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Post by kbones17 on Apr 4, 2018 14:10:22 GMT -5
It will be interesting to track Danny Hurley/UConn over the next few years in comparison to our program. Hurley was mentioned many times on this board as a viable candidate last year, and his willingness to jump to UConn shows he likely would have been interested in us as well. He just hired the Minnesota assistant that is tapped into NYC/NJ AAU much like many on this board had hoped that PE would (in DMV), and is apparently looking at someone to recruit DMV for his last assistant coach hire.
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Post by kbones17 on Apr 4, 2018 12:22:58 GMT -5
I think you're right in a literal sense (that a team can have a big man who plays in the low post and win), but I think it's more a matter of whether that strategy makes sense in the modern game. Is a team better positioned when all 5 players can shoot from anywhere, or when one or 2 of your players can only score from the low post? It's almost certainly the former. If you gave me Roy Hibbert, sure, I think that team could succeed because he was a really, really, good offensive player, AND he defended well too. Instead, if you look at guys like Hayes or Hopkins, they were bigger liabilities because were not that good post players and they couldn't shoot at all, either. Govan is a much more well rounded player because he can score from anywhere on the court - it's his defense that really is the bigger thing keeping him from getting to the next level. I would note, however, that Govan actually struggled the most this season when he was parked in the post - when Ewing began bringing him out to the three point line and getting him in position for more layups, his offense improved markedly in the latter half of the Big East. The biggest reason NOT to feature a post player is that even the best post players are usually less efficient in the post than guards and players who shoot threes. I seem to remember someone on Casual did an article where it showed that Marcus Derrickson was one of the most efficient post players, and he still was scoring less than a point per possession (which is not good). Post play can be useful in giving a different look from time to time, or taking advantage of some mismatches (especially against really bad teams), but it should not be a major component of a modern offense. You want balance. You don't want to be all perimeter oriented,and you don't don't want to be all post play. If you relay only on outside shooting, you are going to go cold from outside eventually. Then you are pretty much out of luck (no pun) If you rely only on the post, you will be like us this year with Govan and Marcus. Inside-outside game is the best. Nova's "bigs" can score in the paint when necessary. Nova can also shoot lights out from 3. And the times they don't, they have other areas, like defense, they can make up for it. They don't really have a go-to-guy in that if their main guy struggles, they fall apart as we saw in the championship game. In other words, Nova can beat you in different ways. Good balance. The Big Man is still relevant today. Ironically, Ewing would be perfect in today's era. His ability to run the floor and move like a 6'5 wing player at 7'0" tall was rare. Wouldn't even have to shoot 3's. Just defend and get his touches inside. Agree with this. You need balance, and elite teams (like Nova) have it. That said, it isn’t a 50/50 balance; game is heavily weighted towards the perimeter game (3’s and off the dribble). I think you need at least 3-4 players on the court at all times that can play from outside in. Defensively you also need athletes with high motor to keep that same balance between offense/defense. That said, again, the game is weighted offensively so it’s not a 50/50 balance between offensive and defensive skills. You can be a good team that is all perimeter offense and no defense in this day and age (think Creighton) but to be elite you need to have that balance.
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Post by kbones17 on Apr 3, 2018 21:57:40 GMT -5
Agreed, if the rumors are true about Yurt7 we really need that last scholarship to be a guard eligible immediately.
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Post by kbones17 on Apr 2, 2018 18:11:33 GMT -5
Darn, I like him. Doesn’t sound like it will be us.
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Post by kbones17 on Apr 2, 2018 14:27:04 GMT -5
Becareful what you wish for... This crazy rule of allowing a player a 1 time immediate eligibility transfer as a reward for good grades is absolutely ridiculous and will lead to even more chaos in college basketball. No one seems to take into account the unintended consequences. Your going to start seeing players transfer when the coach gets tough with them or brings in competition at their position. For example what if Govan's not ecstatic that Yurt7 could eat into his minutes during his senior year and decides to transfer. The only transfers that should be given immediate availability are grads and programs who have had a coaching change. The only amendment In that situation is the players should not be able to follow their coaches. Outside of that the rest of these transfer rules are absolutely ridiculous... We’ve had this discussion in other threads, but I think this would be a terrible rule and create mass chaos. And one point I don’t think gets mentioned enough is that it would also be bad for a large portion of players. Essentially right now the players and the coaches are disincentivized from transferring/pursuing transfers due to the one year waiting period. You take that away and cutthroat coaches will pushing out even more of their role players/bench players or even some solid contributors for the shiny new object on someone else team. Many HS kids will be promised the world by a coach and then pushed out the next year, and I predict a lot of guys will end up not getting their degree because of this. Yes coaches can technically do this now (and it happens to some degree) but it is curtailed becaused they end having to expend an empty scholarship year and you don’t get the immediate gratification on the upcoming season’s team which is what coaches are focused on. Take that away and suddenly it’s open season on pushing out those guys out, and it further hurts a school like Gtown that generally tries to do right by anyone that joins the family. And another odd twist is that if students with only 3.0 grade average are eligible for this, the university is now incentivized to have players not making that average so that they can’t transfer without a waiting period which is a massive conflict of interest.
