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Post by AshantiCooksBurner on Jan 24, 2018 9:03:47 GMT -5
Want Morsell bad. Need to get back in the WCAC, and he's a great 2 guard.
Too often we blame the coaches for not "putting up a fence" around the area talent. It's just not realistic, some kids just want to go to college away from home. That said, it is horrible that we have one WCAC player on our entire roster right now. Year after year there are 5-8 guys going big time D-1 from this conference. Have to get at least one a year.
How often do the coaches attend WCAC games? I see Pat and staff out seeing Leque, Montgomery and others, but was anyone at SJC vs Dematha last night? O'Connell vs Gonzaga? When we are in town and these teams are playing Pat and staff should be front and center as often as possible.
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Post by AshantiCooksBurner on Jan 22, 2018 10:21:59 GMT -5
Sorry for highjacking the thread ^^. Came here to say EJ Montgomery would be an enormous pickup.
Call me a crazy optimist, but I am curious to see how Montgomery and Quinerly play out. Pat closing Montgomery would be an enormous feather in his cap in recruiting. Pickett was an impressive win, Montgomery would be a similar win, but with a better player.
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Post by AshantiCooksBurner on Jan 22, 2018 10:18:07 GMT -5
The Jessie question is does he want to be a Diamond Stone, Caleb Swanigan, Thomas Bryant type who probably won't get drafted (all three of those guys did and had higher profiles) and are one 2-way contracts or shuffling in & out of the D league? If he has all his credits and has graduated, maybe that is the correct call. If not, why not hang back for one more year to have a go of it vs. playing in hockey arenas with guys jacking up shots. Regardless of the move he makes, we need another center as it takes those kids a year to develop and with Sodom gone we need to plug an obvious gap. This is exactly correct to me, but I think you are making the G-League sound worse than it is. It is very good basketball and entertaining as hell to watch. Basically college all star teams playing out there, it's a nice jog down memory lane for big college bball fans. I never blame a guy for going pro if he is going to play professionally, as long as he has graduated. Can't blame a man for wanting to begin his professional career, start making money and elongate his career. Obviously I hope he stays, but I wouldn't be surprised if he leaves to go this route. That said, I don't know why someone would want to leave college. If it were up to me, I'd be a 10th year senior.
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Post by AshantiCooksBurner on Jan 20, 2018 14:53:18 GMT -5
I haven't seen any evidence that Pinson is a 38% or higher 3pt shooter if that's what you're asking.. The game clips from this season show a pretty well developed mid range game and nice finishing capabilities.. We're not in need of shooters. Blair, Pickett, Derrickson, Govan, Carter, McClung, Mourning, and Malinowski can all shoot the three. We need guards that can get them open.....that is our problem. Can the kid run a team without averaging 6-7 tos.... Agreed. It would be great if he could hit open 3s, but we need someone who can play major minutes without turning the ball over a million times.
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Post by AshantiCooksBurner on Jan 19, 2018 16:30:42 GMT -5
I think it goes without saying this would be the coup of the Pat Ewing tenure so far. Potentially turns us into a tourney team next year. Consensus all american. That said, i won't be holding my breathe.
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Post by AshantiCooksBurner on Jan 19, 2018 14:06:38 GMT -5
The more I read and watch Pinson, the more I want him. Blair, McClung, Pinson all just getting better together over the next few years. Yes please.
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Post by AshantiCooksBurner on Jan 19, 2018 10:02:39 GMT -5
Like his handle and quickness. Hard to tell about anything defensively, shooting or decision making, but gotta trust the staff thinking this kid can handle the Big East. Running point very well at a major program in Chicago. Gotta love that.
I don't like how people say things about how he isn't the game changer we need etc etc. It is not realistic to think we will go back-back-back years at the bottom of the Big East, make a coaching change to someone with zero recruiting/college experience and suddenly get a bunch of top 50 players year after year.
Not to mention that the way to build a program isn't through one-dones, it's by getting guys like what Pinson could be. come in raw, get bigger and better every year. have a solid 4 year career.
