iowa80
Golden Hoya (over 1000 posts)
Posts: 2,402
|
Post by iowa80 on Mar 30, 2022 13:43:35 GMT -5
Any reason Hernandez would not be a good choice for assistant? I mean, other than the fact he might not take it.
|
|
iowa80
Golden Hoya (over 1000 posts)
Posts: 2,402
|
Post by iowa80 on Mar 28, 2022 19:36:41 GMT -5
So guilty until proven innocent? We already know that LSU is guilty, so Nickelberry starts with a strike against him. But that's why I said I'm willing to listen. See my next post. That's fine and I'm willing to listen if there's any actual evidence that he was involved in violations. As I've said elsewhere here, Wade, another assistant, and the football program were investigated seriously and "found guilty." No mention of Nickelberry. At some point "But LSU . . ." isn't really evidence.
|
|
iowa80
Golden Hoya (over 1000 posts)
Posts: 2,402
|
Post by iowa80 on Mar 28, 2022 12:35:24 GMT -5
As I understand it, Memphis' violations stem from Penny giving James Wiseman some money while Penny was coaching him in high school, and then Wiseman later committing to play for Penny when he was hired at Memphis. The other violations have to do with obstructing the NCAA's investigation of the matter. Feel fairly certain this scenario does not apply to Nickelberry. Relatedly, Will Wade's "strong-ass offer" was in 2017. Nickelberry was not hired by LSU until 2019. Lot of people choosing the "Kevin Nickelberry is clean" hill to die on, which is a hill absolutely no member of this board would have climbed in regards to any LSU assistant before we hired him. I suspect that there are some who require evidence before playing the guilt by association card. But then we’ve already done this.
|
|
iowa80
Golden Hoya (over 1000 posts)
Posts: 2,402
|
Post by iowa80 on Mar 27, 2022 16:19:53 GMT -5
Why, it's Donut Boy from Arizona....Ask yourself, why'd he leave there? He'll win, they'll be happy. Not excusing it, but it's the way of the college b'ball world. Prepare for the return of Will Wade in 23-24.
|
|
iowa80
Golden Hoya (over 1000 posts)
Posts: 2,402
|
Post by iowa80 on Mar 27, 2022 14:10:13 GMT -5
Also worth noting that there is a snowball effect to this whole process. Once you bring one or two people in to spots that come open, you are de facto likely recruiting over someone who has not yet decided, but then probably encouraging someone else to leave, which creates more spots. However, the first step is for the initial couple of spots to open.
|
|
iowa80
Golden Hoya (over 1000 posts)
Posts: 2,402
|
Post by iowa80 on Mar 26, 2022 18:34:26 GMT -5
Villanova is impressive again vs Houston Agree. Surprised at how good they look.
|
|
iowa80
Golden Hoya (over 1000 posts)
Posts: 2,402
|
Post by iowa80 on Mar 26, 2022 13:05:15 GMT -5
If the NCAA “didn’t care,” Will Wade would still be coaching. Sure, it probably took too long, but you just can’t say that there are no repercussions.
|
|
iowa80
Golden Hoya (over 1000 posts)
Posts: 2,402
|
Post by iowa80 on Mar 26, 2022 13:02:47 GMT -5
Someone is going to have to convince me that everything associated with L$U isn't tainted. Have at it, I'm more than willing to listen. So guilty until proven innocent?
|
|
iowa80
Golden Hoya (over 1000 posts)
Posts: 2,402
|
Post by iowa80 on Mar 26, 2022 11:49:12 GMT -5
Houston -2.5 over a 2 seed.