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Post by kbones17 on Apr 2, 2018 14:07:18 GMT -5
Becareful what you wish for... This crazy rule of allowing a player a 1 time immediate eligibility transfer as a reward for good grades is absolutely ridiculous and will lead to even more chaos in college basketball. No one seems to take into account the unintended consequences. Your going to start seeing players transfer when the coach gets tough with them or brings in competition at their position. For example what if Govan's not ecstatic that Yurt7 could eat into his minutes during his senior year and decides to transfer. The only transfers that should be given immediate availability are grads and programs who have had a coaching change. The only amendment In that situation is the players should not be able to follow their coaches. Outside of that the rest of these transfer rules are absolutely ridiculous... We’ve had this discussion in other threads, but I think this would be a terrible rule and create mass chaos. And one point I don’t think gets mentioned enough is that it would also be bad for a large portion of players. Essentially right now the players and the coaches are disincentivized from transferring/pursuing transfers due to the one year waiting period. You take that away and cutthroat coaches will pushing out even more of their role players/bench players or even some solid contributors for the shiny new object on someone else team. Many HS kids will be promised the world by a coach and then pushed out the next year, and I predict a lot of guys will end up not getting their degree because of this. Yes coaches can technically do this now (and it happens to some degree) but it is curtailed becaused they end having to expend an empty scholarship year and you don’t get the immediate gratification on the upcoming season’s team which is what coaches are focused on. Take that away and suddenly it’s open season on pushing out those guys out, and it further hurts a school like Gtown that generally tries to do right by anyone that joins the family.
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Post by kbones17 on Apr 1, 2018 15:41:47 GMT -5
Would definitely be an interesting turn. Player who would be All-BE level but also I’d be scared that we’d never actually get him in uniform for a game based on his pro prospects (here or abroad).
He tested the NBA waters after his mediocre freshman year, so he’s clearly ready to head off as soon as he can. Tough one. High ceiling, high risk.
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Post by kbones17 on Apr 1, 2018 0:44:35 GMT -5
Should be an interesting final. If Nova isn't hitting from 3, they look very beatable. They don't, however, often have an off night. Talented squad. Well coached. I expect them to win by double digits if they play like they usually do. I guess I'm supposed to be happy about that but I can't find it in me to be so. Wright's teams in the post season over the past few seasons carry the high level of play over into tournament time and perform up to their capabilities in big games. Let me add that Spellman is almost a perfect big for the current NBA. Long and bouncy who can get out and guard on switches. Very athletic, can run the court, can finish on the break and can throw it down in the paint. And most of all can score the three-ball or on a close in slam or putback. The only thing he may lack is a better passing game. However his post up game and midrange game is almost non-existent, but, unfortunately those areas don't matter as much for bigs in the modern NBA. I wonder if this run means that Spellman and maybe even Paschall consider a jump to NBA after the season. Assuming that Brunson and Bridges are gone.
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Post by kbones17 on Mar 30, 2018 17:07:46 GMT -5
Nice catch! That definitely sounds like a D1 college transfer. A non-qualifier you wouldn't automatically assume would have to sit out - there's all sorts of appeals and summer courses and what not. Definitely does not sound like Akinjo or Devonish because why would they have to sit out a year? How intriguing, a mystery recruit? We need some hoyatalkers to stake out the Thompson center.
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Post by kbones17 on Mar 30, 2018 11:48:08 GMT -5
Ron Bailey with some info on Devonish playing pickup with the team. And an interview talking about it. No offer yet, but contact with Coach Kirby.
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Post by kbones17 on Mar 30, 2018 11:14:28 GMT -5
This quote from that article is really key: I know it's sort of common sense, but when you put 5 guys out on the court that can shoot and pass well, things become so much easier. Our 2007 team really was similar (with one exception, Hibbert) in that the team featured a lot of guys who could score the ball, pass well, etc. Hibbert is the exception because he doesn't fit the modern mold of being able to shoot well from three, but he defended well and was massively efficient from two, which was incredibly effective. I actually think this is one way in which JT3 had the concept right but failed to execute. JT3 often talked about position-less basketball, etc. - in words not much different from what Wright says in that article. The difference is that, in practice, JT3 never achieved that goal beyond the 2007-2008 era team, plus I do think JT3 was wedded to the old-fashioned role of a center or big. That old fashioned approach worked when you had a guy as hugely talented as Hibbert, but not when you downgraded to guys like Hopkins or Hayes. The approach discussed in that article has a lot of similarities to the way in which NBA teams play now, as well. The old fashioned bigs who post up and can't otherwise shoot are slowly becoming relics (if this was 1990, Hibbert would still be playing) in the NBA, too. It's the modern game, and Ewing is clearly familiar with it, so I fully expect us to follow this approach. The key point to me is that all five players on Nova can dribble and shoot. Ballhandling is key and allows these players pressure the defense into committing one way or another before shooting or passing. They don’t rely on two guys to initiate offense; they all can. We have a long way to go to improve this aspect of our game. From the recruits PE has brought in, I’m still seeing guys who may have trouble moving with the basketball. We’ll see how it shakes out, but in my book we need to really be emphasizing players with guard skills at all positions.
