Head Coach Discussion

[Z]

He's done a lot of good things at Georgetown, and I have a lot of respect for him, but it's time to move on. Season-ending losses to inferior teams year after year after year just aren't acceptable. I will not contribute another dime to this program until he is gone, and will encourage other donors to do the same.


Stay within the rules. --Admin

[johnnysnowplow]

O here we go...

[TC]

Yay! The annual carousel of guys who post once a year calling for the coach's head!

[Z]

I'm just stating an opinion that I know others on this board share, but may feel compelled to obfuscate with long-winded, equivocal posts which drive at the same thing without saying it. This should be a place where we can discuss the coach and potential replacements. If that runs afoul of a HoyaTalk rule, my deepest apologies.

[Z]

Admin, just saw your reply - noted.

[williambraskyiii]

John R. Thompson Intercollegiate Athletic Center.

[blueandgray]

Mar 13, 2014 12:04:57 GMT -5 Z said:

He's done a lot of good things at Georgetown, and I have a lot of respect for him, but it's time to move on. Season-ending losses to inferior teams year after year after year just aren't acceptable. I will not contribute another dime to this program until he is gone, and will encourage other donors to do the same.


Stay within the rules. --Admin

If you don't contribute another dime does that mean you won't post anymore?? If so, I'm all for it.

[guru]

Mar 13, 2014 12:11:35 GMT -5 Z said:

I'm just stating an opinion that I know others on this board share, but may feel compelled to obfuscate with long-winded, equivocal posts which drive at the same thing without saying it. This should be a place where we can discuss the coach and potential replacements. If that runs afoul of a HoyaTalk rule, my deepest apologies.

I don't agree with your premise, but go ahead and post all you want about it. For better or worse, it's an unrealistic, hopeless pursuit. But by all means knock yourself out.

[HometownHoya]

JTIII is on the hot seat. I'm sure everyone, himself included, are not happy with the recent results. He has taken steps to fix the problems, even going away from the offense that he knows. But lets wait to see what he does with this strong recruiting class before we call for his job.

[aleutianhoya]

Mar 13, 2014 12:11:35 GMT -5 Z said:

I'm just stating an opinion that I know others on this board share, but may feel compelled to obfuscate with long-winded, equivocal posts which drive at the same thing without saying it. This should be a place where we can discuss the coach and potential replacements. If that runs afoul of a HoyaTalk rule, my deepest apologies.

If anyone agrees, by all means jump on board. I think you will find yours is a distinct minority opinion. What you call obfuscation others call nuance. I am quite pleased overall with Coach's performance over his tenure.

[johnnysnowplow]

Mar 13, 2014 12:31:50 GMT -5 HometownHoya said:

JTIII is on the hot seat. I'm sure everyone, himself included, are not happy with the recent results. He has taken steps to fix the problems, even going away from the offense that he knows. But lets wait to see what he does with this strong recruiting class before we call for his job.

The only hot seat JTIII is on is the heated seat in whatever luxury car he drives. As far as job security, he may as well be sitting on a block of ice.

[strummer8526]

Mar 13, 2014 12:34:55 GMT -5 aleutianhoya said:

Mar 13, 2014 12:11:35 GMT -5 Z said:

I'm just stating an opinion that I know others on this board share, but may feel compelled to obfuscate with long-winded, equivocal posts which drive at the same thing without saying it. This should be a place where we can discuss the coach and potential replacements. If that runs afoul of a HoyaTalk rule, my deepest apologies.

If anyone agrees, by all means jump on board. I think you will find yours is a distinct minority opinion. What you call obfuscation others call nuance. I am quite pleased overall with Coach's performance over his tenure.

Yeah, I'm as annoyed as anyone right now and think that III has done a lot of things wrong over the last few years. But I still think he's the one who should and will right this ship.

[Z]

So the prevailing view on this board continues to be that JTIII has an essentially guaranteed HC job through the end of his dad's life, and any discussion that questions this arrangement is futile and should be scorned?

That's a pretty unbelievable state of affairs.

[HometownHoya]

Mar 13, 2014 12:36:18 GMT -5 johnnysnowplow said:

Mar 13, 2014 12:31:50 GMT -5 HometownHoya said:

JTIII is on the hot seat. I'm sure everyone, himself included, are not happy with the recent results. He has taken steps to fix the problems, even going away from the offense that he knows. But lets wait to see what he does with this strong recruiting class before we call for his job.

The only hot seat JTIII is on is the heated seat in whatever luxury car he drives. As far as job security, he may as well be sitting on a block of ice.

How can you say he is not on a hot seat? Is he not being pressured to perform better? I'm not saying that it is on fire and he needs to leave but I'm sure even his father gave him a piece of his mind last night. Just look at the game thread, if even a tenth of the people calling for his head have any influence then his seat is hotter then it was a year ago. He needs to improve but I do agree that he has tons of job security, a coaching change is something that will not happen for a few years of similar results as this year at least.