I might have to give the points.
|
|
iowa80
Golden Hoya (over 1000 posts)
Posts: 2,402
|
Post by iowa80 on Mar 26, 2022 11:45:51 GMT -5
God please don't let it be Duke...I couldn't stand a full 7 months of Count K slurping.. The fix is in to give Ferret Face a Hollywood ending culminating in final NC. You heard it here first! 😁 This must not happen.
|
|
iowa80
Golden Hoya (over 1000 posts)
Posts: 2,402
|
Post by iowa80 on Mar 25, 2022 17:28:58 GMT -5
That was a pretty uneventful Friday for such a big Thursday... I'm still wondering about the disappearance of the roster from GUHoyas.com. I thought that might be Friday.
|
|
iowa80
Golden Hoya (over 1000 posts)
Posts: 2,402
|
Post by iowa80 on Mar 24, 2022 23:32:25 GMT -5
Please stop with the coach Ewing supporters. We all are Georgetown fans we made disagree and get heated on Hoyatalk. There’s only few people who I questioned their true loyalty to the Hoyas. If you are a Hoya fan you have to be happy today. Putting aside my original concerns about the LSU connection (and admittedly I am probably being naive in general how most program operate nowadays) 1. We get the premier local recruiter that everyone has been dying for. His connections have the potential to pay immediate dividends. 2. He is coming from a program that prided themselves on their defense and you have to hope/assume Ewing will/must pick Nickleberry's brain. 3. For individuals like me and to hoyaroc's point...for those of us that felt Ewing's tenure should have come to end but then realized that was not happening...they fortunately looked outside the typical Gtown names...it looks like an influx of talent is on its way...so from that regard Ewing has no more leeway...he wins with the new talent fantastic...if he doesn't it will support what many of us felt is that he's not the right guy for the job. This looks like it will be a really good day for Hoya Nation and those have been few and far between over the last 12 months...so we should take today's Sorry but you need to reason your way out of any positive take. Nickelberry is dirty and we know that because over an extensive coaching career, there’s no evidence he is dirty. Learn to put a negative spin on everything and everyone will be happy.
|
|
iowa80
Golden Hoya (over 1000 posts)
Posts: 2,402
|
Post by iowa80 on Mar 24, 2022 16:29:05 GMT -5
Close but not yet. Another championship they will become. But a Providence tourney championship (or at least a win over Nova) coupled with a continued UCONN, Providence, St. John’s, Creighton and Marquette resurgence next year could keep the league better balanced. Notice I left a Hoya resurgence out. Villanova is a top-five (maybe at the top of the top five) program nationally right now. If we don’t like that, we need to start beating them. Yes, and the conference is much more weakened by the bottom dwellers than any imbalance at the top.
|
|
iowa80
Golden Hoya (over 1000 posts)
Posts: 2,402
|
Post by iowa80 on Mar 24, 2022 9:57:11 GMT -5
Because it’s a lot more fun to assume without evidence that Nickelberry is dirty? Good lord, the lawyering here is out of control. You are your optics here - we're hiring this guy from LSU because he can do the dirty work and we're desperate not because he is St. Teresa. The quotes from DC area people are "hey, this is a great hire because he can do the dirty work", and you're trying to tell us he's clean or that "you can't prove he's dirty". I don't have to prove he's dirty, we're hiring him because we know he is. So actually relying on facts as opposed to rank speculation is “lawyering.” But making stuff up is just fine. Good to know. I don’t think much of Pat as a coach, and the program is pretty much a disaster, but I ‘m glad I’m not yet at the point where every move must be criticized.
|
|
iowa80
Golden Hoya (over 1000 posts)
Posts: 2,402
|
Post by iowa80 on Mar 24, 2022 9:35:52 GMT -5
I'm fine with the hire, but I don't want to read any more holier-than-thou posts about how Georgetown is above other (formerly peer) programs in terms of ethics after this. Because it’s a lot more fun to assume without evidence that Nickelberry is dirty?
|
|
iowa80
Golden Hoya (over 1000 posts)
Posts: 2,402
|
Post by iowa80 on Mar 24, 2022 9:31:36 GMT -5
The detailed Notice of Allegations sent to LSU about basketball named two staff—Wade and Assistant Bill Armstrong. There was no mention of Nickelberry. Right - that is why Nickelberry could be the interim coach, because he wasn't explicitly named in violations. It doesn't mean he was clean, let's stop with the gaslighting. We're hiring him from LSU because he can do the same thing he did at LSU and maybe bring us Brandon Murray in the method he got Brandon Murray to come to LSU. Think that quote is absolutely perfect. So the investigation named an assistant—Armstrong—and did not name another assistant, Nickelberry. Those are two facts, but . . .gaslighting. But speculating without any specific evidence that he was not clean is just fine.
