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Post by the_way on Jan 28, 2014 9:01:41 GMT -5
Great effort. Times are tough, but the tough get going. We are taking our lumps, but the guys haven't backed down. We are fighting and competing to the very end against some good teams. These teams are earning their victories against us. We aren't giving anything to them.
In terms of effort, this team has been one of the most consistent teams JTIII has had here. The effort is outstanding.
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Post by RockawayHoya on Jan 28, 2014 9:16:09 GMT -5
Despite the outcome, a big thanks to the fans (both students and alums) for their support last night. Provided a great atmosphere and really provided a boost to our guys when a lot of other things just weren't going our way. The students have been a plus the last 2 home games after a slow start, and I hope to see that kind of support at the remaining home games.
Disappointed cause we played well enough to win last night. Just needed a little bit more from DSR, but he's obviously not 100% and he was enough of a gamer to fight through whatever was bothering him, so can't really get on him for that. Bell pretty much had to hit everything down the stretch to keep us from taking the lead late, and he did. Credit goes to him.
Refs missed just about every call they possibly could (without the benefit of a monitor) last night. Obvious calls where players are reaching from behind not whistled, tiny little hand checks 30 feet from the basket apparently worse than sin. It continues to amaze me how our guys (especially the guards) continue to draw contact on their drives to the hoop and rarely see the FT line, while the opposition nearly always gets the benefit of the doubt. No doubt that the refs whistled Nova for some pretty questionable fouls too, but that was not a game where the FT disparity should have been 28-9. I thought we played aggressively on offense and didn't settle for jumpers all night like we have in some recent games. We weren't rewarded for it and JTIII needs to figure out why. The courteous discussions he's had with officials this year are clearly not getting it done.
Nice to have Jabril back. He wasn't much of a factor on offense, but you could clearly see the benefits of not only having another ball handler to counteract the press, but it really kept Markel (especially) and DSR fresher late in the game, where we have faded miserably during the last few weeks. Can't help but think what if had him for the SHU and Marquette games.
Also a big bounce back game from Nate. He was terrible the last few weeks, but really contributed last night, especially on the boards. Also liked what I saw for the most part from Hop, Bowen and Cameron. On a usual DSR-like shooting night, their contributions would have been good enough for a win. Hopefully the three of them continue to put together some consistency as we progress towards the end of the year.
And for the people who have been screaming for Domingo and Hayes to get minutes, I hope last night puts an end to that for the time being. Both looked completely lost again, and it's not debatable. Both will need to spend the upcoming offseason looking themselves in the mirror and deciding whether or not they want to put in the time to remain viable D-1 players at the high-major level, because if they don't, the writing's already on the wall.
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Post by strummer8526 on Jan 28, 2014 9:21:56 GMT -5
Question: When there are enough students on the non-band side to fill all the way back to the level behind the walkway, such that students are getting mad and arguing with the ushers about trying to push closer, why doesn't some Verizon employee with a shred of common sense go over to the band side and remove the tarps that cover about 60 premium student section seats?
I guess the problems with in-game adjustments extend to the venue staff.