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Post by kbones17 on Mar 28, 2018 22:22:39 GMT -5
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Post by kbones17 on Mar 28, 2018 21:45:15 GMT -5
The further we go into the spring without a PG added to the squad the more I would consider Devonish. I haven’t seen enough of him to know if he can play at the BE level, but I get Glides point that there are local unsigned guys that are probably underrecruited. Devonish seems like a good player.
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Post by kbones17 on Mar 27, 2018 21:47:20 GMT -5
In home visits from Cal Berkeley and Tennessee today.
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Post by kbones17 on Mar 27, 2018 0:02:24 GMT -5
Jeff Goodman @goodmanespn Fordham’s Joseph Chartouny has received his release and is looking to transfer for his final season, sources told ESPN. Grad transfer, A-10 ROY who averaged in double-figures all three seasons at Fordham. Averaged 12 pts, 5.5 rebounds and 4.5 assists in the A-10. Could be a solid one-year pickup if the 2018 recruits we're going after don't materialize. This guy is interesting. 3 year starter at Fordham, from Canada. Averaged 12, 5, 5 and 3.3 steals per game. Doesn’t appear to be a very good shooter, but a guard who can distribute and play defense would be a great addition. Worth a look.
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Post by kbones17 on Mar 26, 2018 1:03:03 GMT -5
This guy looks interesting. From Bahamas and doesn’t seem to be ranked anywhere. Doing a prep year in Canada. Looks to be a shooting guard with some solid tools and moves.
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Post by kbones17 on Mar 25, 2018 21:42:30 GMT -5
Interesting list. Oh well, next.
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Post by kbones17 on Mar 24, 2018 22:23:08 GMT -5
There have been some real rock fights in this tournament.
But it shows how much we need to improve on the defensive side of the ball. Good teams need to be able to win in multiple ways to advance in the tourney. Need to get some tenacious defenders moving forward.
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Post by kbones17 on Mar 23, 2018 0:32:36 GMT -5
Blair's efficiency was highest of the guards also because he turned it over a lot less than the others. And as you pointed out, he did get a fair share of free throws - which does affect efficiency, as it should - if you get FTs and make them those are points that you are contributing. Obviously, shooting is important too, but if you get a ton of free throws and make them at an excellent rate, that's hugely helpful. Oh I agree. I have always advocated him as being a 6th man that if he is on should play 25 mins if he bricks send him to the bench. I agree with Blair as an instant offense guy off the bench when he’s hitting. Here’s the offensive stats: Blair (21.5 mpg) FG: 2.7/8.1 (33%) 2FG: 1.1/3.1 (35%) 3FG: 1.6/5.1 (32%) FT: 2/2.3 (86%) 2.2 reb 1.7 assists / 1.5 to Mosely (23.2 mpg) FG: 2.3/4.8 (49%) 2FG: 1.9/3.6 (52%) 3FG: .5/1.2 (39%) FT: 1.5/2.2 (68%) 2.8 reb 2.9 assists / 2 to Which is the more efficient offensive player? I guess I don’t fully understand the offensive efficiency metric. I see Mosely shooting higher percentages from the field and having a higher assist to turnover ratio. Blair took (and missed) a lot of threes, and scored 16 more points from the free throw line over the course of the season. I don’t see Blair as the vastly more “efficient” offensive player, and of course this doesn’t take into account that I think Mosely is a much better defensive player. Don’t take this as bashing Blair, because I think he filled a role that needed to be filled this year. And I think he can/will be a valuable piece if he can raise his 3 pt percentage up near 40%.
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Post by kbones17 on Mar 22, 2018 16:10:02 GMT -5
Agree with this. Jagan will improve, and i think he will be a key contributor the next two years. Using him as a primary ball handler/playmaker is not using his abilities to their fullest. Beating a dead horse here, but slot in a productive PG and Jagan will slot into his more natural role of a defense/hustle/take it the hoop/occasional three guy, averaging 10/4/2.5 Will take the under on Jagan averaging 10 ppg his junior or senior years. He's a nice 8th-10th guy in the rotation but if he's averaging 10 points or more, that means we haven't upgraded the roster very much by 2019-2020. There's no way he's averaging 10 ppg next year, assuming Govan and Derrickson are back - just not enough shots to go around between those 2 and Pickett/Blair. We're not going to have 5 double digit scorers. I personally don’t think Blair is guaranteed to score in double digits next year, or any year. I can see scenarios where his PT reduces as our backcourt talent (hopefully) increases. My take is that Jagan is a more complete player, and with better perimeter talent around him (mac/unknown PG/CG), his defense and ability on the fast break will keep him on the floor. Plus, I can see us sometimes going to “pressing” lineup with Jagan/Leblanc (etc) that is right up his alley.
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