tashoya
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Post by tashoya on Mar 15, 2014 22:27:46 GMT -5
The ACC will never replicate this atmosphere, even with a move to Brooklyn. Nothing compares to Friday and Saturday nights at the Garden with the very much alive Big East. What's worse for the Cuse fans is that if they get eliminated early they are stranded in Greensboro, NC for the rest of the weekend. At least in New York, you get eliminated early it's still New York and there are plenty of things to do. Do they have poutine and Canadian bacon in NC?
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MassHoya
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Post by MassHoya on Mar 16, 2014 8:31:48 GMT -5
Being stranded in Greensboro beats the best day ever in Syracuse.
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IDenj
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Post by IDenj on Mar 16, 2014 10:05:00 GMT -5
So are we chalking this up as our best victory this season?
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Post by grokamok on Mar 17, 2014 10:34:03 GMT -5
We reserve the right to ensure that the ACC alumni base in NYC not be unfairly persecuted by conferences with a larger, more proximate northeast footprint. If you look at it clearly, four of the conference's members are close to an equal commute from NYC, and, though one of those will be leaving and the bulk of the conference is farther away, in recent decades many alumni from these schools have settled in the region. One cannot deny the historical ties of the NYC area, as it played host to many of the conference's most important pre- and post-season moments, and who can forget that one of the conference's newest members is "New York's team"?
The claims of rival conferences are based on legal technicalities -- one of which we wholeheartedly supported at the time of its inception and reiterated when one of these conferences took action against its own basketball interests on our behalf by expanding to include additional football schools to provide us with content; however, this arrangement has been nullified, and clearly should have no continuing validity. In any case, the larger NYC sports fanbase associated with our network clearly is yearning for realignment, and that should include the key sports resources in the area.
We therefore support a referendum on the subject to take place in two weeks; polling stations will be at the NYC-area ACC alumni clubhouses and at our West End Avenue satellite office. As a precaution against anticipated interference by rival sports networks and in order to protect the legitimate rights of the ACC fanbase, we will send a large number of reporters to observe and advise the populace, and we will dedicate round-the-clock coverage to the known Truth about the matter across our stations, including both present developments and historic insights.
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Post by njhoya78 on Mar 25, 2014 9:13:13 GMT -5
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Post by DFW HOYA on Mar 26, 2014 12:03:11 GMT -5
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 26, 2014 15:15:10 GMT -5
I may have missed it, but did we ever get final attendance figures for the BET, to compare with prior years?
There are still whispers here in upstate New York that the BET - MSG contract is not airtight, that the ACC could worm its way in if its Barclay's numbers in 2017-2018 blow away the BET numbers, even that MSG would consider requiring the Big East to play its tourney a week earlier to accommodate the ACC or even the B1G with Rutgers. I know it is all typical South Canada University blustering, but just curious what the first year numbers showed.
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Post by 757hoyafan on Mar 26, 2014 15:23:56 GMT -5
I may have missed it, but did we ever get final attendance figures for the BET, to compare with prior years? There are still whispers here in upstate New York that the BET - MSG contract is not airtight, that the ACC could worm its way in if its Barclay's numbers in 2017-2018 blow away the BET numbers, even that MSG would consider requiring the Big East to play its tourney a week earlier to accommodate the ACC or even the B1G with Rutgers. I know it is all typical South Canada University blustering, but just curious what the first year numbers showed. No clue, but I can tell you more eyes viewed the Big East finals compared to the Pac 10's..
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 26, 2014 16:07:10 GMT -5
After doing some searching - and if we can trust the ESPN scores listings, the semis and finals last year both drew 20,057(sold out I presume), while this year there were 15,580 for the semis, 15,290 for the finals. Of course Syracuse played both nights last year, but we need to do better next year.
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Post by johnnysnowplow on Mar 26, 2014 16:23:50 GMT -5
After doing some searching - and if we can trust the ESPN scores listings, the semis and finals last year both drew 20,057(sold out I presume), while this year there were 15,580 for the semis, 15,290 for the finals. Of course Syracuse played both nights last year, but we need to do better next year. I think given the matchups, 15k+ is a decent turnout. We (and MSG) couldn't realistically expect Creighton, Seton Hall, Xavier, and Providence to draw as many fans as Georgetown, Louisville, Syracuse, and Notre Dame. Given the disparity in size and location of the respective fanbases, I think drawing 75% of the attendance of 2013 is pretty good. But I obviously have no idea what MSG/Big East were expecting when they did their projections. If we can get back on track next year and Villanova stays strong, I think we'll see that number increase. A final 4 of Georgetown, Villanova, and say St. John's and Providence would draw pretty well I would think.
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Post by chep3 on Mar 26, 2014 17:01:43 GMT -5
We just need to play Nova or SJU in the final next year. That'd be an easy sell out.
