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Post by concord on Mar 14, 2013 13:09:33 GMT -5
And even with a poor shooting day for Otto, he's still in double figures. 11/11 from the line! So good.
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Post by concord on Mar 10, 2013 19:46:24 GMT -5
Great news! Very nice to read the comment that he "was widely considered overdue for an NBA callup based on his development at the point."
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Post by concord on Mar 3, 2013 22:48:26 GMT -5
Catholic 7 reportedly want 35 of 100 million Big East cash fund
So the sides are roughly $20M apart.
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Post by concord on Mar 3, 2013 0:18:35 GMT -5
What a job by JTIII this season. Finish strong Hoyas!
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Post by concord on Mar 2, 2013 12:33:40 GMT -5
I'm proud of Hank for how far he has come in the past 2 years. Hoya Saxa.
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Post by concord on Mar 2, 2013 0:35:45 GMT -5
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Post by concord on Mar 1, 2013 12:45:49 GMT -5
Total speculation alert****I would think Umass might be closer to killing their FBS program than anyone, even more than Memphis. Afterall they have not really committed to any real FBS facility upgrade and they are playing in front of Patriot League crowds at Gillette. I'd also venture that a resurgant Umass hoops team would carry Boston to the limited extent possible more than BC by far. I agree that UMass has as much support as BC in MA and would have much more if they were successful. But that basketball program has been a joke since Calipari left.
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Post by concord on Mar 1, 2013 10:56:23 GMT -5
Well, I guess my position is that WE (the denizens of Hoyatalk) have not done anything to forge this new conference, and that should the BE leadership (who are actually making this happen) feel it would be worthwhile to add ND, I'm not going to pitch a fit over losing our "purity." Purity and big time college sports are completely antithetical, however admirable the Thompsons may be in comparison to their peers.
Now, you're probably right that I'm conflating ND's massive national fanbase for their football team with support for their basketball team. But IF the C7 members and/or our network partners (slash saviors) FOX really really want ND for whatever reasons they feel are legit, and in the tiny chance they can convince ND to join up, I'm not going to have a problem with it.
But again, I think it's gonna be Creighton. Just please...not Richmond.
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Post by concord on Mar 1, 2013 10:45:55 GMT -5
Honestly, if the new Big East works at all, knowing Georgetown and watching DeGioia from afar, I could see us refusing to join a re-formed, hybrid ACC a few years from now even if we are invited. I agree, it just seems like we'd be asking to be ditched by Duke and Syracuse in another 5 years when Jim Delany gets another bright idea to make The Super Duper 32 Team Conference. At least in the BE, WE run the show and there's no better option for non-D1 football schools.
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Post by concord on Mar 1, 2013 10:44:14 GMT -5
The C7 leadership has delivered an incredible bounty to us over the past 6 months, I'm inclined to think they know what they're doing at this point. Yeah, I agree. Which is why I am confident they are not deluding themselves and wasting time with this fanciful ND nonsense. I totally reject the speculation that ND is in the plans at all. Its garbage because it is a horrible idea on so many levels. While I see why it wouldn't be a great idea for ND, which is why I don't think they will join us, why is it a horrible idea for the BE? Because they'll eventually leave and join the B10? Having ND in the fold would give our league more cache and sell a lot of tickets for conference games. Other than that we'd "look bad" if they later left, what is the downside of getting them to join up? (I fully recognize that there may be reasons I'm not thinking of, it's a serious question...)
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Post by concord on Mar 1, 2013 10:39:34 GMT -5
I would like to think the C7 leadership (us) are not so stupid as to offer ND a lifeline they will not accept. Lock Creighton in now. Screw ND. The C7 leadership has delivered an incredible bounty to us over the past 6 months, I'm inclined to think they know what they're doing at this point. Also, don't discount Fox's power in all this. We may be obliged to send up a trial balloon just because they want us to. For what they're paying us, I'm cool with it.
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Post by concord on Mar 1, 2013 10:35:53 GMT -5
I really think the only thing holding off an official Creighton invite is the possibility of enticing ND. Fox certainly wants at least 10 to begin with. What on earth makes you think ND would want to join the Big East in ALL SPORTS (not just hoops) for the long term over the ACC? Even with ACC football defections, what's left is a sexier, more lucrative, and much better ALL SPORTS league for ND...who has one of the best all around sports departments in the world. You have to stop thinking like BE "basketball is everything" fans. At ND football is everything...and basketball is just a first among equals in the rest of the department. Under no circumstance at all could ND be better served in the BE for non-fb than they would be in the ACC- even after a few fb defections. I think you're misreading my argument. I'm not saying "ND will join us!!" I'm saying the C7 are hoping ND will join us and at least giving it a shot before inviting Creighton. What I expect to happen is that ND will decline and then we'll add Creighton.
