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Post by iowa80 on Mar 22, 2022 16:17:45 GMT -5
I know it won't sell well to HoyaTalk or Twitter, but what if the promised "changes" stop at Waheed? Crouch (or Howze) moves up, a new staffer is hired as evidence of "change", and the Patrick/Ronny tandem stays incognito through the "virtual practice" where we're all promised a fresh start. I don't know what this means. So don't fire Kirby? Just Waheed and Crouch moves up? I thought Kirby was already gone. Are you saying they have rethought firing Kirby? Maybe they are not seeing better candidates available or maybe they have reassessed Kirby's contribution to the roster? “Coach Kirby, we know we publicly fired you awhile ago but we can’t find anyone who wants to take your place. We are interested in renewing our relationship if you have nothing better to do. Give us a call. The Admin.”
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Post by iowa80 on Mar 22, 2022 6:40:25 GMT -5
Interesting take on Willard's hiring at MD. Is Willard better? Maybe. But his résumé at Iona and Seton Hall certainly doesn’t make it obvious. This much is true: Going 143-80 (.641) overall and 1-5 in the NCAA tournament over the past seven seasons got Willard the Maryland job. Turgeon went 162-70 (.698) over his last seven full seasons and 5-5 in the tournament, and a huge segment of the fan base couldn’t wait for him to walk out the door. Replicating what got him the Maryland job just might get Willard fired in College Park. www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2022/03/21/kevin-willard-maryland-basketball/Is Turgeon sitting out next year? I don't see his name mentioned.
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Post by iowa80 on Mar 21, 2022 21:46:00 GMT -5
Always sad to see the refs decide a tournament game. He also was trapped by the double team and the center court line and was going to cross that line if he didn't flail. His mistake was allowing himself to get to that point, should have recognized the trap and gotten rid of the ball earlier. That's really not relevant.
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Post by iowa80 on Mar 21, 2022 21:43:43 GMT -5
If he didn’t act like someone shot him from the book depository he might have gotten the call. Not fair and in advance I’ll admit probably a bad take, but I’m ok with some missed calls to try to get rid of that crap from college basketball. Now if I was a TCU fan… hm TCU had multiple opportunities to win that game at the end of regulation and melted down. I wouldn't argue that, but the refs clearly swallowed their whistle on that play, Sure, let's say "we don't want to decide a tournament game on foul shots." But that's still a foul 90 seconds earlier. Not a good thing.
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Post by iowa80 on Mar 21, 2022 21:07:22 GMT -5
Who did Skinn bring to the Hall from the area when he was Willard's assistant there? Dimingus Stevens and Ryan Conway from the DMV area, and Jahari Long from Texas. He was also the guard coach, and Seton Hall had pretty good guards from 2018-2021. OK, and I don't intend this to be contentious. Conway was a frosh this year (I think) with no light, and Stevens is already gone. I'm not arguing that he's a good coach and have no basis for doing so. Just wondering about the accepted narrative as to his DMV recruiting skills (see tweet).
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Post by iowa80 on Mar 21, 2022 20:42:45 GMT -5
Continued mediocrity is actually being kind. Take it from someone who lived through 1972. What we saw this year was abject failure (Syracuse aside - and even that isn't enough to excuse this). This team lost their last, what, 21 games? Ouch, right? Whatever I am as proud as I could be of the heart this team showed. I am guessing that the '72 season you lived through, those guys weren't on national TV for every loss, let alone being maligned on social media repeatedly every day. That '72 team didn't have their fans practically demanding, let alone encouraging, them to just give the Edited up for the supposed benefit of the program's future. No team has ever given more to Georgetown Hoyas basketball. They lost a lot of games, but they sure as Edited didn't fail as Hoyas. I would love to see what their toughness might yield next year. Look, I have no problem with being proud of the team--as fans should be of any Hoya team. But I would respectfully ask you to reconsider overly-expansive comments such as: "No team has ever given more to Georgetown Hoyas basketball." Viewpoints such as this really don't win hearts and minds.
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Post by iowa80 on Mar 21, 2022 20:00:02 GMT -5
Who did Skinn bring to the Hall from the area when he was Willard's assistant there?
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Post by iowa80 on Mar 21, 2022 14:00:45 GMT -5
We need one or more big, capable players who have one or more years of eligibility available next year! Don’t we need outgoing before we have any incoming?
