DoctorHoya
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Post by DoctorHoya on Mar 3, 2013 17:33:27 GMT -5
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idhoya
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Post by idhoya on Mar 3, 2013 18:50:12 GMT -5
4/5
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Post by NoBoumtjeInTheYaYaRoom on Mar 3, 2013 19:22:41 GMT -5
5 in both polls. Gonzaga, Indiana, Kansas, Duke. We should be 4, but the voters will outweigh the BlueDevils undefeated record with Kelly over their loss to an unranked team to begin the week (who lost to BC today!).
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lichoya68
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OK YOUNGINS ARE HERE AND ARE VERY VERY GOOD cant wait GO HOYAS
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Post by lichoya68 on Mar 3, 2013 19:44:48 GMT -5
ONLY poll that counts is the last one... BEAT NOVA tough game ;D
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MassHoya
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Post by MassHoya on Mar 3, 2013 19:52:43 GMT -5
ONLY poll that counts is the last one... BEAT NOVA tough game ;D +1 |
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hoyas1995
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Post by hoyas1995 on Mar 3, 2013 20:27:43 GMT -5
I'll roll with 5. One you get this high its tough to move up more than a sport or 2
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nathanhm
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Post by nathanhm on Mar 3, 2013 20:44:50 GMT -5
I think we are ranked 3rd, 4th if the voters are stupid. No way we are ranked 5th.
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Big Dog
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Post by Big Dog on Mar 3, 2013 21:41:06 GMT -5
The real question is whether we get any first-place votes. Gonzaga is good but nobody has gone out on the road and done the kinds of things we've done.
I'm also betting some dip decides that after a 3-point home win, Duke now deserves first-place votes with Kelly. The Gregg Doyel column today about how Duke is now a "dominant" team after that home victory is a classic example.
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hoyasexy
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Post by hoyasexy on Mar 3, 2013 21:43:03 GMT -5
Any chance we get any #1 votes? Given all the carnage that has taken place at the top of the rankings recently, along with the fact that some voters may not be sold on Gonzaga, I wouldn't be shocked if 1 or 2 voters are convinced for our winning streak.
If I had a vote, I couldn't tell you who would get my vote, but I think 4 or 5 schools would be in the running. Georgetown would certainly be one of them.
Although I think Gonzaga will be comfortably #1, I also think that the number of schools who end up getting #1 votes might be pretty high.
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nathanhm
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Post by nathanhm on Mar 3, 2013 21:56:38 GMT -5
Id be shocked if we don't get at least 1 first place vote
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Post by rustyshackleford on Mar 3, 2013 22:13:16 GMT -5
I'm no big fan of Duke but they absolutely have an argument for number 1 - I'd initially went to look at their schedule so I could talk about how overrated they are but it's just flat out impressive*. The only argument I could see is that they haven't had too many big away wins but it's mitigated by the fact they've had some really nice wins on a neutral floor.
I do think we should get a couple #1 votes in the next poll too. I also think our resume matches up favorably to Kansas
I can see people quibbling w/their conf sched because the acc is kind of weak this year - but their ooc looks better in retrospect.
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tashoya
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Post by tashoya on Mar 3, 2013 22:25:03 GMT -5
The ACC isn't kind of weak this year. The ACC sucks this year outside of 2 teams. Duke likely won't drop more than one slot because Kelly is back. Ryan "hey, don't bother guarding me from 3 Miami" Kelly. I bet we're 5 regardless of the fact that everyone but Kansas and the Zags lost ahead of us. Who has Gonzaga played again?
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Big Dog
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Post by Big Dog on Mar 3, 2013 22:26:49 GMT -5
Anybody have any idea when the last time was that we got a first-place vote?