|
|
iowa80
Golden Hoya (over 1000 posts)
Posts: 2,402
|
Post by iowa80 on Mar 24, 2022 9:14:16 GMT -5
So Wade gets caught on tape... school says clean it up (or at least get cleaner)... school hires Nickelberry... and he's the baddie? Meanwhile the guy who was at LSU during the uncovered incidents was an assistant at GU for the last 5 years and... barely a peep? Kirby was on the previous staff at LSU (Johnny Jones), not the Wade staff. The violations happened after Kirby left LSU. Wade got caught on tape AND it was reported in 2019, Nickelberry was working there then, the school keeps Wade as the head coach for 3 years anyway because the violations don't really ethically matter to LSU - they only care about the ability to fire Wade and not owe him money. He finally gets charged with violations and they can fire him for cause in 2022. If you thought LSU was dirty, and people on this board have been throwing around $$$ accusations on any 18 year old kid even putting LSU on their recruitment list for years, I don't understand how you see this move as anything but us playing in the same sandbox. If you're for this, fine. Just don't pretend like we stand for whatever the Thompson legacy was supposed to be about. The detailed Notice of Allegations sent to LSU about basketball named two staff—Wade and Assistant Bill Armstrong. There was no mention of Nickelberry.
|
|
iowa80
Golden Hoya (over 1000 posts)
Posts: 2,402
|
Post by iowa80 on Mar 22, 2022 19:04:50 GMT -5
Look, I have no problem with being proud of the team--as fans should be of any Hoya team. But I would respectfully ask you to reconsider overly-expansive comments such as: "No team has ever given more to Georgetown Hoyas basketball." Viewpoints such as this really don't win hearts and minds. I am so terribly sorry, Iowa80, if my attempts to toss an appreciative needle into the self-pitying haystack of HoyaTalk made you uncomfortable. It is my honest opinion, though. One has to be seriously jaundiced in their view of the team to not acknowledge the unique difficulties these guys not only faced, but faced down, this year. The fought, they believed in themselves, and they improved throughout. I know my sentiments are crazed in their hyperbole compared to those even-tempered and well considered ones dispassionately asserting the abject failure and corruption of Georgetown Basketball, and I will just have to live with my shortcomings in that regard. That said, yea, the dignity and honor displayed by these guys will always ring out as a unique moment of Hoyas pride, imo I hope you don't really think that any kind of apology is ever warranted for my comments. We are all fans, hopefully, and I was only thinking of all of the other teams that have given their all.
|
|
iowa80
Golden Hoya (over 1000 posts)
Posts: 2,402
|
Post by iowa80 on Mar 22, 2022 18:51:05 GMT -5
Do we really need more guards? I think not! Right now (if you think Aminu is leaving & Riley is his logical backup at starting 3) we have 4 guards - Harris, Beard, Anglin, Bristol. That's if everybody stays. It's probably better than our frontcourt, but it's not very deep. We could really use one more if the roster allows, and absolutely NEED one if any of the 4 leave. Also 6'5 and averaged six boards a game. Got plenty of PT in a good program, so wonder why he's thinking about leaving? Maybe wants a bigger school? Is Coach Kirby our Georgia connection?
|
|
iowa80
Golden Hoya (over 1000 posts)
Posts: 2,402
|
Post by iowa80 on Mar 22, 2022 17:26:18 GMT -5
“Coach Kirby, we know we publicly fired you awhile ago but we can’t find anyone who wants to take your place. We are interested in renewing our relationship if you have nothing better to do. Give us a call. The Admin.” No one got publicly fired, unless you consider Adam Zagoria as the sports information director. GUHoyas.com made no such announcement and the staff directory remains unchanged. Was any contrary statement issued in response the report of the terminations? Or is correcting such reports in the service of the Assistants not our thing? As far as the website and staff directory, I don't see that as determinative given the inertia present. Who knows? Didn't Coach Waheed confirm his departure?
|
|