure to keep the Thompsons involved and paycheck flowing from the university to Ronny and other Thompsons -that wont most likely fly under Pitno though and hence he is most likely not being considered. With that said, someone should really conduct some kind of investigation on the relationship between JDG and the Thompson clan. Did the Thompson clan help with JDG getting the job when he wasnt going to? Hidden some kinda scandal for him that we dont know about? Or do the Thompsons have something on JDG that he cant refuse their orders even after Pops had passed away? It has to be more than just JDG living in the shadow of Thompsons or having some kinda fetish - i suspect there is something more concrete/fishy between them that may be worth of a movie script I think it’s important to remember that DeGioia is a Georgetown lifer—he knows nothing else. He’s had a supervisory role over the program to some extent for 40 years. Just like a lot of people like to harken back to 1985, to some extent DeGioia does the same thing. DeGioia likely doesn’t even know that what he’s doing makes no sense because in his world, the “Georgetown” way would never involve someone like Pitino. While I am massively disappointed by this, I’m not surprised. I completely agree with you. The thing is when it comes to hiring a new coach it is hard to fall back on "the Georgetown way." Jack has never had to go through the process without being told who would be the next coach. He is just as inexperienced at this as we are. However, he lives in a an echo chamber of his own thoughts and probably a few elite academics and therefore thinks he knows what he is doing. Not recognizing your own weaknesses is one of the most dangerous things you can do and the result is a once proud program sunken to depths I never thought possible
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Post by 3xhoya on Mar 11, 2023 17:10:06 GMT -5
I honestly don’t get why people are angry / surprised we aren’t going after Pitino. Prior to this year no one on this board would have advocated for it and we all knew it would never be a guy JD would hire. Then because Casual began his tweetstorm people believed it was a possibility. Not sure anything really ever changed. I have been hoping we would reach out to Pitino since midway through the winless season. Seeing what he has done at Iona is remarkable. Not even speaking with him, interviewing him and laying out his concerns speaks volumes as to Jack's "leadership."
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Post by 3xhoya on Mar 11, 2023 15:48:28 GMT -5
I actually believe this completely. Jack is not a person of action at all. He was probably forced a bit to even speak with Pitino. On top of that I really believe that Jack has no idea how competitive this landscape is and how quickly other schools will move. He is in way over his head and has no business being involved at all.
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Post by 3xhoya on Mar 11, 2023 13:13:29 GMT -5
The ability to play for a hall of fame coach in Rick Pitino is a start. And if Pitino is at St. John's (especially if GU is, as Goodman is now reporting, not even considering him)? You can still sell the location, facilities and there is still a brand name. You lose out on the major recruiting pitch of playing for Pitino obviously which would be a very big draw.
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Post by 3xhoya on Mar 11, 2023 12:31:43 GMT -5
You can turn around college programs much faster these days due to transfer rule changes. Yes...but what would make them choose Georgetown? The ability to play for a hall of fame coach in Rick Pitino is a start.
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Post by 3xhoya on Mar 11, 2023 11:35:27 GMT -5
Out of curiosity...I just used to search tool to look up the past 10 years of the word "Pitino" on this board...and BOY are there some gems lol. What a difference 10 years and Patrick Ewing makes...because looking at some of these posts you'd think hell would have to freeze over before Georgetown fans desired Rick Pitino lol. Can you really blame JDG for having a holier than thou stance when it seems like the fan base had one too up until the Patrick Ewing and NIL era? You can't compare then to now. Over those years Pitino has had his name cleared by the NCAA, moved to Greece to continue coaching and is now coaching at another Catholic institution. Since arriving at Iona he has had no scandals. I live in Westchester and he has been fantastic for the Iona community which I have witnessed first hand as both of my parents are alumni. He has worked to restore his image and this is why there has been a change of heart from many on this board. All that being said Jack will screw this up because he has to satisfy his own ego.
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Post by 3xhoya on Mar 10, 2023 6:51:59 GMT -5
If we don’t make a strong push for Pitino we are not a serious program. Every school with a vacancy will be contacting him, are we going to be the only ones to turn our noses up? The answer is likely yes.
