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Post by kbones17 on Dec 5, 2022 18:49:23 GMT -5
Sad to say, but Georgetown is a millstone dragging down the whole conference. Conference really needs us and instead we are a laughingstock that will kill some BE bubble teams with a few conference wins.
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Post by kbones17 on Dec 3, 2022 15:08:12 GMT -5
There are 213 people on this site now, more than I have seen in a long time. My guess is 10 or less would oppose a coaching change. That’s good to hear. I have no idea if outrage will ever translate to any action, but that’s the only thing I can hope for at this point.
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Post by kbones17 on Dec 3, 2022 14:45:37 GMT -5
I think there is no choice with losses to Siena and Syracuse. I think they would make a mid-season change. I will never root against us, in fact I think I am incapable of watching these games and hoping to lose, but…if losses can mercifully bring us closer to real meaningful changes…
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Post by kbones17 on Dec 3, 2022 14:38:54 GMT -5
That was two bad teams flailing against each other. And of course we found a way to be worse.
Even if we had 5 NBA players we’d find to a way to be worse together than the sum of the parts. The whole thing is just rotten and needs to be swept clean. PE is trying but he doesn’t have it. We are in purgatory.
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Post by kbones17 on Dec 3, 2022 14:31:32 GMT -5
The ship already sank. Question is now just long it takes to acknowledge it.
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Post by kbones17 on Nov 25, 2022 16:20:22 GMT -5
Nova losing big to Portland and likely on their way to 2-4. Shows how much good coaching matters in College Basketball.
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Post by kbones17 on Nov 23, 2022 16:38:12 GMT -5
there is no point in even debating strategy, lineups, etc. anymore. The second halves this team has been putting up are more poorly coached than a weekly game of middle aged guys playing at a local gym. The complete lack of any coherent plan on either end of the court is astounding to watch. What are they doing at practice every day? Any half decent high school coach could install basic offensive and defensive schemes that would be far better than the mess that we have been displaying this season. Primo put on quite a show today - forcing both shots and passes, and actively stepping out of the way of a driving AU player in transition to allow an uncontested basket. Towards the end of the JTIII era, I despaired that Georgetown was functionally finished as a serious program. I figured they would never Leave Big John's son, and we would be stuck with the .500 at best performance of the late era JTIII teams for another decade. I was happily shocked when they fired JTIII. But then when Ewing was hired - it should have been immediately clear that the institution was not looking to move forward, they were just "shuffling the deck chairs on the titanic". I tried to hope that Ewing would do a good job with a "modern NBA approach" that moved us forward from the Princeton stuff that was not working anymore. But I (like most of us) could not shake the feeling that the Ewing hire was likely to be a failure because we were still stuck in the shadow of Big John, well after the time for his style of program had passed us by. There were moments of hope in the first few season. But when Akinjo/LeBlanc et. al. transferred - that was the clear indicator that the program was in big trouble. And it has been all downhill since. Some positive individual moments, the great BE tournament run - but those were just blips in a steady downhill trajectory. The bottom fell out last season, and now we have blasted a hole in the bottom and found some new depth of failure that I don't think I could have even imagined a few years ago. There is no answer here. Ewing is not leaving a penny on the table. the school apparently can't afford to eat the $12 million they owe him. I think we would be better off firing Ewing and hiring some low level college assistant or some high school coach for $300K for the next 3 years, until the ewing contract is paid off. At least a cheap young coach who is actually a basketball coach would know how to install an actual offensive and defensive plan. Accept being the worst team in the BE (and all of major conference basketball?)) or a few years. maybe we get lucky and the young guy we hire does a good job - and we give him a significant raise in order to keep him after Ewing is paid off. Or most likely - the cheap new guy fails, and in three years we have the money we were paying Ewing to use on a serious, experienced college coach. The worst option (and the most likely one) - we keep Ewing on for another year or two, until we can afford the buyout. we continue as a national embarrassment for the rest of this and next season. Normally it would not even be a national story for a team to be this bad for this long. But as long as Ewing is our coach, every humiliating loss will still get some degree of national attention. We drive the program to such a low level that it may become impossible for any coach to dig us out. Time to buckle up for the Texas Tech game next week. I would think the over/under on how many points we score has to be around 40, and the under lookjs awfully enticing. If we stay within 30 points of them, I'll be extremely surprised. the only way it happens - if Adams goes to deep bench and walk-ons for the final 10-20 minutes of the game. Even then - their deep bench and walk-ons are probably at least as good as the AU players, so they may well run up the score further even with the bottom of the roster on the court. The only silver lining - I no longer feel a moment of angst about this team. I used to be depressed for days after every loss. Now - I don't feel a thing even when we suffer the worst loss in program history. we