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njhoya78
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Post by njhoya78 on Mar 26, 2014 17:22:16 GMT -5
I may have missed it, but did we ever get final attendance figures for the BET, to compare with prior years? There are still whispers here in upstate New York that the BET - MSG contract is not airtight, that the ACC could worm its way in if its Barclay's numbers in 2017-2018 blow away the BET numbers, even that MSG would consider requiring the Big East to play its tourney a week earlier to accommodate the ACC or even the B1G with Rutgers. I know it is all typical South Canada University blustering, but just curious what the first year numbers showed. Having just finished their first ACC tournament outside of their comfort zone (i.e., the Garden) in over thirty years, Orange Nation is desperate to find a way to make their new playmates in the sandbox travel northward. If you read the Syracuse board during the ACC tourney (and especially after their early departure), they miss New York. Badly. They will blather and throw out all sorts of rumors to make themselves feel better about what is quickly becoming buyer's remorse.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2014 10:20:31 GMT -5
Bryan Armen Graham @bryanagraham 17h Whistleblower says UNC put athletes in classes that never met and required only one final paper. This one got an A-. /photo/1
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Mar 27, 2014 11:56:38 GMT -5
Xavier had the most unimpressive draw at MSG and I was surprised by that. They need to step it up. Creighton more then represented and Butler was hard to tell.
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Post by vamosalaplaya on Mar 27, 2014 16:37:32 GMT -5
The BE contract at MSG is air tight. Believe it, or it would have been broken already.
The BE is going to get buried by the hype at the Barclay's Center, if nothing else just by the ESPN coverage and the novelty of the ACC coming to town. Then there is the likelihood the ACC will show up with a big field that will insure a high wattage semifinal. Barclay's is a great arena to watch hoops in.
I keep wondering whether the BE should add more teams based on the learnings from this year's tournament.
Candidates to add aren't obvious. But 12 teams in a conference will insure 4-5 bids regularly; 10 teams doesn't.
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Post by gunny on Mar 27, 2014 17:02:27 GMT -5
Unfortunately, I do agree with you that the Big East is going to have to add 2 teams. The attendance at the Big East Tournament along with getting 4-5 teams in regularly is going to dictate that. However, who? There are no GREAT candidates out there in my opinion who meet the basketball only criteria. Just wish Memphis and Connecticut would give up football, but that is not happening. The AAC is going to get worse next year. They lose Louisville and Rutgers (no big deal with Rutgers), but add East Carolina, Tulsa and Tulane. That is a big net negative. You are looking at 3 good basketball schools in Connecticut, Memphis, and Cincinnati. SMU is on the way up with Brown as coach, but how long will it last when he is gone. Temple has struggled recently. The rest of the teams are below average at best.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Mar 27, 2014 17:13:15 GMT -5
Unfortunately, I do agree with you that the Big East is going to have to add 2 teams. The attendance at the Big East Tournament along with getting 4-5 teams in regularly is going to dictate that. However, who? There are no GREAT candidates out there in my opinion who meet the basketball only criteria. Just wish Memphis and Connecticut would give up football, but that is not happening. The AAC is going to get worse next year. They lose Louisville and Rutgers (no big deal with Rutgers), but add East Carolina, Tulsa and Tulane. That is a big net negative. You are looking at 3 good basketball schools in Connecticut, Memphis, and Cincinnati. SMU is on the way up with Brown as coach, but how long will it last when he is gone. Temple has struggled recently. The rest of the teams are below average at best. Attendance at the Big East was great this year, esp. considering St. John's, Georgetown, and Villanova were all out early. But attendance won't drive this decision, nor will the Garden. It's Fox who will help make that call. Fox may not want the Catholic School of the Week if another add brings in more viewers.
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Post by boxout05 on Mar 27, 2014 17:56:19 GMT -5
Ignoring athletes joining unions for a moment: 1.) I'd think Cincy and UConn are 1 and 1a for next round of expansion, depending on who needs teams and who has veto power. UCF's BCS victory and their huge student body prolly earned them some points too. If/when those two bolt though, AAC basketball is going to be pretty lousy. 2.) I welcome expansion more than most, I just hope Fox considers basketball success to be the primary driver of viewership. SLU/VCU/Dayton/WSU/Memphis/UConn are all appealing...whoever is going to win the most. Will be very hard to swallow if Fox wants to take Missouri Valley State. 3.) Francesa poked some fun at Barclays and the ACC in his opening monologue this afternoon. He said the ACC going to Brooklyn is exciting because there are a lot of sexy teams, including some that 'claim to be from the area', but announcing the deal the day before the Sweet 16 kicks off at MSG for the first time in 50 years was dopey. That buzz knocks Barclays off the front and back pages and kudos to MSG for sticking with the Big East.
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Post by hoya95 on May 13, 2014 10:16:43 GMT -5
Well, they are going to go head to head with the Big East tournament on TV now as well.
Pack Pride@packpride·6m The ACC semis at 7pm & 9pm ET on Friday. Championship game will be Saturday night at 830pm
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Post by FrazierFanatic on May 13, 2014 13:23:28 GMT -5
Well, they are going to go head to head with the Big East tournament on TV now as well. Pack Pride@packpride·6m The ACC semis at 7pm & 9pm ET on Friday. Championship game will be Saturday night at 830pm Let's just hope for a Clemson-Ga. Tech final next year to pack them in
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