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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 30, 2023 12:07:55 GMT -5
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 9, 2023 23:25:10 GMT -5
Ed Cooley loves Georgetown. It doesn't make much sense on the surface but he was a Georgetown fan, reveres JT Jr, sent his daughter here - the guy loves Georgetown. I don't think he'd leave, but everyone always asks the 'why would he ever leave?' question - it's because Georgetown means something to him. It's not lateral job ____. A couple of points that I want to mention (and I'm sorry if others have posted this recently, I'm not catching up on the past 2 years of HoyaTalk tonight). Ed Cooley was the only other coach to attend the Thompson Athletic Center groundbreaking in person. wearegeorgetown.com/reflections-on-the-thompson-center-groundbreaking/"Coach Ed Cooley from Providence joined in the festivities" Ed Cooley was not on one of the planes that crashed on 9/11 in part because John Thompson Jr convinced Brandon Bowman to commit to Georgetown. theathletic.com/515471/2018/09/11/one-day-away-ed-cooley-9-11-and-the-recruit-who-saved-his-life/www.si.com/college/2018/09/11/ed-cooley-john-thompson-brandon-bowman-9-11-flights-recruiting-trip“It’s got to be an act of God because Cooley is one of my favorites in coaching,” Thompson says. “All that connecting makes me feel even better because I like him. Tell him he owes me.” It certainly seems like the Georgetown program and the Thompson legacy means something to Cooley. I'm not saying he would definitely take the job, but as was said above there's more to it than other programs.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 9, 2023 21:25:56 GMT -5
I get it, we suck. We've sucked for a while. This is still a Top 20 job in many many peoples eyes. There will be/has been no shortage of interest in it. This is no longer a Top 20 job to anyone under the age of 45. Two NCAA wins since 2008 (!) does not make a top job in 2023. . Can it be? Yes. But not now. Younger fans look at Georgetown the same way they see UNLV. Good thing most of the coaching candidates are over the age of 45!
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Post by LCPolo18 on Jan 8, 2023 0:48:14 GMT -5
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Post by LCPolo18 on Dec 13, 2022 14:33:58 GMT -5
Per the NCAA: The APR is calculated as follows:
Each student-athlete receiving athletically related financial aid earns one point for staying in school and one point for being academically eligible.
A team’s total points are divided by points possible and then multiplied by 1,000 to equal the team’s Academic Progress Rate.
In addition to a team’s current-year APR, its rolling four-year APR is also used to determine accountability.
The 917 is a four year average which was significantly depressed by an 860 in 2020-21. The looming problem is that, as a four year average, the 860 remains in the calculation for the next three seasons and the 2021-22 exits were even greater than those the year before. If and when the NCAA resumes APR penalties, Georgetown is at risk. www.ncaa.org/sports/2015/5/19/academic-progress-rate-explained.aspxYou can back into the number of guys who lost eligibility pretty easily. 860 is 43/50 x 1000 -- 13 players means 52 points available, but Jalen Harris doesn't come back after the Christmas break, hence the denominator is reduced by two 50-43 means you lost 7 points along the way J Harris, Wahab, Sibley, Berger leave -- that's 4 points lost on "staying in school" So you still need 3 more points lost for being academically ineligible... I've been estimating the APR calculation for a few years now. Since I don't match *exactly* to the official APR, my estimates have to be taken with a grain of salt, but I'm pretty close so they are directionally correct. docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bi428DMp9b7LoQypU60H_IA7HSRTWGfbT9Ni3fWtXwM/edit#gid=0The biggest issue in my mind with the 2020-2021 score is that schools can get relief from transfers if they apply for it. If a player transfers out in good academic standing and goes to another 4 years school, then the school can get a blank instead of a zero. This reduces the denominator which helps the overall score. There's no way to get a score as low as 860 if the school had gotten those waivers. And given that the school/conference advertised that most/all of the players were on the academic honors list for the conference, then it would be hard to assume that these players were not in good academic standing. So the potential answer is that Georgetown didn't request those waivers. Maybe they can do it in hindsight before APR penalties start back up, but otherwise that 860 could really haunt the program. And that's not even taking into consideration all of the transfers after 2022.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Jun 9, 2022 12:43:46 GMT -5
Back in the days of Big John, trading cards with Hoyas were produced for use by DC cops, who gave them away to kids as a way of starting friendly conversations. No cards were sold, so there were no NCAA violations. This was still happening from 2001-2005 at least. The Athletics Department would get boxes of cards for each individual player and the pep band would help out by organizing the cards into rubber banded team packs to be given out to the kids.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Apr 9, 2022 11:55:41 GMT -5
Derrickson (as others have noted with the wrong name), Yurtseven, and Pickett were added in the last couple of months. Which means that the program now considers 2 way contracts as counting towards the NBA jersey wall. By my count, I believe the only players that are still in group 4 are Churchwell and Wright. Yurt7 has a full time contract. Yes, I am aware of Yurtseven’s contract status. I wrote two different sentences. One saying which players were recently added. And one saying what policy must have changed given some of the players that were added.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Apr 8, 2022 14:17:09 GMT -5