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Post by iowa80 on Mar 21, 2022 13:50:43 GMT -5
There’s a good chance that the delay is not on our end, but on the reluctance of potential hires to commit without seeing how the upcoming “job fair” shakes out. A lot has been written here, correctly, about the undesirable nature of a job where the head man is on a hot seat. Potential hires are likely waiting to see how the game of musical assistants shakes out and who is left without a seat on somebody else’s bench. Those left standing in a couple of weeks without a job may be our pool. Hopefully, it will still be somebody good.
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Post by iowa80 on Mar 21, 2022 10:06:01 GMT -5
Willard at UMCP does not bother me at all. He's not a bad coach, pretty decent in fact, but I see no indication that he's a game changer. It could have been worse.
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Post by iowa80 on Mar 20, 2022 23:26:24 GMT -5
This is all well and good, but is it to much to ask for a couple of links if we're going to go after someone like this? I know, it's HoyaTalk but I will thank you in advance. Going after him? That’s what happened and I assumed it was common knowledge. In its report, the NCAA committee said: “A head coach does not promote compliance when he intentionally ignores committee penalties directed at him for intentional rules violations. A head coach also does not promote compliance when he himself commits intentional violations. This is particularly true when he commits these violations with the knowledge and assistance of a coach on his staff." www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/news/story?id=3725832amp.usatoday.com/amp/7053219002Thank you for the links about the telephone calls, and I’m sorry for not recalling the initial 2008 stuff. I’ll try to check the lying part for myself. .
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Post by iowa80 on Mar 20, 2022 22:16:51 GMT -5
Are you trying to gaslight us? You know we went 0-20 this year in the Big East and most of the time the opposing team would demolish us with a 28-2 run, and then we'd score 10 points against their subs in garbage time because we'd leave the starters in. This is recency bias to it's most extreme - our last game the team played decently against a Seton Hall team without it's best player, and it's second best player was playing one handed and coughing the ball up left and right in unforced turnovers because he couldn't even dribble, and suddenly Patrick Ewing is a gritty motivator like the other 20 games never happened. It's insane. Patrick Ewing is a terrible coach. You should be forced to rewatch the 2022 season for writing stuff like this. We made the tournament last year in a fluke and absolutely got blown out of the building. Ewing constructed a dreadful roster this year, and he hasn't been able to keep his rosters together when he had decent ones. That's problem #1. Problem #2 is that he is the inverse of Steve Spurrier as a coach. Spurrier tried to bring his college system straight to the NFL, and elite athletes ate him apart. Ewing is trying to run NBA sets with NBA defenses when his players aren't talented enough to do it. As Raftery said in the Seton Hall game after watching our huddle: "See the problem? He thinks he's talking to Patrick Ewing." College basketball and the NBA are two different animals, and Ewing either can't or won't adjust. Since he's never worked in college basketball before, we were really taking a risk here, and it has backfired. But I know people who cover college basketball who have seen Ewing's practices. They are well organized and detailed. He can coach. However, putting square pegs into round holes with a makeshift roster is never going to work. Bruce Pearl buys players, and that's about it. He gets exposed regularly when talent alone isn't good enough. OK, you’ve established based on unnamed observers at unstated practices that PE can coach despite the absolutely abysmal metrics throughout the last five years. I’m willing to yield the point provided the bargain is not having to hear any more of it.
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Post by iowa80 on Mar 20, 2022 20:01:09 GMT -5
Notre Dame vs Texas Tech is a dog fight The wrong dog is winning as I watch. Not sure that I can handle an ND Sweet Sixteen.
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Post by iowa80 on Mar 20, 2022 19:54:05 GMT -5
Sampson is a really fantastic coach. He gets a bad rap because of his NCAA violations, most of which aren't even violations anymore. That’s a step too far. While at OU he and his staff were found to have committed 550+ impermissible contacts, which sounds like a lot even if it was a dumb rule. But ok, fine let’s give him a pass. He doesn’t get a pass for lying to his employers at Indiana and the NCAA when he got caught doing it again in violation of a punishment expressly handed down for his prior infractions. That’s why he was given the Show Cause and has a dirty rep. This is all well and good, but is it to much to ask for a couple of links if we're going to go after someone like this? I know, it's HoyaTalk but I will thank you in advance.
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Post by iowa80 on Mar 20, 2022 17:23:28 GMT -5
I'm not part of any crew. I look at myself as more of a Switzerland. But I feel like those stats do not take into consideration the affect of the JA/Mac debacle. When I look at transfer situations I see predictable reasons. Don't get along with coach, not getting PT, homesick, school/legal infractions..etc. You just can’t prepare for player hate teammate just because he's more popular with media/fans. To me all of these numbers are skewed by that situation. Ewing had a team that was trending in the right direction and then it all went south and I will always give JA more blame than I give anyone else. That team became the Hatfields and McCoys and if you can show me one other time in history that has happened and the coach managed it I'll let it go. Did the alleged Akinjo and McClung feud cause other teammates to get caught up in the situation which caused them to transfer? Also worth knowing if anyone has enough knowledge of the situation to assign blame in any respect.