Trust the process ladies and gentlemen.
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Post by AshantiCooksBurner on Jan 17, 2018 11:20:08 GMT -5
Broadnax - Gaffney - one of Stewart, Cockburn, Igiehorn - Morsell.
Please.
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Post by AshantiCooksBurner on Jan 5, 2018 23:57:06 GMT -5
Do we need another sf when we already have Pickett, Johnson, and LeBlanc??? I just don't see it that way. Good teams stock pile good players. The kid is a big time prospect who can fall into our laps and play a big role for us for three years. What is the downside? We have too many good wing players that can score? Maybe he stops another wing from coming here in 19 or something, but ok, we got him instead.
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Post by AshantiCooksBurner on Jan 1, 2018 13:51:28 GMT -5
Definite take. Yeah he isn't a PG or a C like we need, but he is a solid wing with a great stroke. I am sure we would find a spot for him next to Pickett
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Post by AshantiCooksBurner on Dec 26, 2017 16:00:27 GMT -5
Is he a day 1 starter, major contributor or select minutes type? Moses Brown? Day one major contributor. Lottery pick. Big time talent.
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Post by AshantiCooksBurner on Dec 24, 2017 13:07:47 GMT -5
If the Hoyas are going to show any progress from last year, it's games like this that they have to win. Road wins in the Big East are going to be VERY tough to come by, so we have to take ones like this, Providence, Depaul, SJU, Marquette at home.. As for Butler, they are not the super well-coached/deep team from year's past. They have two very solid players on the wings in Martin and Baldwin, but after that it is a drop off. Wideman/Fowler are definitely a step below Govan/Derrickson on the inside. Big boys, but not super skilled and can't step out like our 2. Their guard play is decent, but Jagan and Mulmore should have the upper hand in the open floor. Their PG is a kid who was playing at GW the last couple of years, but he is nothing special. They have a freshman Aaron Thompson who played at Paul VI and I think he is a very solid player, but just a freshman still and on the small side. Mosely will be able to use his size on both PGs. This team was trounced by Maryland, Texas and Purdue already and most of their OOC wins are about as impressive as ours. Utah, Ohio State and St Louis are their only solid wins, and those teams are not what they usually are. Martin will be the best player on the court, but if we can contain him and hit some shots. We can win this one! Hoya Saxa! I definitely agree with you that these are the types of games the Hoyas need to win,they have to establish a home court advantage.. To me you're underestimating Jorgensen, he's been very good for them this season.. He's shooting 43% from 3(29-66) plus he's only had 9 TO's this season.. Gtown fans would be on cloud 9 if we got that type of production from one of the guards.. Govan will be the best player on the floor but I agree that Gtown can win this game.. Those are great stats on Jorgensen. Honestly, I only watched them closely against Ohio State and Maryland and I don't remember him doing anything in those games. Those are impressive numbers and that TO number makes me very jealous of their fans.
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Post by AshantiCooksBurner on Dec 24, 2017 11:34:38 GMT -5
If the Hoyas are going to show any progress from last year, it's games like this that they have to win. Road wins in the Big East are going to be VERY tough to come by, so we have to take ones like this, Providence, Depaul, SJU, Marquette at home..
As for Butler, they are not the super well-coached/deep team from year's past. They have two very solid players on the wings in Martin and Baldwin, but after that it is a drop off. Wideman/Fowler are definitely a step below Govan/Derrickson on the inside. Big boys, but not super skilled and can't step out like our 2. Their guard play is decent, but Jagan and Mulmore should have the upper hand in the open floor. Their PG is a kid who was playing at GW the last couple of years, but he is nothing special. They have a freshman Aaron Thompson who played at Paul VI and I think he is a very solid player, but just a freshman still and on the small side. Mosely will be able to use his size on both PGs.
This team was trounced by Maryland, Texas and Purdue already and most of their OOC wins are about as impressive as ours. Utah, Ohio State and St Louis are their only solid wins, and those teams are not what they usually are. Martin will be the best player on the court, but if we can contain him and hit some shots. We can win this one!
