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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Mar 1, 2014 19:24:15 GMT -5
We've given up 70 points in 7 straight games. Only two of those games exceeded 65 possessions and none of them went over seventy. What the heck happened to our defense? Not sure, but never really understood how it was good in the first place. Slow footed and short guards, not a great rim protector (though Hopkins has been good at times), ok height, not much depth. Usually not the makings of a very good D. hm Exactly. Flying, flailing, and fouling is how we play d. Let's face it 3 guard set and no center for the Hoyas = lousy defense. We haven't figured out that there's no substitute for taking up space the way we play d. The Hoyas can get away with three guards with a big front line. They can get away with no center by going 6'8+ across the 3-5 spots. But you can't be small everywhere and play our crap zone. It just has too many holes.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Feb 28, 2014 15:26:33 GMT -5
The saddest part of all this purplefilms is that it took the fouling out of the game of 3 front court players in Hopper, Moses and Lubick to even get to the point of Hayes to see minutes..even now people are saying he got coached up the play well when just a few days ago they believed JTIII had Hayes nailed to the bench cause Hayes did not play well in practice... You can't have it both ways.. One day he his nailed to the bench cause of how he produces in practice, the next day he got coached up..that is why he is producing. Bottom line: I learned awhile ago..when you have a struggling team... You have to see what you have on the bench, nothing replaces in game experience. If Hayes is relegated back to being nailed to the bench again this season in favor of subpar front court play...I think him and his family should seriously discuss his future endeavors. So then the converse must be true, I guess - the staff is to blame for not playing him, AND his contributions last night had nothing to do with coaching, they are just a result of him getting a chance to play? Eh, I think you're both wrong. You can have it both ways. Developing Hayes is good coaching. Not playing him instead of a 6'5 former walk-on is bad coaching. JTIII does have the tendency to get an impression of a kid stuck in his head and nothing changes it. PE Jr. was playing 7-8 minutes a game until Egerson's transfer forced him to be Sixth Man of the Year. Nice that Ewing looked better than under Mike Davis, but not so nice that it took a catastrophe to get him out there. I'm sure Vern Macklin learned a lot from JTIII. But because we were bent on Dajuan Summers being a stretch 4 like Jeff (which he wasn't) he took that coaching to the Elite Eight for Billy D. The flip side is a guy like Lubick. 104 straight starts for a glue guy. Few senior leaders are anointed that as a freshman but he's one. For a guy with 13 double digit scoring efforts and 5 double-digit rebounding efforts in his career, that's a lot of starts. Hop is in that category as well. He could choke JTIII with his shoelaces and still get 12 minutes. So it's not so simple as to say Hayes isn't being coached. I'm sure he is being coached. I just think a lot of people think he's not being used properly for the actual purpose of helping us win basketball games short-term and long-term. You could say the same about Hop only for him the minutes would go the other way.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Feb 28, 2014 13:27:48 GMT -5
\It is a need - but behind the need for a big. Still have good hopes for Hayes, but no way to know how much he gives us next year. Hopkins, Hayes, Copeland, White, Moses, Smith. That’s a lot of players 6’9 and above. Dog, cat, mouse, table...that's a lot of things with four legs. Any Kentucky Derby winners? The only centers on that list are Smith and Hayes. One is fat in ineligible and the other is still a project. We need someone who can score with his back to the basket consistently and guard the post against the biggest players in the league. That's a center. 6'9 or taller is the JTIII definition of a center apparently but that doesn't make it true.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Feb 28, 2014 12:38:34 GMT -5
That's crazy. You act like this team has a host of bigs that are underplayed - the only player to see more time would have been Hayes. People are overrating Bradley Hayes based on a few minutes playing time - just like they overrated Vee Sanford and Jerelle Benimon based on a couple of baskets versus Syracuse when they were freshmen. I wasn't really talking about Hayes at all. III himself has alluded to the adjustment it took to dealing with Smith not being there when the team had prepared to play with him for most of the season. I think it is far from clear that the early season Josh Smith team was superior to the current team as it has developed since the Michigan State game. My point is that if the words "Josh Smith" had never been uttered by a Georgetown coach, player, or fan, there are very good reasons to believe this team would already have an NCAA ticket punched. Agree with Big Dog. Let's ask the question, what game don't we win if Josh isn't there first semester? I can't think of one. His best game was the first one against Oregon, a loss. So we wouldn't be worse playing without him all year and getting the rotation set. It would all be upside. Not to say we would definitely be better than 7-9, but it's hard to argue we'd be worse.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Feb 27, 2014 23:16:56 GMT -5
can they double Gardner please!! Exactly. We don't trust Hayes for 10 minutes against FIU but now JTIII trusts him straight up against their leading scorer? What?
