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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Mar 22, 2014 12:30:43 GMT -5
The transfer help we need is Jenny Craig.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Mar 21, 2014 15:38:23 GMT -5
Calhoun is interested in the BC gig! But BC is interested in Amaker Sounds like a great fit. Amaker delusional he can coach in a major conference and BC delusional they didn't completely screw themselves moving to the ACC.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Mar 21, 2014 15:06:01 GMT -5
The difference is Duke always has a roster of HS All-Americans and future NBA players and they play a style that beats up weak teams during the regular season. But when they get to the tournament and come up against guards who don't turn the ball over they can be scored on and they can be turned into a 3-dependent team. They have lottery-pick forwards Jabari Parker and Rodney Hood, yet Duke attempted 37 threes today against Mercer. Not Michigan State. Not Louisville. Mercer. And that is why when the Lakers came calling, Coach K said "No thanks. I'll stay in my unfair advantage league."
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Mar 21, 2014 14:24:24 GMT -5
On a serious note, how great would it be if Josh got serious about his game? Look at how much different Duke is without Plumlee in the paint. They can (and did) lose to anyone.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Mar 21, 2014 13:47:08 GMT -5
These first weekend exits are proof he's not a good tournament coach. When you mix those first round losses in with a national championship or four, it becomes a bit more palatable. Predictable to compare Duke's two upset losses in the past 4 years but call me back when that streak reaches five straight tournament appearances. I appreciate Duke trying to take the heat off Georgetown for biggest tournament choker in recent memory but Georgetown still wins in a walk. 4th one and done for K in 34 years. One was an 8-9 game. It's a ridiculous comparison. Everyone knows it. It's just fun to say.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Mar 21, 2014 10:20:08 GMT -5
To add to what MCI said, DSR's offensive efficiency is near the top for the John Thompson III era. Obviously, offensive efficiency does not tell the whole story, but it clearly shows DSR is one of the best players (and probably the best guard) John Thompson III has ever had. 2006: Hibbert - 120.9 2007: Green - 114.4, Hibbert - 130.8, Wallace - 119.7 2008: Hibbert - 118.8, Wallace - 121.8 2009: Freeman - 115.2 2010: Freeman - 119.8 2011: Freeman - 116.7 2012: Porter - 117.5 2013: Porter - 118.8 2014: DSR - 120.9 Clearly, Hibbert's 2007 season was off the charts, but DSR's 2014 is better than nearly all these other players. For what its worth, Wallace used a lot fewer possessions than DSR, which makes DSR's numbers even more impressive. For me, you can argue with Freeman on pure scoring. But the rest of their games, DSR beats Free. He's already a better defender. He's a better passer on a team with nobody to pass to. The rebounding is no contest. In the JTIII era, only Jessie Sapp might be able to compete for the top spot as a rebounding guard. And it's the traffic rebounding and late game rebounding for a guy who plays so many minutes and so many hard minutes that separates DSR.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Mar 20, 2014 21:36:18 GMT -5
And another upset in the 5-12 bracket, as North Dakota State takes down Oklahoma in overtime, 80-75. Who else had this one called right? I'll raise my hand. I accidentally watched NDSU previously and they're pretty impressive. I didn't pick them next round but they could win that one too.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Mar 20, 2014 19:45:26 GMT -5
I read it as "not having advanced past the Sweet 16." You read it right. Cincy was just in the Sweet 16 a couple years ago. It's Elite Eight or better they're referring to. But it's a sneaky way to make it sound worse by inexplicably using the previous round as the reference point.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Mar 20, 2014 7:16:55 GMT -5
This is actually a tougher game than the one Xavier had two days ago to start its offseason. So it's a real game. You pretty much play a first round NCAA game 5 times to win the NIT. Practice makes perfect Hoyas.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Mar 19, 2014 15:16:52 GMT -5
Thinking about DSR's possible transition to play PG/Combo in the NBA, he does have a pretty nice Euro step and a great midrange/close game. Rebounds above his size. Really just needs to get his assists numbers up a little, which he has the opportunity to if most of next year's talent step up, and he could have a shot. Even if he doesn't he'll have a long career overseas. I think he needs to become dedicated to defense. If he can guard NBA guards, there's definitely a place for him.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Mar 19, 2014 12:17:59 GMT -5
Hood also has Parker, Cook, Sulaimon and a few other offensive threats on his team. DSR has Markel and that is it. His numbers are likely skewed a bit. It is like looking at Evan Turners numbers when he was on the Sixers. They stunk so he had to be the man. That actually makes DSR's numbers more impressive. He is scoring at the same efficiency as Hood even though Hood almost certainly gets more open shots and does not have to work as hard as hard as DSR to get shots because Hood is not the primary focus of the defense. Josh please learn to love salad and books(or alarm clocks)! I can't even imagine an inside out game with DSR.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Mar 19, 2014 10:30:27 GMT -5
What I think this also shows is how the NBA buzz can affect NCAA perceptions. I'm not sure how many people outside the Big East really know DSR and that he will be a "surprising" player on the national stage next year. I think people think he's good but without NBA scouts drooling or "Duke" on his uniform they don't get how good.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Mar 19, 2014 9:05:06 GMT -5
I thought I remember them beating their opponent to make it & we did not.. I just pulled it & see where IU beat them! If you can find Knight's presser after that game, a reporter asked him what he thought of Shaq. Knight said "Which one was he?" And of course everyone laughs. To his credit, the reporter says "The big one." It's pretty classic Knight.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Mar 18, 2014 19:49:07 GMT -5
This is truly fascinating and a great way to isolate our hacktastic big men.