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CTHoya08
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Post by CTHoya08 on Mar 3, 2013 22:40:53 GMT -5
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 3, 2013 22:42:34 GMT -5
Anybody have any idea when the last time was that we got a first-place vote? 3/4/13. Oops, I wasn't supposed to say that yet. |
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Post by HoyaLawya on Mar 3, 2013 22:48:22 GMT -5
Nitty gritty report shows all kinds of stats showing how we stack up against the other contenders. espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/nittyWe know that one of the voters, from Springfield VA, is going to favor us with a #1 vote AGAIN. This time, maybe more of the voters will join him since the past week is sure to find a lot more vote splitting going on. www.pollspeak.com/component/option,com_psreport/Itemid,3/lang,en/p,49/r,V/s,22/t1,124/t2,/v,619/w,17/ |
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mfk24
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Post by mfk24 on Mar 3, 2013 22:50:29 GMT -5
I'm no big fan of Duke but they absolutely have an argument for number 1 - I'd initially went to look at their schedule so I could talk about how overrated they are but it's just flat out impressive*. The only argument I could see is that they haven't had too many big away wins but it's mitigated by the fact they've had some really nice wins on a neutral floor. I do think we should get a couple #1 votes in the next poll too. I also think our resume matches up favorably to Kansas I can see people quibbling w/their conf sched because the acc is kind of weak this year - but their ooc looks better in retrospect. The ACC is extremely weak and any solid team they've played on the road they've lost to. Their conference losses are @nc State, @miami, @md, and @uva. Duke will most definitely get #1 votes this week, but their schedule doesn't look all that impressive to me. If anything, what they (and Indiana) don't have is a "bad loss" like a lot of other teams at the top which is the only real plus I see them having over some others. We have the dreaded USF loss, Kansas has TCU, Michigan has Penn State. |
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rosslynhoya
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Post by rosslynhoya on Mar 3, 2013 23:06:03 GMT -5
Nitty gritty report shows all kinds of stats showing how we stack up against the other contenders. espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/nittyWe know that one of the voters, from Springfield VA, is going to favor us with a #1 vote AGAIN. This time, maybe more of the voters will join him since the past week is sure to find a lot more vote splitting going on. www.pollspeak.com/component/option,com_psreport/Itemid,3/lang,en/p,49/r,V/s,22/t1,124/t2,/v,619/w,17/ More importantly, Dunleavy was the biggest Gonzaga-skeptic last week. That bodes well for us to be #1 or #2 on his ballot tomorrow. |
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Post by rustyshackleford on Mar 3, 2013 23:10:06 GMT -5
I'm no big fan of Duke but they absolutely have an argument for number 1 - I'd initially went to look at their schedule so I could talk about how overrated they are but it's just flat out impressive*. The only argument I could see is that they haven't had too many big away wins but it's mitigated by the fact they've had some really nice wins on a neutral floor. I do think we should get a couple #1 votes in the next poll too. I also think our resume matches up favorably to Kansas I can see people quibbling w/their conf sched because the acc is kind of weak this year - but their ooc looks better in retrospect. The ACC is extremely weak and any solid team they've played on the road they've lost to. Their conference losses are @nc State, @miami, @md, and @uva. Duke will most definitely get #1 votes this week, but their schedule doesn't look all that impressive to me. If anything, what they (and Indiana) don't have is a "bad loss" like a lot of other teams at the top which is the only real plus I see them having over some others. We have the dreaded USF loss, Kansas has TCU, Michigan has Penn State. I already felt dirty defending Duke but I'll bite. I saw the same thing but when you're getting at teams that are this good you have to split hairs. That means the spanking we got from pitt and the loss to an awful team like south florida should count against us (which is why that nitty gritty report above is incomplete - the Kansas loss to TCU should outweigh any of their marginal gains in other areas vs us and Duke). W/respect to Duke's away schedule - I agree it's weak but there are very few teams who have neutral court wins as impressive as Louisville, VCU, Minnesota and Ohio State. If you want to use away wins a proxy for a teams' ability to play in an environment that isn't favorable to them like the tourney then those wins should count. Also at the end of the day our coaches are intelligent enough to realize how to game computer rankings so we should be punished for scheduling 4 cupcakes as abysmal as longwood, western carolina, american and liberty when we could have switched out a couple for merely mediocre mid majors. That said I think we should be 1 seed right now along w/Duke, Indiana and Gonzaga(though I'm willing to see them replaced by another team). |
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rosslynhoya
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Post by rosslynhoya on Mar 3, 2013 23:19:40 GMT -5
Why is our "Non-Conference RPI" so high (now 5th) when our "Non-Conference SoS" is as we've all recognized so incredibly low? What does that number represent?
In addition, you may recall that Duquesne and Liberty were foisted upon us for participating in the Legends Classic. Scheduling Longwood, Western Carolina and AU are all our own fault of course. Thank goodness Towson overperformed.
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