could all see it coming at halftime - up 10 only because AU could not hit the wide open 3s we were giving them. We knew that all it was going to take was for AU to score a few times in a row, and the Hoyas would instantly go into "Ewing second half panic" mode and suffer the massive scoring run that has become the trademark of the Ewing era. If I were a gambling man - i would be trying to cash in big on whatever is left of the Ewing era by betting the money line against Georgetown in every game. This may be the soundest investment plan available in these turbulent economic times! This is where I’m at. I’ve had to emotionally detach myself. There is no use trying to debate strategies or playing time or anything else other than wiping the slate clean. It’s time. It’s actually way past time. But GU is serious about playing competitive basketball than this cannot continue. PE should be gone within the week at the latest. And Ronny
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Post by kbones17 on Nov 23, 2022 16:34:36 GMT -5
there is no point in even debating strategy, lineups, etc. anymore. The second halves this team has been putting up are more poorly coached than a weekly game of middle aged guys playing at a local gym. The complete lack of any coherent plan on either end of the court is astounding to watch. What are they doing at practice every day? Any half decent high school coach could install basic offensive and defensive schemes that would be far better than the mess that we have been displaying this season. Primo put on quite a show today - forcing both shots and passes, and actively stepping out of the way of a driving AU player in transition to allow an uncontested basket. Towards the end of the JTIII era, I despaired that Georgetown was functionally finished as a serious program. I figured they would never Leave Big John's son, and we would be stuck with the .500 at best performance of the late era JTIII teams for another decade. I was happily shocked when they fired JTIII. But then when Ewing was hired - it should have been immediately clear that the institution was not looking to move forward, they were just "shuffling the deck chairs on the titanic". I tried to hope that Ewing would do a good job with a "modern NBA approach" that moved us forward from the Princeton stuff that was not working anymore. But I (like most of us) could not shake the feeling that the Ewing hire was likely to be a failure because we were still stuck in the shadow of Big John, well after the time for his style of program had passed us by. There were moments of hope in the first few season. But when Akinjo/LeBlanc et. al. transferred - that was the clear indicator that the program was in big trouble. And it has been all downhill since. Some positive individual moments, the great BE tournament run - but those were just blips in a steady downhill trajectory. The bottom fell out last season, and now we have blasted a hole in the bottom and found some new depth of failure that I don't think I could have even imagined a few years ago. There is no answer here. Ewing is not leaving a penny on the table. the school apparently can't afford to eat the $12 million they owe him. I think we would be better off firing Ewing and hiring some low level college assistant or some high school coach for $300K for the next 3 years, until the ewing contract is paid off. At least a cheap young coach who is actually a basketball coach would know how to install an actual offensive and defensive plan. Accept being the worst team in the BE (and all of major conference basketball?)) or a few years. maybe we get lucky and the young guy we hire does a good job - and we give him a significant raise in order to keep him after Ewing is paid off. Or most likely - the cheap new guy fails, and in three years we have the money we were paying Ewing to use on a serious, experienced college coach. The worst option (and the most likely one) - we keep Ewing on for another year or two, until we can afford the buyout. we continue as a national embarrassment for the rest of this and next season. Normally it would not even be a national story for a team to be this bad for this long. But as long as Ewing is our coach, every humiliating loss will still get some degree of national attention. We drive the program to such a low level that it may become impossible for any coach to dig us out. Time to buckle up for the Texas Tech game next week. I would think the over/under on how many points we score has to be around 40, and the under lookjs awfully enticing. If we stay within 30 points of them, I'll be extremely surprised. the only way it happens - if Adams goes to deep bench and walk-ons for the final 10-20 minutes of the game. Even then - their deep bench and walk-ons are probably at least as good as the AU players, so they may well run up the score further even with the bottom of the roster on the court. The only silver lining - I no longer feel a moment of angst about this team. I used to be depressed for days after every loss. Now - I don't feel a thing even when we suffer the worst loss in program history. we could all see it coming at halftime - up 10 only because AU could not hit the wide open 3s we were giving them. We knew that all it was going to take was for AU to score a few times in a row, and the Hoyas would instantly go into "Ewing second half panic" mode and suffer the massive scoring run that has become the trademark of the Ewing era. If I were a gambling man - i would be trying to cash in big on whatever is left of the Ewing era by betting the money line against Georgetown in every game. This may be the soundest investment plan available in these turbulent economic times! This is where I’m at. I’ve had to emotionally detach myself. There is no use trying to debate strategies or playing time or anything else other than wiping the slate clean. It’s time. It’s actually way past time. But GU is serious about playing competitive basketball than this cannot continue. PE should be gone within the week at the latest.