Especially interesting is that the guys who played with Otto really didn't foul all that differently without him. So as great as Otto's foul rate was, his presence didn't really help or hurt other guys. I definitely would have thought there would be more of an impact. But our foul issues were almost entirely guys who were new to the rotation. Good stuff... well good bad stuff.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Mar 18, 2014 19:20:09 GMT -5
Game over. Hop scored. We'll win.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Mar 18, 2014 18:56:54 GMT -5
Moses- you do not need to guard a big guy at 20 feet. Stay inside and GUARD THE FREAKING HOOP! You do if he may or may not be a Fat Albert character.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Mar 18, 2014 9:17:01 GMT -5
That’s your standard, not the entire basketball worlds standard. It appears you want to avoid the question but in my eyes if you’re predicted to be a top 40 team and you end up a top 15 team that’s over achieving. You can’t put your casual fan standard on JT2 whose been around the game forever and might view things differently than you. Nova was predicted to finish 5th in the BE and was unranked preseason. They lost 5 games total won the BE running away and where a top 5 team for the majority of the season. They didn’t overachieve this season? Or do I have to wait until the postseason to say this because winning the BE outright for the first time in 30 years is meaningless? That's not my standard. That is actually the standard of the 99% fans of college bball. Like GIGA pointed out, people will remember our final four season beating vandy and UNC rather than losing to old dominion. If you happen to be in the 1% of the fan base along with Bmartin, I suspect you either work for JT3 or part of Thompson's family. Pre-season ranking do not mean a crap. Kentucky this year with unproven freshmen started the season #1 and was expected easily to win its conference. Now they are unranked. Does anybody here believe they underachieved? More like they should not have been there at the first place. For your last point, depending on how Nova fares. If they lose to 15th seed AU to end the season, the majority of fan base will evaluate that they underachieved. And that's just how it is. Personally, I'd like to believe the process matters more than the end-result, but that's just not how our world is evaluated, especially in the U.S. and especially about sport. And let's face it JTIII, Tom Crean, Shaka Smart, Jim Larranega... nobody seems to have a problem with this standard when one run quadruples their salary. When they get heat for not performing in the tourney, suddenly it's not the only way they should be judged.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Mar 17, 2014 17:31:21 GMT -5
If your main memory of Roy Hibbert's senior season is his 5th foul against Davidson, I pity you. You must feel miserable about a lot of things. Things don't always work out the way we think they should. Thanks for the pity. Quick what's your first memory of 2007? If you didn't say Jeff beating Vandy or the Hoyas rolling UNC, I bet you're in the minority. Your season is written in the tourney for good or bad. Not in an academic way, but in an emotional way. It's why none of Jason Clark's 1000+ points are as memorable as Nat Burton's two and Rich's subsequent lid blowing.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Mar 17, 2014 15:44:32 GMT -5
I thought the point was more that if for example you ask someone about the Hoyas in 2008 they would say "Steph Curry and Davidson." The Roy three to beat UConn is a pretty awesome regular season moment. Getting our asses handed to us by Pitt is a pretty lousy BET moment.
But really as time goes by the enduring memory of that season will be Roy's fifth foul and wanting to choke slam anyone singing Sweet Caroline. It's just the nature of the tourney. No moment is bigger than that moment you're out and when it's too soon, it really really sucks.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Mar 17, 2014 11:50:09 GMT -5
The FGCU loss was bad and diminishes the season but the 14-4 Big East season, the wins over Syracuse and Louisville, Otto's performances, are still part of the record. To say they don't count for anything because the team didn't make the Sweet 16 is just stupid. This thought process is 100% correct for our world as G'town fans Bmartin but it doesn't play very well when you're talking to fans of other programs.. I live in CT so obviously many of my friends, co-workers, neighbors ect. are Uconn fans who torture me with the choke label relentlessly.. I also have a cousin who's a Florida alum and he's harder to deal with than Uconn fans!! I agree with your thoughts on this but I have to admit I fully get where Cosmo & others are coming from too.. Being a G'town fan can be rough these days.. Haha Exactly. Remember that sense of pure joy you felt when Syracuse lost to Richmond? Consecutive losses to end their regular season championship year? Well its like that in reverse. I bet no Hoya fan said "Great job by Boeheim. I can't get down on him about this marvelous year he had." I bet there were slightly more colorful words, hands gestures, and references to Jimmy B's November championships.
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