I may be wrong about this - I'm just going by what Austin has tweeted recently, but whose NBA jersey do they refuse to hang on the wall? This isn't "oops" stuff or a coincedence. Given that the public isn't even allowed on that floor of the building, it's largely left to anecdotal accounts, but from past discussions the jerseys not on that wall include the following: 1. Nine NBA jerseys of Georgetown players who played prior to 1972. 2. One ABA jersey prior to 1972 (OK, it's a very obscure reference.) 3. Transfers (Jones, Tucker, Turner, Macklin, Benimon, Whittington, McClung) 4. Limited contracts (Wright, Derrickson, Pickett) Adding McClung and Pickett this year, there should be 49, and it's nowhere close to that. www.hoyabasketball.com/history/nba.htmDerrickson (as others have noted with the wrong name), Yurtseven, and Pickett were added in the last couple of months. Which means that the program now considers 2 way contracts as counting towards the NBA jersey wall. By my count, I believe the only players that are still in group 4 are Churchwell and Wright.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 31, 2022 16:21:27 GMT -5
Jon Rothstein @jonrothstein Ohio transfer Mark Sears is receiving interest from the following programs, per his AAU coach Scott Whittle: Auburn LSU Alabama Ole Miss Texas Creighton Miami WVU Florida Notre Dame Georgetown South Carolina Samford Appalachian State We seem to be reaching out to a lot of players that didn't go/commit to LSU for it to be a done deal that Nickleberry is delivering the LSU studs. Mark Sears is a scoring PG. None of the former LSU players that the Hoyas have been linked to play that position.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 31, 2022 14:09:58 GMT -5
Jon Rothstein @jonrothstein
Ohio transfer Mark Sears is receiving interest from the following programs, per his AAU coach Scott Whittle:
Auburn LSU Alabama Ole Miss Texas Creighton Miami WVU Florida Notre Dame Georgetown South Carolina Samford Appalachian State
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 31, 2022 14:06:38 GMT -5
Wayne Bristol Jr. - 6’6”, 205 - Sr.. (extra eligibility?) - no idea but I think others were pretty high on him? Strong shooting? Help here appreciated. Besides reputation as a shooter, I remember someone quoting Holloway as saying he was the team's best defender, as soon as he started practicing with GU. He is NOT a Senior. He was the 2019-20 MEAC Rookie of the Year at Howard. He shot 40% ftom 3 his frosh year. (RJ Cole was also MEAC ROY before transferring to UConn after his sophomore year). IIRC, Bristol missed 2020-21 season due to injury and may have 3 years eligibility left but is unclear as he joined the Hoyas mid-season. Bristol should have at least 3 years of eligibility left (not sure how the COVID extra year would count for him). However, next year will be his fourth year in college, so I wouldn't be surprised if Georgetown lists him next year as a senior regardless of eligibility since they seem to not list players based on eligibility.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 25, 2022 22:11:41 GMT -5
Was one of the assistant this year considered the "recruiting coordinator"? I am sure the title is not a big deal, but I never got the sense that any one of the assistance was really in charge of the recruiting efforts of the other assistants. It does make sense to have someone leading that initiative and making sure they are all coordinated and have a consistent message, kind of a like a sales manager keeping all the salesmen at a company on point. I would assume a lot of the major programs have a "recruiting coordinator" position/title for one of the assistants. I hope he is as billed and can bring in more talent, especially some local talent. I don't believe Georgetown has officially recognized anyone on staff with the title of "recruiting coordinator" since I started following the program 21 years ago. Other programs often have either an assistant that is denoted as the "recruiting coordinator" or another staff person that simply has that title or the title of the "director of recruiting". For example, this season Jordan Brooks wasn't an assistant coach at Xavier, but he was their Director of Recruiting.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 25, 2022 10:41:57 GMT -5
A four year college coaching veteran, Straughn (32), has spent the last three years at St. Joseph's University. The season before that he was also an assistant, this time with Loyola (MD).
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 24, 2022 9:47:13 GMT -5
The wiretaps were in 2017 (after Kirby left), and they were reported in March 2019. Then LSU added the out clause to Wade's contract. Then Nickelberry was hired in July 2019. Yes, if someone believes that LSU was still dirty from 2019-2022, Nickelberry was part of that. But based on the timeline, he was not part of the major issues. Does anyone believe LSU was clean 2019-2022? I don't think anyone on this board believed that until maybe 5 minutes ago when they had to start defending Kevin Nickelberry. Probably not, I was just correcting your earlier statements that didn't align with the timeline of the wiretap issues.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 24, 2022 9:24:53 GMT -5
Is that who you were hearing or will there be 2 hires today? That's who I was hearing about earlier this morning.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 24, 2022 9:23:47 GMT -5
So Wade gets caught on tape... school says clean it up (or at least get cleaner)... school hires Nickelberry... and he's the baddie? Meanwhile the guy who was at LSU during the uncovered incidents was an assistant at GU for the last 5 years and... barely a peep? Wade got caught on tape AND it was reported in 2019, Nickelberry was working there then, the school keeps Wade as the head coach for 3 years anyway because the violations don't really ethically matter to LSU - they only care about the ability to fire Wade and not owe him money. He finally gets charged with violations and they can fire him for cause in 2022. The wiretaps were in 2017 (after Kirby left), and they were reported in March 2019. Then LSU added the out clause to Wade's contract. Then Nickelberry was hired in July 2019. Yes, if someone believes that LSU was still dirty from 2019-2022, Nickelberry was part of that. But based on the timeline, he was not part of the major issues.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 24, 2022 8:59:18 GMT -5
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 24, 2022 8:26:45 GMT -5
If what I'm hearing is true, I'm pretty excited about the hire.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 24, 2022 8:26:21 GMT -5
Sounds like one of the "new names" on my original list is being announced today.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 24, 2022 8:22:20 GMT -5
If what I'm hearing is true, I'm pretty excited about the hire.
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