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Post by jydhoya on Aug 31, 2021 13:10:50 GMT -5
I realize that NIL is being discussed in a few different threads (e.g. "Transfer Portal, Player Payment, NIL", plus a number of recruiting threads) but i think it's too big of a topic not to have a thread solely dedicated to it. This is a once-in-a-generation shift in the college bball landscape. There will be winners and losers. Early movers will benefit because they'll have a track record/ROI to show recruits (even if it's not the school itself showing the information to the recruits, the information will undoubtedly flow). It seems that schools with large, local alumni bases may be better positioned to outperform in this environment, but that is just gut initial instinct. As many have mentioned, hopefully, we have had a swat/swot team dedicated to this issue (compliance, biz dev, branding, etc) for several months now, working within the loose guidelines that exist. However, i worry that we may be taking more of a "wait and see" approach. I don't mean that as a knock on Ewing & staff but more on what I'm guessing (total speculation) will likely be the University's desire to play it very safe in this new environment until there are more distinguishable guidelines. Personally, I think we are going to shoot ourselves in the foot if we play it too safe, potentially losing out on a couple years worth of top recruits just as we have some momentum building on that front. Don't get me wrong. I don't think we should be breaking rules, but i also don't think we should entirely be avoiding the "grey" that exists due to the legislative/administrative bodies themselves failing to create concrete definition. Examples of Questions For Board/Those With More Insight: - What are the specific guidelines of what the schools can/can't do?
- -What can/can't alumni (and/or business owners) do to support players getting NIL deals?
- -Are player alumni and current players allowed to cross-promote image/likeness (e.g. Iverson & Top Pg Recruit splitting profit on NFTs)?
- Anybody with insight as to how Georgetown, the University, is managing NIL from a compliance standpoint?
- Anybody with insight as to what Georgetown, the Program, is doing (w/in allowable boundaries) to position itself to excel in this new environment?
- Does this change our approach to recruiting?
- -Outside of Memphis/Fedex, what are people hearing about other programs and how they're playing within these new rules?
- -Can we compete for top-50 recruits? If so, how?
- -If not, then what's our strategy and how do we maximize coaching staff resources?
- Creative ideas for local (or national) business owners to leverage Georgetown players' image/likeness?
- Etc
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Post by jydhoya on Aug 31, 2021 13:29:42 GMT -5
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Post by HometownHoya on Sept 1, 2021 12:44:55 GMT -5
One bonus is that Jack DeGioia looks to is a member (and current chair) of the NCAA Board of Governors so he'll have a first eye view of the NIL ongoings.
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Post by professorhoya on Sept 1, 2021 13:06:58 GMT -5
As Livingston said, Washington, D.C has big potential for NIL.
I do think alot of it will be tied to winning though in a big city. The upside is huge in the big Big East cities (more so than college towns) but it's all tied to winning because of the competition with pro sports teams and multiple universities.
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Post by whipple on Sept 1, 2021 13:08:15 GMT -5
I had to dig out my old password for this one--good to be back on HT. This is my best guess based on weeks and weeks of personal research (I am an attorney, this is not legal advice)
What are the specific guidelines of what the schools can/can't do? --no promises of pay to play, cannot promise or facilitate deals -What can/can't alumni (and/or business owners) do to support players getting NIL deals? --no pay to play, no pay based on performance -Are player alumni and current players allowed to cross-promote image/likeness (e.g. Iverson & Top Pg Recruit splitting profit on NFTs)? --could make this work, can't be contingent on his commitment/play Anybody with insight as to how Georgetown, the University, is managing NIL from a compliance standpoint? --working up to the limits they feel are allowed. Livingston was impressed with their discussion of potential opportunities. several alumni involved (I just posted our plan on Casual). Anybody with insight as to what Georgetown, the Program, is doing (w/in allowable boundaries) to position itself to excel in this new environment? --they have a couple guys in AD office with NIL as a focus. Does this change our approach to recruiting? --certainly used for Livingston per his interviews -Outside of Memphis/Fedex, what are people hearing about other programs and how they're playing within these new rules? --power 5 football is leading the way. needs to be facilitated separately from the school/coaches. some schools using outside apps to help link. some schools (UNC) trying to create pool licensing, but that likely doesn't help the 5-star athletes -Can we compete for top-50 recruits? If so, how? --the key appears to be maximizing exposure. being a star in DC may be sellable. show we're an open fanbase and promote our athletes. need a couple big/visible contracts to help pace the way. -If not, then what's our strategy and how do we maximize coaching staff resources? --Ewing was a stud for promos back in the day and has an eye for it. Creative ideas for local (or national) business owners to leverage Georgetown players' image/likeness? --I laid out my plan on casual. i'm all ears for more. i like the NFT ideas.