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Post by iowa80 on Mar 20, 2022 16:16:52 GMT -5
I imagine several saw the little interview with Sampson, where he said teaching defense is the hardest part of coaching, and getting players to buy into concentrating on defense is why. So, he obviously must work on that, a lot. Hope our next coach comes sooner rather than later, 2023/4 at WORST. And is like Sampson, in that regard. Sampson is a really fantastic coach. He gets a bad rap because of his NCAA violations, most of which aren't even violations anymore. And he's had a clean program at Houston. I think he's one of the best coaches out there. I am not sure he'd ever leave Houston, they are lucky to have him. That is an upper-class heavy team, but it is not littered with top 100 players. He's kept a core in the program and coached them up. It can be done.
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Post by iowa80 on Mar 20, 2022 14:20:37 GMT -5
Well, I was using that as a reference example, not as the model example. In hindsight, I do think we win at least 6+ BE games with Tre King. I think our biggest deficiency, which kept us in games but with no ability to finish, was the fact that we didn’t get any starter or rotation level production from the 4 or 5. Having a serviceable body, Tre king or otherwise, would have made a world of difference. Shoot, even Tim being healthy all season (and being the froncourt focus earlier instead of King) might’ve resulted in another win or two. Ultimately, our spacing and off ball awareness were horrible this year and that’s what did it in. Our front court players were the biggest culprits there. And highly, highly disagree on Ewing being responsible for Tre King’s misstep (and others you mentioned, Sodom, for one, wasn’t told by Ewing to get arrested for harassing women at the Chinese disco, for example. But Ewing can be commended for disciplining him). For all we know Tre King lied about a compliance issue or a summer course. By all accounts, he was a well-mannered, well-spoken, well-respected kid of faith that made a mistake. Kids make mistakes at this age, irregardless of the guidance and support around them. King’s handling of the situation showed incredibly maturity (the opposite of your claim that Ewing should bear fault for recruiting the wrong kid, if anything he recruited the right kid - one that simply made a mistake). You really fault Ewing for that? That seems extreme and unfair. Those in the know clearly know and feel differently (hence Ewing surviving an 0-20 BE season). Excellent post There is nothing about the Tre King excuse that is not conjecture/speculation. Why not talk about our record if Morko had stayed? It's impossible to accurately predict a result in games not actually played (known sometimes, retrospectively, as win-shares).
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Post by iowa80 on Mar 20, 2022 14:07:13 GMT -5
Lol. They would have gotten killed if not for the Manek ejection. Akinjo played okay but still has the same problems of finishing and defensively he's not the elite type defender that fueled Baylor's run last year. His biggest flaw is still his ego. Every game I watched where he went up against another big time PG, he takes it personal and mixes in a one on one game to the 5 on 5. He's at his best as a distributor, but RJ Davis was lighting him up so he got preoccupied with trying to get him back instead of win the game. Same thing happened earlier this year with Quinnerly and a few other guys. 20 shot attempts from a player that's never shot 40% or better from the field in his career, while Brown/Meyer who are projected 1st and 2nd round picks combined for 15 shots total is not a recipe for success. You're right that he's nowhere near the defender that Mitchell is... despite that, they still win this game if he puts his ego in check and takes 10-12 shots instead of 20. Instead he had a point to prove... Davis was scoring on him so he had to prove he could score back on him. You may be right about "ego." A lot of players who have grown up excelling at the sport have it. But the bottom line is that Baylor does not have a lot of offensive creators without LJ Cryer--Akinjo's running mate at guard. Flagler took 25 shots yesterday, and he's about their best. If there's a way to separate Akinjo "ball hog" from Akinjo "somebody's got to do it," I haven't found it.
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Post by iowa80 on Mar 20, 2022 13:49:54 GMT -5
It has to be somebody like Aminu Mohammed who is looking to go somewhere he can be "the man", getting guaranteed minutes and shots. The problem is that because Ewing is such a horrible coach and the Hoyas are easy to scout, that top recruit risks devaluing his draft stock - which is exactly what happened to Aminu this season. Boya, you have no credibility to speak on coach Ewing or Georgetown Men’s Basketball. Tedious.
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Post by iowa80 on Mar 20, 2022 12:15:01 GMT -5
I would like to play defense like Houston. Let’s do that.
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