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Post by concord on Mar 1, 2013 10:23:49 GMT -5
I agree with nnb5. I see no need not to start with 10 teams next year. 9 just seems a little bush. B7 plus Butler, Xavier & Creighton packs a punch. Especially since it means BE 2.0 will be starting out with the BE 1.0 core and adding the cream of two other leagues, not just the A10. I really think the only thing holding off an official Creighton invite is the possibility of enticing ND. Fox certainly wants at least 10 to begin with.
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Post by concord on Mar 1, 2013 10:22:52 GMT -5
As bad as their football team is, Duke will always have more lucrative options than the BE to turn to, and they will never get rid of that program. ND ditching the ACC and joining the BE until such time as they decide to fully commit their FB to a conference (likely the B10) is a more plausible possibility.
My impression from the reporting is that the members of our BE have no reservations about adding football schools that are willing to stash their football somewhere else as long as they are otherwise a good fit...it's just that said football schools don't think it's a good enough deal to do so.
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Post by concord on Mar 1, 2013 10:04:41 GMT -5
As a product of Virginia Schools, I just say that U. of Richmond does NOT fit into this mix culturally or in sports. Much better to get VCU or even Old Dominion over Richmond. I think we need a Boston team, though. As a product of Boston, we definitely do not need a Boston team. Nobody cares about college hoops around here and the options are sub-Richmond.
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Post by concord on Mar 1, 2013 10:04:02 GMT -5
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Post by concord on Feb 25, 2013 16:46:04 GMT -5
put the team on his back a la greg jennings or otto last night Greg Jennings? Am I missing something?
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Post by concord on Dec 23, 2012 0:25:20 GMT -5
Can someone expalin why UMass is never mentioned in this discussion? Do they have a football program? I have alsways understood their fan base is large and very loyal. UMass basketball has been a non-entity in local sports discussions since Calipari fled town ahead of the posse. In general, very few people in New England care about local college sports with the exception of hockey -- this is why the UMass and UConn football quests have always seemed quixotic to me. As someone living here, I'd love to see UMass resurrecting their program in a league with Gtown, but if we're going to add a large public school, it should probably be VCU.
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Post by concord on Dec 20, 2012 11:40:12 GMT -5
Sorry my point is to say that there are differing opinions/views of this situation. I wonder when bloggers or media folk are reporting their info are they looking at all possibilities? Nobody knows where this is going except into the hands of lawyers. Here's what we do know: - Georgetown and the 6 other basketball-only schools are leaving the Big East. Of these, Georgetown is the clear linchpin, without which the other six schools were unable to take action. GU was also the most hesitant to make the break, and has the best brand value among the seven. This is emphasized by a photo of Nate Lubick dunking accompanying every media article on the breakaway.
- Aresco and the football schools are engaging in productive negotiations thus far over the existing league assets. A tentative deal may leave the basketball schools with the BE name and a multi-million dollar cut of units and exit fees apiece, if the negotiations proceed successfully.
- Once the split is made effective, possibly for 2014, the new BE will pick up some other private basketball schools. Xavier and Butler will likely be added immediately. A variety of other schools, local and national, private and public, football-playing and non-, are in the mix for further expansion.
- The football conference led by Aresco will attempt to survive by picking up Western football schools, with UConn and Cincy keeping one foot out the door at all times.
Here's what we don't know: - Will the new basketball-focused conference be able to pull in a TV contract approaching what we're accustomed to getting? (Hopefully...) If not, how bad will the fallout be for the GU basketball program and athletic department as a whole? (Probably pretty bad)
- Will the negotiations with Aresco and the football schools reach a successful conclusion? (Hopefully)
- Will the new conference be perceived as major or mid-major? And how will this perception affect our financial and recruiting prospects? (Hopefully major, but some of our allies need to raise their games ASAP)
- What schools will join beyond the 7 + X + Butler? Will the conference go national (probably via adding Gonzaga) or will it stay mostly east of the Mississippi?
- Will the conference championship tournament remain at MSG? (Probably?)
- How will our ticket sales fare as we trade large football-playing opponents for small private schools? (Outlook not rosy)
This is a high-risk maneuver being executed by the breakaway 7, but remaining in the Frankenstein football conference was also not without risk. This course of action clearly has a higher ceiling AND a lower floor. We can only watch and see how it turns out, continue to pull for the 2012-13 Hoyas and our future conference allies, and support our athletic department in getting the IAC built ASAP.
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Post by concord on Dec 19, 2012 22:27:42 GMT -5
It's Kentucky.
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