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Post by GUJook97 on Jan 28, 2014 9:43:33 GMT -5
Yeah, Coach has pretty much ticked off a response to every complaint we've had  He is even calling too many time outs now! He called that one where Starks scored on a drive. He played Hayes and Domingo. He played Caprio and he benched Caprio. He played Cameron more. He played Mosed more. He played Lubick less. He complained to the refs about fouls during and after the game. Are people now satisfied that there is pretty much nothing more JTIII can do to make this team a tourney team? It's up to the players. |
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Post by prhoya on Jan 28, 2014 9:50:18 GMT -5
Yeah, Coach has pretty much ticked off a response to every complaint we've had He is even calling too many time outs now! He called that one where Starks scored on a drive. He played Hayes and Domingo. He played Caprio and he benched Caprio. He played Cameron more. He played Mosed more. He played Lubick less. He complained to the refs about fouls during and after the game. Are people now satisfied that there is pretty much nothing more JTIII can do to make this team a tourney team? It's up to the players. On the contrary, we played much better yesterday (and without Moses) than the previous games. There wasn't another "that's the worst half I've seen comment" yesterday. I like it going into February. Keep trying the combinations. We could've won that game against the #9 team. |
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jan 28, 2014 10:48:50 GMT -5
While Dhall comments appear to be harsh given the effort that we have seen both last night and on Saturday. i do hope they are not directed at the program. It would be so easy for players and staff to pack it in. That hasn't happened and given what we have seen i don't think we will. actually wished we had a little more of this over the last few years. I will agree with Dhall if his points are directed at the board. The lovein after a 5 point loss at home makes us look like those teams mentioned. I'm sure the staff is not providing much in the way of compliments and moving forward to prepare for MSU with full expectations of beating them. If not we have real problems. They are even sillier directed at the fanbase. When you are supportive, give positive feedback and don't degrade every action that doesn't meet the ultimate goal, that doesn't discourage people from striving harder. There seems to be a belief amongst many sports fans that if the fans don't constantly remind everyone of extremely high standards, then the administration, the staff and the players will simply not try. As if they have no goals of their own. And as if those goals need to be repeated as nauseam or smaller wins need to be denigrated just to make sure everyone knows that it ultimately isn't good enough. People don't flourish in that environment. They don't improve. Simply saying "it isn't good enough" doesn't make the players play better or try harder. Watching them improve at things and never letting them experience any sense of accomplishment doesn't make them any better. The players and the coach know the ultimate goal; I also hope they have meetable goals for this season. Something to work towards; small wins to celebrate; steps to get to the tourney. That's how you keep people motivated in a losing streak, especially when they are getting better but the competition is strong and they can't catch a break. This is pretty basic modern management philosophy, and if it can apply to mature adults getting paid to do work, it can apply to college kids. And if this is true for the coaches, it's doubly, triply, quadruply true for the fanbase. There's absolutely no evidence that anyone involved with the program is happy with this. This season is not normal for the program. The program pays its coaches well, is breaking ground on new facilities, is on the road every day recruiting (seriously, so much I'm wondering if its hurting our play) and the team itself, despite setback after setback, has played much better the last two games. The idea that we're going to transform into Depaul because people can see an upward trend and are willing to be supportive is kind of ridiculous. And while I imagine few players and coaches come on here either way, I sincerely hope that people do continue to be positive and cheer and support the team at the Verizon center, where it will likely make a difference. |
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Post by Filo on Jan 28, 2014 10:57:27 GMT -5
While Dhall comments appear to be harsh given the effort that we have seen both last night and on Saturday. i do hope they are not directed at the program. It would be so easy for players and staff to pack it in. That hasn't happened and given what we have seen i don't think we will. actually wished we had a little more of this over the last few years. I will agree with Dhall if his points are directed at the board. The lovein after a 5 point loss at home makes us look like those teams mentioned. I'm sure the staff is not providing much in the way of compliments and moving forward to prepare for MSU with full expectations of beating them. If not we have real problems. They are even sillier directed at the fanbase. When you are supportive, give positive feedback and don't degrade every action that doesn't meet the ultimate goal, that doesn't discourage people from striving harder. There seems to be a belief amongst many sports fans that if the fans don't constantly remind everyone of extremely high standards, then the administration, the staff and the players will simply not try. As