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Post by professorhoya on Sept 1, 2021 13:24:51 GMT -5
I had to dig out my old password for this one--good to be back on HT. This is my best guess based on weeks and weeks of personal research (I am an attorney, this is not legal advice) --I laid out my plan on casual. i'm all ears for more. i like the NFT ideas.Link?
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Post by gojeffgoroyunder7 on Sept 1, 2021 13:25:31 GMT -5
I had to dig out my old password for this one--good to be back on HT. This is my best guess based on weeks and weeks of personal research (I am an attorney, this is not legal advice) What are the specific guidelines of what the schools can/can't do? --no promises of pay to play, cannot promise or facilitate deals -What can/can't alumni (and/or business owners) do to support players getting NIL deals? --no pay to play, no pay based on performance -Are player alumni and current players allowed to cross-promote image/likeness (e.g. Iverson & Top Pg Recruit splitting profit on NFTs)? --could make this work, can't be contingent on his commitment/playAnybody with insight as to how Georgetown, the University, is managing NIL from a compliance standpoint? --working up to the limits they feel are allowed. Livingston was impressed with their discussion of potential opportunities. several alumni involved (I just posted our plan on Casual).Anybody with insight as to what Georgetown, the Program, is doing (w/in allowable boundaries) to position itself to excel in this new environment? --they have a couple guys in AD office with NIL as a focus. Does this change our approach to recruiting? --certainly used for Livingston per his interviews -Outside of Memphis/Fedex, what are people hearing about other programs and how they're playing within these new rules? --power 5 football is leading the way. needs to be facilitated separately from the school/coaches. some schools using outside apps to help link. some schools (UNC) trying to create pool licensing, but that likely doesn't help the 5-star athletes -Can we compete for top-50 recruits? If so, how? --the key appears to be maximizing exposure. being a star in DC may be sellable. show we're an open fanbase and promote our athletes. need a couple big/visible contracts to help pace the way. -If not, then what's our strategy and how do we maximize coaching staff resources? --Ewing was a stud for promos back in the day and has an eye for it. Creative ideas for local (or national) business owners to leverage Georgetown players' image/likeness? --I laid out my plan on casual. i'm all ears for more. i like the NFT ideas.Where in the NCAA's NIL policy does it say that schools are prohibited from facilitating NIL deals? Some states/schools prohibit this, but not the NCAA.
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Post by HometownHoya on Sept 1, 2021 13:26:30 GMT -5
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Post by DudeSlade on Sept 1, 2021 16:30:50 GMT -5
Personally, when this started I was totally prepared for the NIL deals that worked like the creator/influencer economy but ported to sports -- sponsorships or NFTs or even for the biggest names doing branded products (think Kim Kardashian starting her own lines). (There's a business: small batch whitelabel manufacturing of products for player NIL - every college star could have their own branded shoe/hat/bag/mug/etc. that their ~100 avid fans buy.) I know I should have been expecting it, but I wasn't expecting the type of NIL deals where they just announce publicly they'll support a whole team or anyone that would take it. Really not caring about their actual name, image, likeness, and whether they can actually promote your brand (does the 85th guy on the football team really cause anyone to purchase a product?) and more just caring about the team they play for. Really naive of me, but I just didn't expect the public announcement of these types of deals. A couple stood out to me: Miami: www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/miami-booster-offers-540000-nil-endorsement-deal-to-all-hurricanes-scholarship-football-players/Miami booster is universally offering any football player $500 monthly ($6k/year) to promote his MMA gym -- spending potentially $540k on it. BYU: www.si.com/college/2021/08/12/byu-football-nil-deal-walk-on-tuition-built-barA BYU booster has offered deals to all BYU football players, but specifically says he'll pay the full tuition of all walk-ons. My question: what's the difference then between a walk-on and scholarship player? What's the point to a scholarship limit then? May not matter for BYU, but what about that 86th player that Alabama wanted? Why not have him walk-on and get it all covered still? How about 20 other walk-ons? Kids can transfer easily now, so the risk/reward to a player of possibly making it at Alabama vs. going to a lesser ranked program could be worth it. I'm not necessarily against this -- really don't know enough what the impact will be, but it's clear the NCAA didn't think (or didn't care) much about these sort of things. For Georgetown basketball, it's only about 15 players, so it would seem fairly easy to do this. Casual Hoya (as whipple laid out) offered their deal to every kid. I like that they are trying to facilitate this for the players assuming they have the kids best interest in mind, as it seems. Focusing on DC businesses seems to make sense, but could other Georgetown-founded/run companies jump in too? Sweetgreen? Luke's Lobster? Spindrift? (why are so many in food?) I'm sure there's a bunch of others - probably needs to be privately held companies. Could guys like Frank McCourt or Ted Leonsis do NIL deals with the players or are they too connected to the school? Maybe some of our hedge fund, private equity, VC alums really think a player's NIL is going to help their business? Just saying, we have deeper pockets than Miami and BYU booster bros. NIL is here whether we like it or not, would seem worth it to get good at it.