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Feb 27, 2014 22:45:04 GMT -5
We are getting Bradleyed in a huge way right now.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Feb 27, 2014 22:25:59 GMT -5
How can Bowen have been in the program for years and still have absolutely no idea of how to play a zone. It doesn't even look like he knows what defense we're in. You know what's funny I actually think a lot our guys don't know what defense we're in. I like that we change it up to knock teams off balance, but it actually seems this group gets legitimately confused.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Feb 27, 2014 22:21:02 GMT -5
It was a tough stretch without him and he catches a good amount of flak on here but Trawick has really improved during this season in terms of his shooting. Free throws and from long range. More than that, I'm impressed with him passing out of drives that the normally tries to put up anyway. I'm not advocating jaw breaking or anything but give credit when it's due. I am advocating jaw breaking. It's like the kid from Rookie of the Year breaking his arm apparently.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Feb 27, 2014 21:42:36 GMT -5
Let me go on record as saying I like this pace. It allows our guards to do what they do best on offense. It also means more possessions therefore more chances for our big men to foul. Way more worried about our good players playing well than our terrible players needing to be replaced by slightly more terrible players. Have to play to win.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Feb 27, 2014 21:31:46 GMT -5
Let me go on record as saying I like this pace. It allows our guards to do what they do best on offense.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Feb 25, 2014 21:45:44 GMT -5
St. Johns is pretty much all about the BET. One top 50 win and only 5 top 100 wins. Best OOC win is San Francisco and best road-neutral win is at Providence. They're 2002 Georgetown. Regardless of standings, they're behind the other bubbles.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Feb 24, 2014 15:37:38 GMT -5
Agreed. I think if we can take out Marquette on Thursday I'm confident we can hang with Creighton at home and possibly even steal that one. However, I cant picture us beating Nova on the road. Is that game at Wells Fargo or the Pavilion? We usually play 'nova pretty close wherever the game, although admittedly this year the relative abilities of the two teams are a little more disparate than most years. How different is it than '05 or '09? If anything I think we have the gameplan to beat them we just can't have DSR go 0-6 from three again.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Feb 24, 2014 10:48:37 GMT -5
I mentioned this in another thread. Aaron Bowen has played his way ahead of Reggie at the 4. He's even 35% from three in conference play. So when we play small, Aaron is better on offense and defense. He'll get more minutes barring foul trouble.
No knock on Reggie, Aaron just took it from him.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Feb 24, 2014 9:19:49 GMT -5
2 wins and in. Basically, a .500 conference record and a 5-handle rpi gets us in.
Right now there are 45 potential at-large teams in the RPI top 60. You could get in with an RPI over 60 but you shouldn't push it.
To give you an idea of teams 41-60, the only team with at least 4 top 50 wins in that group (like the Hoyas) is Hoya victim Kansas State. The only team with a non-con SOS better than the Hoyas is North Dakota State (who will not get a bid with zero top 50 wins unless its automatic). Our road neutral is about average for that group at 5-8. So optically, having a .500 record plus the extra road win and top-50 win and I can't see us being out.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Feb 23, 2014 16:26:34 GMT -5
Completely different note. I've got Butler over Provvy tonight.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Feb 23, 2014 12:36:41 GMT -5
One thing to our advantage is the spacing of these games on the way out is just perfect. No reason for our guys to be unprepared or fatigued. Truly can go one game at a time.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Feb 22, 2014 23:06:27 GMT -5
Ok, putting it in this context I get you Jook97.. But you have to admit if Allen hit a 3 folks are gonna post about it.. guaranteed.. Maybe. But no one would actually care about it. With Hayes, we're hoping he can contribute at some point so the posting about Allen hitting a shot would be more in jest or "hey whaddya know" kind of posts. Hayes, likely, was expected to be hitting shots like that fairly regularly in spot minutes by this point in his career whereas we expect exactly nothing from Allen. So, at the least, the tenor of the posts would be completely different. If Allen hit a three, no one would be arguing their case with regard to more minutes for him and using that shot as evidence. Big difference. Allen is a walk-on at a position we're deep at. Hayes is a recruited, scholarship player at a position where we have nobody. Really, really big difference. Agreed neither garbage time shot matters, but comparing Hayes to Allen kind of shows why I don't blame Hayes if he's a little insulted. That's not in a diva way, more in a "then why recruit me" way.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Feb 22, 2014 22:24:34 GMT -5
he's still the 3rd best free throw shooter and 3rd best 3pt shooter on the team Actually, he barely played against the Johnnies. When the game was getting away from the Hoyas, I thought he should have been on the floor as we needed whatever offense he could have offered. Earlier on, it wouldn't have made sense to have him in as he'd get torched on D. When it became obvious that we weren't going to play much D, I thought it made sense to get him some minutes but I don't recall seeing him much at all. Lost in the roller coaster is that Aaron has been pretty consistent on offense for awhile. Dare I say it but Aaron at the 4 is probably our best lineup right now. At least we can force turnovers and run. So Reggie is probably going to lose some minutes in the short run since he now has someone ahead of him at the 3 and 4.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Feb 22, 2014 20:10:06 GMT -5
Let's keep it rolling. We have not been much of a road team, but we usually play tough ones @ Marquette. Play defense like today and limit turnovers and we can nudge ourselves back into the conversation. It kills me that we blew that lead to them. The thing is, the Hoyas had the lead because they're better than Marquette. Continue to be better.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Feb 22, 2014 16:05:01 GMT -5
I'm excited. We still have hope. We have to do what we're not good at it- beat a quality team on the road-to get in right now but that's life on the bubble.
At least the Hoyas kept themselves alive today.
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