if they have no goals of their own. And as if those goals need to be repeated as nauseam or smaller wins need to be denigrated just to make sure everyone knows that it ultimately isn't good enough. People don't flourish in that environment. They don't improve. Simply saying "it isn't good enough" doesn't make the players play better or try harder. Watching them improve at things and never letting them experience any sense of accomplishment doesn't make them any better. The players and the coach know the ultimate goal; I also hope they have meetable goals for this season. Something to work towards; small wins to celebrate; steps to get to the tourney. That's how you keep people motivated in a losing streak, especially when they are getting better but the competition is strong and they can't catch a break. This is pretty basic modern management philosophy, and if it can apply to mature adults getting paid to do work, it can apply to college kids. And if this is true for the coaches, it's doubly, triply, quadruply true for the fanbase. There's absolutely no evidence that anyone involved with the program is happy with this. This season is not normal for the program. The program pays its coaches well, is breaking ground on new facilities, is on the road every day recruiting (seriously, so much I'm wondering if its hurting our play) and the team itself, despite setback after setback, has played much better the last two games. The idea that we're going to transform into Depaul because people can see an upward trend and are willing to be supportive is kind of ridiculous. And while I imagine few players and coaches come on here either way, I sincerely hope that people do continue to be positive and cheer and support the team at the Verizon center, where it will likely make a difference. Thanks for that. Dead on. Some of the stuff posted on here is just mind-melting in its absurdity. Yes, the "love-in" over the team's effort in the face of some ridiculous adversity means that we are all complacent and happy with the season. Oh no, we are now Depaul and Seton Hall. Frickin' ludicrous. Although I don't think that was Sleepy's main point, which seems to me to be that there is absolutely no suggestion that the coaching staff and the team are defeatist. |
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Post by joey0403p on Jan 28, 2014 11:24:35 GMT -5
I hate blaming refs normally. But so much has gone wrong for us this year with injuries suspensions broken bones etc. I do t care about being of anymore We NEEDED homecoming. Stupid refs give out a ton of fouls and fts to them. I'm sorry it's bs! If those ft numbers are even? We win I thnk. Is it possible this is just the karma gods? We've had a lot of wins I. The sat ten ish years. ? 1 then this would be better next year. 2 our NCAA fortune should swim too. Right? Right? Is this an abstract poem? Or have you been drinking? I award 15 lichoyas to this post. Let our NCAA fortunes SWIM!!! I hadn't been drinking but was on my iPad and the autocorrect got me pretty bad. Haha Home cooking... I do appreciate the Lichoyas points. Haha |
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Post by hoyainspirit on Jan 28, 2014 11:37:32 GMT -5
I hate blaming refs normally. But so much has gone wrong for us this year with injuries suspensions broken bones etc. I do t care about being of anymore We NEEDED homecoming. Stupid refs give out a ton of fouls and fts to them. I'm sorry it's bs! If those ft numbers are even? We win I thnk. Is it possible this is just the karma gods? We've had a lot of wins I. The sat ten ish years. ? 1 then this would be better next year. 2 our NCAA fortune should swim too. Right? Right? Is this an abstract poem? Or have you been drinking? I award 15 lichoyas to this post. Let our NCAA fortunes SWIM!!!  |
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Post by Buckets on Jan 28, 2014 11:51:39 GMT -5
Goddammit this team is just like 08-09. They're going to be competitive in every game and just have no idea how to win. That's a horrible analogy. That team couldn't win because they game up at the first hint of adversity. This team fights and fights and just comes up a bit short and generally being hampered by circumstances outside their control. That team came back from down 10 inside the last media timeout in Syracuse to force overtime and won at tenth-ranked Villanova on one of the last days of the season when it looked like they could still salvage a tournament bid. "Gave up at the first hint of adversity" seems a little harsh. This year's team has already blown games in which they held at one time a 90%, 95%, and 98% win probability. They're not giving up, they just have a terrible time executing down the stretch and actually winning games. A lot of times this turns into a self-fulfilling prophecy, which I hope won't but think may happen with this team. Part of that problem is that both teams lacked a go-to guy offensively. Decisions are a lot easier and chemistry tends to be a lot better when everybody agrees the ball's going into Porter's or Freeman's hands for better or worse. One difference between this team and that team is definitely the attitude of the board toward guys trying to step up and fill that role. If this was 08-09 and somebody on that team launched a 30-footer with 7 seconds left on the shot clock in a 3-point game, there would be a ten-page thread depending on who launched about how either (1) Sapp and Wright don't trust each other and can't function together in the backcourt or (2) how Summers should just declare for the NBA right now, sign an agent, and leave the team. |