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Post by kbones17 on Nov 23, 2022 15:00:12 GMT -5
It’s paper bag on head season
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Post by kbones17 on Nov 21, 2022 16:59:16 GMT -5
To highlight something in the Casual post that hoyaboya quoted: After that game, 26.8% of our Field Goal Attempts are threes, this is ranked 344th of 362 teams. In modern basketball, you simply cannot win a lot of games against good teams shooting so few threes (or you need to take a LOT of layups/dunks and/or other things really well to make up for it; we basically did this against LaSalle with Wahab but it won't work against better teams). This is a real problem for the continued effectiveness of Wahab. Against LaSalle, he can bully his way to the basket, draw fouls, etc. But against better teams (with bigger players and better defenders), other teams will pack it in if we do not shoot enough from the perimeter. Nobody will mistake us for an excellent three point shooting team, but we aren't horrible at it either - 34.1% - enough to be slightly above average in D-1 (ranked 154). Why aren't we shooting more threes, and instead taking a ton of long twos that, if taken a few steps back (and in some instances, inches) would be threes? I simply don't understand the offensive philosophy we seem to employ. Agreed. I actually think our best offensive play will be working to get BMurray or Heath and open three with Akok and Wahab near the basket for potential of offensive rebound putback. The problem with the Wahab back to the basket contested two-point attempt is that it is almost assuredly a one and done situation since Akok needs to clear and Wahab won’t be able to rebound a miss unless he is really close in.
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Post by kbones17 on Nov 21, 2022 16:52:02 GMT -5
Real sad that I can see how this season unfolds. 7-4 OOC (beat either SoCarolina or Cuse but not both), 6-14 in conference (down year for BE and enough talent we’ll find out way to some wins), first round exit in BE tournament, 13-19 overall with a spin of positive progress from last year. Sigh.
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Post by kbones17 on Nov 10, 2022 11:31:21 GMT -5
I don’t think anyone was expecting a fully formed defensive scheme from day 1. But I was expecting more than what I saw, which was a lot of the same issues from the last five years. And this is with an entirely new six man rotation which consisted of veteran college players (2 sophomores, 2 RS juniors, 1 senior and 1 postgrad). I saw no effective adjustments in game and a fatal mistake in failing to foul up three in the final seconds. We had a significant size and talent advantage on that team and we basically accommodated everything they wanted to do offensively. Need to see dramatic improvement game to game to give me hope.
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Post by kbones17 on Nov 9, 2022 22:58:20 GMT -5
I, like most here, was excited to hear from PE that Coach Nick (really anyone other than PE) was taking the lead on coaching the defense. I was anxiously interested on what we would show in game 1. Needless to say, disappointed to see many of the same issues as before despite the entire 6 player rotation being new. Big issues that I saw yesterday: —Disconnect in preparation if we planned on a very short rotation (6 players) and also planned to run full court pressure most of the game. —Lack of in-game adjustments, primarily in the second half as we gave up 49 points. Coppin State had little trouble breaking press and getting open threes or getting to the hoop and getting fouled. We forced them into almost no long two point attempts, which should be the goal. At one point late (in the last two minutes) we got up 5 or 6 and still were pressing. It’s like we have no awareness sometimes. When B Murray missed both FT’s with ten seconds left we also had rebounders on the key rather than having them back to set the defense. —Still way too much freelancing and over helping and leaving shooters. It’s a broken record in year six, but all you need is get by primary defender, wait for the overhelping and hit the wide open shooter. On the limited positives, I do think we need the full court pressure in our bag, but also need to vary approaches throughout the game and I think when Wahab is out there we need to go away from it and stay with trapping, and some zone. It’s the first game with new coaches and new players but I was not impressed by what I saw on the defensive side. This is the area I’ll be watching most closely throughout the season. Improving the defense to at least respectable levels is the only way for Us to improve this program from the current depths we find ourselves in. I should also say that I think we have the talent to be at least an average defense. Obviously Akok is impressive, Murray comes with a solid defensive rep, Mozone and Bristol are experienced, Wahab will block some shots and rebound at a high level (if he can stay on the court), Anglin and Bass have potential, etc. No excuses this year. Need to coach them up, install a system and get them to play together.