[Deleted]

Mar 13, 2014 12:40:17 GMT -5 Z said:

So the prevailing view on this board continues to be that JTIII has an essentially guaranteed HC job through the end of his dad's life, and any discussion that questions this arrangement is futile and should be scorned?

That's a pretty unbelievable state of affairs.

I don’t believe he should be fired regardless of who his father is. That is my position

[johnnysnowplow]

Mar 13, 2014 12:40:51 GMT -5 HometownHoya said:

Mar 13, 2014 12:36:18 GMT -5 johnnysnowplow said:

The only hot seat JTIII is on is the heated seat in whatever luxury car he drives. As far as job security, he may as well be sitting on a block of ice.

How can you say he is not on a hot seat? Is he not being pressured to perform better? I'm not saying that it is on fire and he needs to leave but I'm sure even his father gave him a piece of his mind last night. Just look at the game thread, if even a tenth of the people calling for his head have any influence then his seat is hotter then it was a year ago. He needs to improve but I do agree that he has tons of job security, a coaching change is something that will not happen for a few years of similar results as this year at least.

Being on the hot seat implies that there is a reasonable chance a coach will lose his job in the near future for any variety of reasons. There is literally 0% chance that JTIII will lose his job in the near future. It might even be a negative percentage. His job is beyond secure.

[njhoya78]

I don't think that the prevailing view on the board is that JT3 is guaranteed to be the head coach in perpetuity. However, your thesis that the sole measure of the program's success is how the Hoyas finish their season is unbelievable in its own way. And as for last night, I can't say that we lost to an inferior team.

[aleutianhoya]

Mar 13, 2014 12:40:17 GMT -5 Z said:

So the prevailing view on this board continues to be that JTIII has an essentially guaranteed HC job through the end of his dad's life, and any discussion that questions this arrangement is futile and should be scorned?

That's a pretty unbelievable state of affairs.

No. I think a handful would favor a new direction with a subset of that group believing it never will occur. A slightly larger but still minority believe his performance has been recently poor and he should be on notice of a need to turn it around. A plurality believe that , overall, he has done a good job, notwithstanding the postseason issues.

[HometownHoya]

Mar 13, 2014 12:45:41 GMT -5 johnnysnowplow said:

Mar 13, 2014 12:40:51 GMT -5 HometownHoya said:

How can you say he is not on a hot seat? Is he not being pressured to perform better? I'm not saying that it is on fire and he needs to leave but I'm sure even his father gave him a piece of his mind last night. Just look at the game thread, if even a tenth of the people calling for his head have any influence then his seat is hotter then it was a year ago. He needs to improve but I do agree that he has tons of job security, a coaching change is something that will not happen for a few years of similar results as this year at least.

Being on the hot seat implies that there is a reasonable chance a coach will lose his job in the near future for any variety of reasons. There is literally 0% chance that JTIII will lose his job in the near future. It might even be a negative percentage. His job is beyond secure.

Different definitions of hot seat then, I just don't think that it is black and white. Agree to disagree.

[EtomicB]

Mar 13, 2014 12:42:39 GMT -5 @yaboynyp said:

Mar 13, 2014 12:40:17 GMT -5 Z said:

So the prevailing view on this board continues to be that JTIII has an essentially guaranteed HC job through the end of his dad's life, and any discussion that questions this arrangement is futile and should be scorned?

That's a pretty unbelievable state of affairs.

I don’t believe he should be fired regardless of who his father is. That is my position

I agree he shouldn't be fired but he does need to reevaluate how he goes about doing his job.. No matter how you look at it something is broken..

When I read his quotes after the game I get mad all over again, it's like he's not honest with himself or the team..

www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/georgetown-ousted-from-big-east-in-first-round-by-depaul-60-56/2014/03/13/3813b828-aa62-11e3-9e82-8064fcd31b5b_story.html


"I just told them what time we’re getting on the bus,” Hoyas Coach John Thompson III said when asked what he told his players in the locker room and if the NCAA tournament was discussed. “The tournament, we’ll see. You’ve seen and heard what we’ve done. It’s kind of hard to sit and talk about that following this loss. We’ll see. I don’t know how things look after today.”

I get that he wants to keep everything in house but how hard would it have been to say "I can't repeat what I said in public" or something along those lines. I know that these losses hurt him and I wish he would show it more.. The 2nd quote is worse! The simple answer is "we don't deserve to be in the tourney".

The fact that Jabril still thinks they should be in makes me wonder what they're being told by the staff..

I also think he needs to shake them up more often.. Depauls 1st score was a coast to coast uncontested layup, JT3 should have called a TO and lit his team up after that play!

JT3 is the coach I want but I do want to see some growth in how he coaches & prepares his teams..