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Post by dreamhoya on Jan 28, 2014 12:04:44 GMT -5
Despite the outcome, a big thanks to the fans (both students and alums) for their support last night. Provided a great atmosphere and really provided a boost to our guys when a lot of other things just weren't going our way. The students have been a plus the last 2 home games after a slow start, and I hope to see that kind of support at the remaining home games. Disappointed cause we played well enough to win last night. Just needed a little bit more from DSR, but he's obviously not 100% and he was enough of a gamer to fight through whatever was bothering him, so can't really get on him for that. Bell pretty much had to hit everything down the stretch to keep us from taking the lead late, and he did. Credit goes to him. Refs missed just about every call they possibly could (without the benefit of a monitor) last night. Obvious calls where players are reaching from behind not whistled, tiny little hand checks 30 feet from the basket apparently worse than sin. It continues to amaze me how our guys (especially the guards) continue to draw contact on their drives to the hoop and rarely see the FT line, while the opposition nearly always gets the benefit of the doubt. No doubt that the refs whistled Nova for some pretty questionable fouls too, but that was not a game where the FT disparity should have been 28-9. I thought we played aggressively on offense and didn't settle for jumpers all night like we have in some recent games. We weren't rewarded for it and JTIII needs to figure out why. The courteous discussions he's had with officials this year are clearly not getting it done. Nice to have Jabril back. He wasn't much of a factor on offense, but you could clearly see the benefits of not only having another ball handler to counteract the press, but it really kept Markel (especially) and DSR fresher late in the game, where we have faded miserably during the last few weeks. Can't help but think what if had him for the SHU and Marquette games. Also a big bounce back game from Nate. He was terrible the last few weeks, but really contributed last night, especially on the boards. Also liked what I saw for the most part from Hop, Bowen and Cameron. On a usual DSR-like shooting night, their contributions would have been good enough for a win. Hopefully the three of them continue to put together some consistency as we progress towards the end of the year. And for the people who have been screaming for Domingo and Hayes to get minutes, I hope last night puts an end to that for the time being. Both looked completely lost again, and it's not debatable. Both will need to spend the upcoming offseason looking themselves in the mirror and deciding whether or not they want to put in the time to remain viable D-1 players at the high-major level, because if they don't, the writing's already on the wall. Just KNEW someone would bring it up; nobody said they'd be world beaters or that they'd make a difference, the point is that Hayes and Domingo should be given the opportunity to play in spots and to get better. Heck, Cameron's getting more comfortable.... Question is why are they lost when they've gotten out there? Pretty much bet that JTIII will either not play them next game. |
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Post by Dhall on Jan 28, 2014 12:07:58 GMT -5
While Dhall comments appear to be harsh given the effort that we have seen both last night and on Saturday. i do hope they are not directed at the program. It would be so easy for players and staff to pack it in. That hasn't happened and given what we have seen i don't think we will. actually wished we had a little more of this over the last few years. I will agree with Dhall if his points are directed at the board. The lovein after a 5 point loss at home makes us look like those teams mentioned. I'm sure the staff is not providing much in the way of compliments and moving forward to prepare for MSU with full expectations of beating them. If not we have real problems. They are even sillier directed at the fanbase. When you are supportive, give positive feedback and don't degrade every action that doesn't meet the ultimate goal, that doesn't discourage people from striving harder. There seems to be a belief amongst many sports fans that if the fans don't constantly remind everyone of extremely high standards, then the administration, the staff and the players will simply not try. As if they have no goals of their own. And as if those goals need to be repeated as nauseam or smaller wins need to be denigrated just to make sure everyone knows that it ultimately isn't good enough. People don't flourish in that environment. They don't improve. Simply saying "it isn't good enough" doesn't make the players play better or try harder. Watching them improve at things and never letting them experience any sense of accomplishment doesn't make them any better. The players and the coach know the ultimate goal; I also hope they have meetable goals for this season. Something to work towards; small wins to celebrate; steps to get to the tourney. That's how you keep people motivated in a losing streak, especially when they are getting better but the competition is strong and they can't catch a break. This is pretty basic modern management philosophy, and if it can apply to mature adults getting paid to do work, it can apply to college kids. And if this is true for the coaches, it's doubly, triply, quadruply true for the fanbase. There's absolutely no evidence that anyone involved with the program is happy with this. This season is not normal for the program. The program pays its coaches