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Post by whipple on Sept 1, 2021 17:01:30 GMT -5
I had to dig out my old password for this one--good to be back on HT. This is my best guess based on weeks and weeks of personal research (I am an attorney, this is not legal advice) What are the specific guidelines of what the schools can/can't do? --no promises of pay to play, cannot promise or facilitate deals -What can/can't alumni (and/or business owners) do to support players getting NIL deals? --no pay to play, no pay based on performance -Are player alumni and current players allowed to cross-promote image/likeness (e.g. Iverson & Top Pg Recruit splitting profit on NFTs)? --could make this work, can't be contingent on his commitment/playAnybody with insight as to how Georgetown, the University, is managing NIL from a compliance standpoint? --working up to the limits they feel are allowed. Livingston was impressed with their discussion of potential opportunities. several alumni involved (I just posted our plan on Casual).Anybody with insight as to what Georgetown, the Program, is doing (w/in allowable boundaries) to position itself to excel in this new environment? --they have a couple guys in AD office with NIL as a focus. Does this change our approach to recruiting? --certainly used for Livingston per his interviews -Outside of Memphis/Fedex, what are people hearing about other programs and how they're playing within these new rules? --power 5 football is leading the way. needs to be facilitated separately from the school/coaches. some schools using outside apps to help link. some schools (UNC) trying to create pool licensing, but that likely doesn't help the 5-star athletes -Can we compete for top-50 recruits? If so, how? --the key appears to be maximizing exposure. being a star in DC may be sellable. show we're an open fanbase and promote our athletes. need a couple big/visible contracts to help pace the way. -If not, then what's our strategy and how do we maximize coaching staff resources? --Ewing was a stud for promos back in the day and has an eye for it. Creative ideas for local (or national) business owners to leverage Georgetown players' image/likeness? --I laid out my plan on casual. i'm all ears for more. i like the NFT ideas.Where in the NCAA's NIL policy does it say that schools are prohibited from facilitating NIL deals? Some states/schools prohibit this, but not the NCAA. Valid point. You can decide for yourself if an institution offering NIL counts as inducement or contingent use of NIL. I’m not sure it’s inherently a violation, but promises on a recruiting trip sure seem to cross the line. www.ncaa.org/about/taking-action"Malik S. Jackson, a sports attorney with Jacksonville-based Smith Hulsey & Busey, counsels clients on NIL compensation matters. In an email to On3 on Thursday, Jackson said he would think Bates and his family and advisors had conducted a valuation of NIL opportunities before Bates chose to attend Memphis. “The trick will be ensuring that institutions and their agents are not singling out providers of NIL opportunities to a degree that implicates coordination by an institution and the NIL provider to secure NIL rights from a player,” Jackson wrote in his email. “Notably, if a coach or a school appears to be promoting particular NIL providers or suggesting particular NIL opportunities, this may be deemed too close of a relationship and coordination in the eyes of different regulatory bodies.”" www.on3.com/news/memphis-basketball-nil-marketplace-emoni-bates-jalen-durden-penny-hardaway/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
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Post by EtomicB on Sept 1, 2021 17:58:39 GMT -5