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Post by 3xhoya on Mar 9, 2023 22:54:39 GMT -5
There’s people who don’t want Pitino no where near Georgetown Basketball program. I believe Jack and Reed don’t want that baggage to enter Thompson Center. Pitino with his win at any cost mentality and huge amount of baggage doesn't belong at Georgetown. We just fired a coach that tried to strip a scholarship from the one guy who decided to stick with the team and school and instead opted to become a manager on the team in order to get a degree. Our APR has us set up to be sanctioned by the NCAA. I am so sick of all this holier than thou Georgetown BS.
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Post by 3xhoya on Mar 2, 2023 18:17:17 GMT -5
You’re talking about 50+ years ago. Everything - literally, everything - surrounding the upcoming hire is different than it was a half century ago. Harkening back to the past to guide the way forward is what has gotten us into this miserable predicament. You completely missed the point of my post. As I say upfront I think Pitino is our best chance of returning the program to prominence. But I was trying to point out that GU is probably looking at more than just pure coaching ability from the person it selects. Considering the University's efforts to maintain its reputation as an "elite" academic institution, and looking at its efforts over the past 40 years to both connect with the DC black community and project itself as an inclusive and diverse institution I feel certain that the University would never consider men like Pitino and Brey and just might think "outside the box", like they did 48 years ago, and approach Dawn Staley. I agree that the jury is out on whether she would actually be a successful D1 mens basketball coach but I'm trying to make the point that what many of the posters are looking for in a new coach is probably not what DeGoia and the Board may be looking for. At the end of the day the greater DC community will only connect with the University if we win. It doesn’t matter as much who the coach is. Nobody is jumping on board 2 wins and 30 plus losses.
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Post by 3xhoya on Mar 2, 2023 17:55:03 GMT -5
Pat is not good at any aspect of coaching. Absolutely awful. It starts higher up, Jack is not good at any aspect of leadership. The Board of Directors should relieve him of his duties shortly after he terminated Ewing. He should own this mess then walk off campus with Pat and Ronnie.
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Post by 3xhoya on Feb 22, 2023 22:46:51 GMT -5
Classic Georgetown here. We win this game, St John’s parts with Anderson and wins the Pitino sweepstakes.
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Post by 3xhoya on Feb 22, 2023 21:53:30 GMT -5
Eventually gonna need someone like Lappas to state the obvious, that Patrick is over his head and it’s hurting the kids and the conference. This is the sad state of the media. Just state objective truths. The record speaks for itself.
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Post by 3xhoya on Feb 22, 2023 21:40:49 GMT -5
Does Jack watch this game and think he has made wise decisions? Or is he so aloof he has no idea what’s going on? For his sake I hope the latter.
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Post by 3xhoya on Feb 22, 2023 21:30:29 GMT -5
That's two time outs called at media time out breaks. Where are the assistant(s) watching the clock? Please stop trying to pretend we have a high major staff.
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Post by 3xhoya on Feb 22, 2023 21:29:14 GMT -5
Brandon Murray - lol. Thanks for your year at Georgetown, great case study in how to ruin a potential pro career. Any other coach places him on the bench and he doesn’t see any time again. Sick of all that is going on with this program.
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Post by 3xhoya on Feb 17, 2023 17:15:17 GMT -5
1. Ewing out 2. Ronny IN 3. James Jones hired
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Post by 3xhoya on Feb 2, 2023 10:34:18 GMT -5
What sucks is that it must be miserable for the kids that have to go through the motions at practice every day with a lame duck coach that does not know what he is doing. The Administration might think that it is in the University's and Patrick Ewing's best interest to retain him until the end of the season, but what about the kids that actually attend the University and put on a Georgetown jersey? Do we really think it is in their best interest to finish out the next 35 days with the current coach and "Chief of Staff" Ronny? This is my opinion but it is the way I have viewed the University for many years now….the students are an annoyance to the Administration. They are more concerned with their image and prestige than any students actually benefiting.
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