well, is breaking ground on new facilities, is on the road every day recruiting (seriously, so much I'm wondering if its hurting our play) and the team itself, despite setback after setback, has played much better the last two games. The idea that we're going to transform into Depaul because people can see an upward trend and are willing to be supportive is kind of ridiculous. And while I imagine few players and coaches come on here either way, I sincerely hope that people do continue to be positive and cheer and support the team at the Verizon center, where it will likely make a difference. My comments from last night could best be paraphrased as "no more excuses" and "no moral victories". With a 5-game losing streak, the only remedy for the players and fans is to win. You can't take the Nova game out of the context of the 4 previous games, and same with Michigan State coming up. When the players and fans start congratulating each other for "good try" after losing 5 games in a row, plus the earlier season losses, then you've accepted mediocrity. I really don't think JTIII and the players are making excuses and I don't see why the fans should either. I came on the board and in private conversations saying that I was pleased with the Creighton game and one or two of the other losses in this streak despite the result. But how anyone can come on here and say they were pleased with the Villanova game is astounding. Look at their ranking all you want, they are nothing special and certainly weren't anything special last night. Yes, this is pretty much a gripe post. I just couldn't read the blabber about the great "effort" and the refs and Moses being suspended, etc. Don't commit countless stupid fouls, don't commit countless stupid turnovers, learn from the mistakes that were made in the previous 4 games, do something positive defensively or offensively out of timeouts, and this would have been a win. I think it's fine to say X player did some good things last night, we saw improvement in Y area, etc. and that is legitimate discussion. But the end result is what counts. We should all be angry at the current state of the season. |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jan 28, 2014 12:22:32 GMT -5
Despite the outcome, a big thanks to the fans (both students and alums) for their support last night. Provided a great atmosphere and really provided a boost to our guys when a lot of other things just weren't going our way. The students have been a plus the last 2 home games after a slow start, and I hope to see that kind of support at the remaining home games. Disappointed cause we played well enough to win last night. Just needed a little bit more from DSR, but he's obviously not 100% and he was enough of a gamer to fight through whatever was bothering him, so can't really get on him for that. Bell pretty much had to hit everything down the stretch to keep us from taking the lead late, and he did. Credit goes to him. Refs missed just about every call they possibly could (without the benefit of a monitor) last night. Obvious calls where players are reaching from behind not whistled, tiny little hand checks 30 feet from the basket apparently worse than sin. It continues to amaze me how our guys (especially the guards) continue to draw contact on their drives to the hoop and rarely see the FT line, while the opposition nearly always gets the benefit of the doubt. No doubt that the refs whistled Nova for some pretty questionable fouls too, but that was not a game where the FT disparity should have been 28-9. I thought we played aggressively on offense and didn't settle for jumpers all night like we have in some recent games. We weren't rewarded for it and JTIII needs to figure out why. The courteous discussions he's had with officials this year are clearly not getting it done. Nice to have Jabril back. He wasn't much of a factor on offense, but you could clearly see the benefits of not only having another ball handler to counteract the press, but it really kept Markel (especially) and DSR fresher late in the game, where we have faded miserably during the last few weeks. Can't help but think what if had him for the SHU and Marquette games. Also a big bounce back game from Nate. He was terrible the last few weeks, but really contributed last night, especially on the boards. Also liked what I saw for the most part from Hop, Bowen and Cameron. On a usual DSR-like shooting night, their contributions would have been good enough for a win. Hopefully the three of them continue to put together some consistency as we progress towards the end of the year. And for the people who have been screaming for Domingo and Hayes to get minutes, I hope last night puts an end to that for the time being. Both looked completely lost again, and it's not debatable. Both will need to spend the upcoming offseason looking themselves in the mirror and deciding whether or not they want to put in the time to remain viable D-1 players at the high-major level, because if they don't, the writing's already on the wall. Just KNEW someone would bring it up; nobody said they'd be world beaters or that they'd make a difference, the point is that Hayes and Domingo should be given the opportunity to play in spots and to get better. Heck, Cameron's getting more comfortable.... Question is why are they lost when they've gotten out there? Pretty much bet that JTIII will either not play them next game. This team does not have the luxury of giving time to guys who are liabilities, just for the sake of helping them develop for the future. We need every point, every rebound, every defensive stop we can possibly get if we are to have any chance at a win. Hayes clearly played last night solely because Moses was out, and he did nothing to justify more minutes. Domingo is less involved on offense than Nate. I want both of these kids to develop, gain confidence, and be able to contribute, but we cannot afford on-the-job training this season. |