Hoya Saxa!
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Post by AshantiCooksBurner on Dec 21, 2017 10:34:30 GMT -5
I think the Moses Brown recruitment deserves notice...given the Sodom situation and Govan putting up 1st team BE numbers...lookin like a pro...Moses could be the key piece in our recruitment given whose coming/returning back to go along with Derrickson in the paint. I think he was to a place when he'll be featured...Ewing/Gtown provides that. I agree with this entirely. I was just thinking about how if Govan jumps early, we would be a prime spot for a big who wants to come in and be the guy.
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Post by AshantiCooksBurner on Dec 17, 2017 21:49:57 GMT -5
Brian Bowen....just saying. Go on.....
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Post by AshantiCooksBurner on Dec 17, 2017 15:54:01 GMT -5
Morsell should be our #1 target after the NY bigs (Stewart, Igiehorn, Kofi). One of those and Morsell and I will be THRILLED with the class.
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Post by AshantiCooksBurner on Dec 13, 2017 15:31:27 GMT -5
No doubt we could use a kid like him. But do we really need another pf??? We already got Carter and LeBlanc signed. Next yr Derrickson would be a senior. Would be crowded at the 4 spot we if landed him. Gtown has Walker too.. A program should always look for talent but this roster needs balance.. I understand what you are saying, but with a kid like this, you absolutely go after him. He is a monster and would be by far the gem of the entire class. Day one starter IMO.
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Post by AshantiCooksBurner on Dec 6, 2017 8:57:20 GMT -5
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Post by AshantiCooksBurner on Nov 15, 2017 13:01:49 GMT -5
Great example with Creighton. That said, I don't really think this is a good strategy in basketball. Yes it most likely means you will get an extra year out of a player, but in the case of Justin Patton, I bet Creighton wishes they had gotten more than one year of play out of him. Redshirting makes more sense in football when a guy is your 4th string LT and needs to put on 20 pounds before stepping on the field. In basketball, they can learn playing garbage minutes and even getting the occasional run in real situations based on foul trouble or injuries. Sodom is going to get better in practice and in the offseason, but playing 5-10 minutes here and there throughout the year will be huge for him. Also as others have said, we don't have the big man depth to afford a redshirt for anyone above 6'6"... Sodom and the left tackle example are pretty close though. Watching him enter a game I worry about him snapping a limb. The kid needs to put on 30 pounds minimum. Fair point. Someone needs to get that boy some body fat.. If only he could take some of mine.....
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Post by AshantiCooksBurner on Nov 15, 2017 11:15:17 GMT -5
I was kind of hoping Sodom would be a RS candidate. Butler has done this a few times with freshman and in some cases with kids that were much more prepared to play immediately (Joey Brunk for example). Brunk was redshirted because his father was very I'll and unfortunately passed away last season. Butler initially had no plans to redshirt him. Creighton is a better example of redshirting BIGs not ready to play as freshman. Did it with Justin Patton and are now doing it with Jacob Epperson. Sodom would be a great candidate for a redshirt Freshman season but with no Trey Mourning there's no chance for that. Instead Ewing needs to speed up his development and find away to steal at least 3-5 minutes a half in these early games and hopefully build his confidence and comfort level now rather than tossing him into the fire in an emergency situation when conference play starts. Great example with Creighton. That said, I don't really think this is a good strategy in basketball. Yes it most likely means you will get an extra year out of a player, but in the case of Justin Patton, I bet Creighton wishes they had gotten more than one year of play out of him. Redshirting makes more sense in football when a guy is your 4th string LT and needs to put on 20 pounds before stepping on the field. In basketball, they can learn playing garbage minutes and even getting the occasional run in real situations based on foul trouble or injuries. Sodom is going to get better in practice and in the offseason, but playing 5-10 minutes here and there throughout the year will be huge for him. Also as others have said, we don't have the big man depth to afford a redshirt for anyone above 6'6"...
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