Personally, when this started I was totally prepared for the NIL deals that worked like the creator/influencer economy but ported to sports -- sponsorships or NFTs or even for the biggest names doing branded products (think Kim Kardashian starting her own lines). (There's a business: small batch whitelabel manufacturing of products for player NIL - every college star could have their own branded shoe/hat/bag/mug/etc. that their ~100 avid fans buy.) I know I should have been expecting it, but I wasn't expecting the type of NIL deals where they just announce publicly they'll support a whole team or anyone that would take it. Really not caring about their actual name, image, likeness, and whether they can actually promote your brand (does the 85th guy on the football team really cause anyone to purchase a product?) and more just caring about the team they play for. Really naive of me, but I just didn't expect the public announcement of these types of deals. A couple stood out to me: Miami: www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/miami-booster-offers-540000-nil-endorsement-deal-to-all-hurricanes-scholarship-football-players/Miami booster is universally offering any football player $500 monthly ($6k/year) to promote his MMA gym -- spending potentially $540k on it. BYU: www.si.com/college/2021/08/12/byu-football-nil-deal-walk-on-tuition-built-barA BYU booster has offered deals to all BYU football players, but specifically says he'll pay the full tuition of all walk-ons. My question: what's the difference then between a walk-on and scholarship player? What's the point to a scholarship limit then? May not matter for BYU, but what about that 86th player that Alabama wanted? Why not have him walk-on and get it all covered still? How about 20 other walk-ons? Kids can transfer easily now, so the risk/reward to a player of possibly making it at Alabama vs. going to a lesser ranked program could be worth it. I'm not necessarily against this -- really don't know enough what the impact will be, but it's clear the NCAA didn't think (or didn't care) much about these sort of things. For Georgetown basketball, it's only about 15 players, so it would seem fairly easy to do this. Casual Hoya (as whipple laid out) offered their deal to every kid. I like that they are trying to facilitate this for the players assuming they have the kids best interest in mind, as it seems. Focusing on DC businesses seems to make sense, but could other Georgetown-founded/run companies jump in too? Sweetgreen? Luke's Lobster? Spindrift? (why are so many in food?) I'm sure there's a bunch of others - probably needs to be privately held companies. Could guys like Frank McCourt or Ted Leonsis do NIL deals with the players or are they too connected to the school? Maybe some of our hedge fund, private equity, VC alums really think a player's NIL is going to help their business? Just saying, we have deeper pockets than Miami and BYU booster bros. NIL is here whether we like it or not, would seem worth it to get good at it. What if the 85th player has thousands of followers on social media?
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Post by gojeffgoroyunder7 on Sept 1, 2021 21:08:36 GMT -5
Where in the NCAA's NIL policy does it say that schools are prohibited from facilitating NIL deals? Some states/schools prohibit this, but not the NCAA. Valid point. You can decide for yourself if an institution offering NIL counts as inducement or contingent use of NIL. I’m not sure it’s inherently a violation, but promises on a recruiting trip sure seem to cross the line. www.ncaa.org/about/taking-action"Malik S. Jackson, a sports attorney with Jacksonville-based Smith Hulsey & Busey, counsels clients on NIL compensation matters. In an email to On3 on Thursday, Jackson said he would think Bates and his family and advisors had conducted a valuation of NIL opportunities before Bates chose to attend Memphis. “The trick will be ensuring that institutions and their agents are not singling out providers of NIL opportunities to a degree that implicates coordination by an institution and the NIL provider to secure NIL rights from a player,” Jackson wrote in his email. “Notably, if a coach or a school appears to be promoting particular NIL providers or suggesting particular NIL opportunities, this may be deemed too close of a relationship and coordination in the eyes of different regulatory bodies.”" www.on3.com/news/memphis-basketball-nil-marketplace-emoni-bates-jalen-durden-penny-hardaway/amp/?__twitter_impression=trueYea, they can 100% facilitate -- and many schools have done this for their student athletes, and quite publicly because they know it's not a violation (see Ohio State, UNC). Anyway, great post on casual!