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Post by kbones17 on Nov 9, 2022 22:45:15 GMT -5
I, like most here, was excited to hear from PE that Coach Nick (really anyone other than PE) was taking the lead on coaching the defense. I was anxiously interested on what we would show in game 1. Needless to say, disappointed to see many of the same issues as before despite the entire 6 player rotation being new. Big issues that I saw yesterday: —Disconnect in preparation if we planned on a very short rotation (6 players) and also planned to run full court pressure most of the game. —Lack of in-game adjustments, primarily in the second half as we gave up 49 points. Coppin State had little trouble breaking press and getting open threes or getting to the hoop and getting fouled. We forced them into almost no long two point attempts, which should be the goal. At one point late (in the last two minutes) we got up 5 or 6 and still were pressing. It’s like we have no awareness sometimes. When B Murray missed both FT’s with ten seconds left we also had rebounders on the key rather than having them back to set the defense. —Still way too much freelancing and over helping and leaving shooters. It’s a broken record in year six, but all you need is get by primary defender, wait for the overhelping and hit the wide open shooter.
On the limited positives, I do think we need the full court pressure in our bag, but also need to vary approaches throughout the game and I think when Wahab is out there we need to go away from it and stay with trapping, and some zone. It’s the first game with new coaches and new players but I was not impressed by what I saw on the defensive side. This is the area I’ll be watching most closely throughout the season. Improving the defense to at least respectable levels is the only way for Us to improve this program from the current depths we find ourselves in.
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Post by kbones17 on Nov 9, 2022 19:10:12 GMT -5
Top class of 2023 recruits headed to the Big East, according to 247 (no Hoya mentions): "CG Stephon Castle, UConn (No. 23) SG Solomon Ball, UConn (No. 38) PG Trey Green, Xavier (No. 65) SF Jaylin Stewart, UConn (No. 78) SG Garwey Dual, Providence (No. 88) Sleeper: SF Dailyn Swain, Xavier Analysis: Connecticut will hold the highest expectations in the Big East when it comes to the class of 2023. UConn's five man class ranks No. 4 nationally. Stephon Castle's’ scoring ability along with Solomon Ball's athleticism and defense will draw a lot of eyes for the Huskies. Garwey Dual is a late bloomer with tremendous length and upside who can come into his own under Ed Cooley during his time with the Friars. In his first year of recruiting at Villanova, new head coach Kyle Neptune has yet to land a commitment after keeping together a top 25 class in 2022. In addition to the Huskies, Xavier and Marquette are also inking classes that rank among the top 20 nationally." 247sports.com/college/basketball/recruiting/LongFormArticle/national-signing-day-power-6-acc-big-12-big-east-big-10-pac-12-sec-duke-kentucky-ohio-state-unconn-maryland-kansas-197181290/#197181290_3With the transfer portal a 5 person class will be a rarity for top teams. Guys don’t want to sit and coaches don’t want to commit too much time and effort to kids that will leave them in a year or two. Much safer to get a rising sophomore or junior transfer.
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Post by kbones17 on Nov 9, 2022 1:41:34 GMT -5
Not sure we can keep pressing with Wahab on the floor. Too easy for him to pick up quick fouls. We should stick with token pressure and trapping but not full press.
I like the press for the second unit, burst of energy with Riley and hopefully some Anglin and Bass sometime. Eziwiro. Coach Nick needs to get ahold of this defense.
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Post by kbones17 on Nov 8, 2022 23:41:59 GMT -5
Wow. Need need need Heath to get that waiver. This team has some talent (definitely more than last year) but they absolutely can’t give up 49 points in the second half to Coppin State. Just can’t happen. Defensively we tried to press and trap more but it was a mess; I have no idea how we don’t change up the approach in the second half while we’re getting shredded. Until this team can learn to get stops we won’t improve.
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Post by kbones17 on Jul 11, 2022 0:16:49 GMT -5
I’m glad there is competition but don’t count out Dante. He’s still lightning quick and can play defense. Last year was tough all around, but Dante won’t back down. Talent level is much higher than last year. Rack up assists getting the ball to Murray, Heath and Wahab in good spots, play defense and close out games. Anglin has looked good as well. Really it’s a three person race for PG minutes.
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Post by kbones17 on Jul 9, 2022 11:03:30 GMT -5
Bummer only Kenner is Sunday night this week! Need to wait two extra days to get my fix.
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Post by kbones17 on Jul 1, 2022 18:30:28 GMT -5
The rosters look STACKED this summer. Be forewarned that the Hoya teams may get smoked in the games. Rather they get PT even if that means being up against a lot of high major and veteran guys from the area. Should be fun!’
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