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jan 28, 2014 12:33:55 GMT -5
DHall, I think you are a sane and rational human being, and nothing you've said is all that different from many other sports fans. That said... you've accepted mediocrity. If by that you mean that I've accepted that this team, right now, is mediocre, you're 100% right I have. So tell me what's wrong with that. Tell me what your anger and negative posting does to improve the team right now. It does literally nothing. Nada. Zilch. It makes you feel better perhaps, and you get to act superior to other fans because you can think you hold people to a higher standard, but it has zero positive effect on the team. I've accepted that they are mediocre right now. What's wrong with that? The effort level seems to be there. There are signs of improvement. What's the right management move here? You want the player or coach or employee or child or whomever you are coaching to continue to work on improvement. The right move isn't denigrating improvement. They know the goals. No one is happy with losses in the long term. But people need to have positive reinforcement of even small successes. The way to keep someone motivated is understand that improvement takes time and is gradual. There's no switch people aren't flipping. No one has accepted mediocrity in the long run. There's no reason to suggest the team is suddenly doomed in the long run. In fact, a lot of signs are pointing to a brighter future. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2014 12:53:31 GMT -5
Ben Standig @benstandig 3h
Since dismissing Whittington on 11/30, Hoyas are 8-7; lost Josh Smith to grades, Jabril 5 games; broken jaw, 2 broken noses; Moses suspended (Also DSR rib injury) Yikes
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Aye Hoyas keep fighting, let's turn this ship around. Nothing we can't fix! #hoya4life
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@coachsutton tell the guys keep working and stay positive. They are going through the exact same thing as many other teams before.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Jan 28, 2014 13:08:38 GMT -5
Judging by the reaction of Aaron Bowen and the other guys at the end of the game, I do not think we need to worry about John Thompson III or the players "accepting" that they are a mediocre team. In fact, John Thompson III said at the post-game press conference:
Clearly, the situation is not being taken lightly by anybody. It's not like after these losses John Thompson III or the players are out there in the press making ridiculous statements (or comments like Esherick made about never getting fired and being the coach for 30 years). I think both the coaches and players desperately want to turn this around, and they are working hard to do so.
I understand the frustration from a fan's perspective. I was on edge the entire game last night, and I was very disappointed we did not win. That said, I recognize that our team has faced a lot of obstacles this year, and there's only so much we can do with our personnel. Of course, there are always the "what if" scenarios, but that's true in any close loss. I think you can be disappointed in the loss, yet be supportive of the effort the guys so obviously gave.
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Jan 28, 2014 13:21:28 GMT -5
How did that charge on Markel at the end of the game on the kick out look? I was way down low and there were too many bodies in the way. That was the nail in the coffin and I think the ref has got to swallow his whistle on that one. We needed a bad news bears let them play chant after that call.
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Post by HometownHoya on Jan 28, 2014 13:29:03 GMT -5
How did that charge on Markel at the end of the game on the kick out look? I was way down low and there were too many bodies in the way. That was the nail in the coffin and I think the ref has got to swallow his whistle on that one. We needed a bad news bears let them play chant after that call. In the replays they showed on tv, the defender was definitely in position. I do agree though, the refs should let that be a no call at that point...it was a pretty late call anyway. |
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Post by prhoya on Jan 28, 2014 13:31:20 GMT -5
How did that charge on Markel at the end of the game on the kick out look? I was way down low and there were too many bodies in the way. That was the nail in the coffin and I think the ref has got to swallow his whistle on that one. We needed a bad news bears let them play chant after that call. Looked liked a foul that should have been called. Markel straddled the Nova player. |
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Post by DanMcQ on Jan 28, 2014 13:32:40 GMT -5
Markel straddled the Nova player. Yeah, but he deserved it.  |
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He is even calling too many time outs now! He called that one where Starks scored on a drive. He played Hayes and Domingo. He played Caprio and he benched Caprio. He played Cameron more. He played Mosed more. He played Lubick less. He complained to the refs about fouls during and after the game. Are people now satisfied that there is pretty much nothing more JTIII can do to make this team a tourney team? It's up to the players. 