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Post by DudeSlade on Sept 1, 2021 23:16:16 GMT -5
Personally, when this started I was totally prepared for the NIL deals that worked like the creator/influencer economy but ported to sports -- sponsorships or NFTs or even for the biggest names doing branded products (think Kim Kardashian starting her own lines). (There's a business: small batch whitelabel manufacturing of products for player NIL - every college star could have their own branded shoe/hat/bag/mug/etc. that their ~100 avid fans buy.) I know I should have been expecting it, but I wasn't expecting the type of NIL deals where they just announce publicly they'll support a whole team or anyone that would take it. Really not caring about their actual name, image, likeness, and whether they can actually promote your brand (does the 85th guy on the football team really cause anyone to purchase a product?) and more just caring about the team they play for. Really naive of me, but I just didn't expect the public announcement of these types of deals. A couple stood out to me: Miami: www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/miami-booster-offers-540000-nil-endorsement-deal-to-all-hurricanes-scholarship-football-players/Miami booster is universally offering any football player $500 monthly ($6k/year) to promote his MMA gym -- spending potentially $540k on it. BYU: www.si.com/college/2021/08/12/byu-football-nil-deal-walk-on-tuition-built-barA BYU booster has offered deals to all BYU football players, but specifically says he'll pay the full tuition of all walk-ons. My question: what's the difference then between a walk-on and scholarship player? What's the point to a scholarship limit then? May not matter for BYU, but what about that 86th player that Alabama wanted? Why not have him walk-on and get it all covered still? How about 20 other walk-ons? Kids can transfer easily now, so the risk/reward to a player of possibly making it at Alabama vs. going to a lesser ranked program could be worth it. I'm not necessarily against this -- really don't know enough what the impact will be, but it's clear the NCAA didn't think (or didn't care) much about these sort of things. For Georgetown basketball, it's only about 15 players, so it would seem fairly easy to do this. Casual Hoya (as whipple laid out) offered their deal to every kid. I like that they are trying to facilitate this for the players assuming they have the kids best interest in mind, as it seems. Focusing on DC businesses seems to make sense, but could other Georgetown-founded/run companies jump in too? Sweetgreen? Luke's Lobster? Spindrift? (why are so many in food?) I'm sure there's a bunch of others - probably needs to be privately held companies. Could guys like Frank McCourt or Ted Leonsis do NIL deals with the players or are they too connected to the school? Maybe some of our hedge fund, private equity, VC alums really think a player's NIL is going to help their business? Just saying, we have deeper pockets than Miami and BYU booster bros. NIL is here whether we like it or not, would seem worth it to get good at it. What if the 85th player has thousands of followers on social media? Haha! You are absolutely right. There’s bound to be a player in some program who is the last dude on the bench but the first in social media hearts. I just expected way more going to the stars (on the court or on social media) than the average player. But it seems the first instincts were to get everyone paid, not just the stars. Suppose that could be viewed as good or bad.
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Post by seaweed on Sept 1, 2021 23:42:56 GMT -5
Those SOBs on the Monmouth bench and that clown from DePaul will get NIL deals
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Post by jydhoya on Sept 3, 2021 6:56:04 GMT -5
I had to dig out my old password for this one--good to be back on HT. This is my best guess based on weeks and weeks of personal research (I am an attorney, this is not legal advice) What are the specific guidelines of what the schools can/can't do? --no promises of pay to play, cannot promise or facilitate deals -What can/can't alumni (and/or business owners) do to support players getting NIL deals? --no pay to play, no pay based on performance -Are player alumni and current players allowed to cross-promote image/likeness (e.g. Iverson & Top Pg Recruit splitting profit on NFTs)? --could make this work, can't be contingent on his commitment/playAnybody with insight as to how Georgetown, the University, is managing NIL from a compliance standpoint? --working up to the limits they feel are allowed. Livingston was impressed with their discussion of potential opportunities. several alumni involved (I just posted our plan on Casual).Anybody with insight as to what Georgetown, the Program, is doing (w/in allowable boundaries) to position itself to excel in this new environment? --they have a couple guys in AD office with NIL as a focus. Does this change our approach to recruiting? --certainly used for Livingston per his interviews -Outside of Memphis/Fedex, what are people hearing about other programs and how they're playing within these new rules? --power 5 football is leading the way. needs to be facilitated separately from the school/coaches. some schools using outside apps to help link. some schools (UNC) trying to create pool licensing, but that likely doesn't help the 5-star athletes -Can we compete for top-50 recruits? If so, how? --the key appears to be maximizing exposure. being a star in DC may be sellable. show we're an open fanbase and promote our athletes. need a couple big/visible contracts to help pace the way. -If not, then what's our strategy and how do we maximize coaching staff resources? --Ewing was a stud for promos back in the day and has an eye for it. Creative ideas for local (or national) business owners to leverage Georgetown players' image/likeness? --I laid out my plan on casual. i'm all ears for more. i like the NFT ideas.Whipple, thanks for dusting off the password to share your knowledge/insights. Really helpful and interesting stuff. And love some of the concepts in the link. I read in the Livingston thread about the DC/NIL pitch. I don’t doubt that there are opportunities DC presents that are unique (and potentially more powerful) than the likes of Memphis, TN or Lexington, KY (no knock on those places, but DC a bigger overall commerce market) but i think it’s really going to require a lot of significant alumni/gtown community activity and creativity to make it happen and put it on the radar of companies for which it’ll make sense in terms of a marketing campaign & spend. You take a place like Miami and NIL is probably already part of the regular lexicon down there amongst alumni. I have a feeling that they’re probably going to have a pretty good set of recruiting classes coming up as a result (ie a guaranteed $6k/year thru Yummy as a min starting point is probably a compelling pitch for basketball players ranked in the 100-250 range; and just knowing the community is all over the issue/opportunity is also probably a compelling sell for those and higher ranked kids.....as an aside, I hope FBI is keeping an eye on Yummy). By contrast, I’d bet 98% of Georgetown alumni have never even heard the acronym “NIL” (or, at least, don’t have a grasp of its significance in big time college sports). Again, not to say that there isnt a big opportunity for the DC & Hoya community to present financial/NIL opportunities to the players in a “above board” manner but the community needs to be all over it to make it successful and, outside of a few examples like yourself, I fear we’re trailing several months behind some of these other schools in pushing it and creating the necessary ecosystem for it to be a success with our programs. Huge thanks again for sharing your insights on this; and great Casual Hoya post/article.
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Post by SSHoya on Sept 4, 2021 3:47:19 GMT -5
The doomsday scenario preached by shortsighted NCAA officials was that NIL would be ruinous. It would disillusion a public in love with “amateurism,” poison team chemistry, tank smaller schools and leave obscure athletes and minor sports unfunded while a handful of NFL-bound stars in power conferences commandeered megadeals. The exact opposite has happened. Brands are showing strong attraction to all kinds of aspirational kids you never heard of, in all kinds of surprising and pleasant places. www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2021/09/03/college-athletics-nil-ncaa-endorsements/
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Post by jwp91 on Sept 4, 2021 5:01:37 GMT -5
The doomsday scenario preached by shortsighted NCAA officials was that NIL would be ruinous. It would disillusion a public in love with “amateurism,” poison team chemistry, tank smaller schools and leave obscure athletes and minor sports unfunded while a handful of NFL-bound stars in power conferences commandeered megadeals. The exact opposite has happened. Brands are showing strong attraction to all kinds of aspirational kids you never heard of, in all kinds of surprising and pleasant places. www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2021/09/03/college-athletics-nil-ncaa-endorsements/And Desantis had already declared victory against COVID. Much too early for this article.
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Post by calhoya on Sept 4, 2021 6:43:49 GMT -5
Maybe a dumb question but can a business enter into an agreement with the athletes and their coach? I am wondering if a deal could exist that includes both Hoya players and Ewing?
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Post by bigelephant on Sept 4, 2021 8:41:26 GMT -5
Maybe a dumb question but can a business enter into an agreement with the athletes and their coach? I am wondering if a deal could exist that includes both Hoya players and Ewing? Maybe.
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Post by EtomicB on Sept 4, 2021 8:58:39 GMT -5
The doomsday scenario preached by shortsighted NCAA officials was that NIL would be ruinous. It would disillusion a public in love with “amateurism,” poison team chemistry, tank smaller schools and leave obscure athletes and minor sports unfunded while a handful of NFL-bound stars in power conferences commandeered megadeals. The exact opposite has happened. Brands are showing strong attraction to all kinds of aspirational kids you never heard of, in all kinds of surprising and pleasant places. www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2021/09/03/college-athletics-nil-ncaa-endorsements/And Desantis had already declared victory against COVID. Much too early for this article. But we all knew DeSantis was lying, just as we knew the NCAA was lying about why allowing kids to make money off their likeness would ruin HM sports any more than it already is or was... This quote from the article is exactly why I posed the question to DudeSlade earlier in this thread “Where social media is democratizing is that you can have an offensive lineman or a safety or a special teams ace, or what if you’re the 12th man at Texas A&M who’s not necessarily the star player but is somebody who will get a heck of a lot of attention,” Pace says. “In all of those categories, college students are really a wonderful group of high performance and high-profile succeeders who are really great from a brand ambassador and influencer standpoint. We’re probably all underestimating the size of the market to be honest. Who wouldn’t want to work with them, right?”Will there be bumps in the road? Of course but any system that allows for players to get access to their earning power is a good one in my view... As this relates to Gtown, the program will need to step up because I'd bet a nice chunk of change that Nova, Xavier, Butler, Uconn etc already have plans in place for the NIL...
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