DFW HOYA
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Post by DFW HOYA on Apr 23, 2008 17:48:34 GMT -5
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Post by SFHoya99 on Apr 23, 2008 17:49:59 GMT -5
Ugh. Why transfer now, when you are all but guaranteed AT LEAST 25 mpg? Maybe I'm underestimating the freshmen, but this honestly reeks of a bad move all around.
It completely sucks for us -- we are officially thin.
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Post by vcjack on Apr 23, 2008 17:50:36 GMT -5
Edited
Don't get me wrong I've been frustrated with him too but we needed him, we are going to be very rough to start the season
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Post by hoya95 on Apr 23, 2008 18:01:17 GMT -5
I think everybody was at least a bit frustrated as to where he was, but, um, that's not good.
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Post by strummer8526 on Apr 23, 2008 18:02:57 GMT -5
What a Editeding clown. So long. Hope some other school likes a guy with hands made of cement who can rock a put back dunk but shoot 13% from the line if he's lucky.*
*If this turns out not to happen, I reserve the right to retract this statement. But it's frustrating to have the program invest time in a kid who bails when we need him.
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Apr 23, 2008 18:05:25 GMT -5
What a Editeding clown. So long. Hope some other school likes a guy with hands made of cement who can rock a put back dunk but shoot 13% from the line if he's lucky.* *If this turns out not to happen, I reserve the right to retract this statement. But it's frustrating to have the program invest time in a kid who bails when we need him. How about retracting it now? I may not think the decision is even necessarily right for Vernon, but there's no reason to be insulting. It just reeks of pettiness.
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Post by Jack on Apr 23, 2008 18:06:51 GMT -5
Easy on the sour grapes man.
Macklin's time at GU goes down as a bust if he leaves, but he showed enough flashes that he could have been useful. If Braswell is not coming either, there is now a real shortage of bigs.
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Post by jgalt on Apr 23, 2008 18:17:09 GMT -5
Yeah strummer, you shouldnt bash the kid now:
1) you dont know if its true
2) you dont know why (did you get on egerson when he left for a good reason, i would get on him if egerson didnt do something about his situation)
I hope this isnt true. I want V-Mack to play for us next year, i think he played really well when he got a good amount of minutes (SJU, Davidson, for example) He will be a central role next year, as a starter or a 6th man.
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Post by strummer8526 on Apr 23, 2008 18:19:09 GMT -5
What a Editeding clown. So long. Hope some other school likes a guy with hands made of cement who can rock a put back dunk but shoot 13% from the line if he's lucky.* *If this turns out not to happen, I reserve the right to retract this statement. But it's frustrating to have the program invest time in a kid who bails when we need him. How about retracting it now? I may not think the decision is even necessarily right for Vernon, but there's no reason to be insulting. It just reeks of pettiness. If it's petty, then can he fork over the tuition dollars that he didn't play b/c he was expected to come contribute to our basketball team? It just Editedes me off b/c at the end of the season, I thought he really could step out of Roy's shadow and become useful. We might be in a position where we're strapped for big men, and he's taking 2 year's worth of GU and walking. If he's afraid of not getting enough PT, THAT'S petty considering what's been invested in him. Obviously if it's not true, then anything that anyone says in this thread is moot. And if there are justifications that go beyond basketball, then those will be discussed later. At the moment, I feel free to jump to conclusions and be annoyed.
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Post by hoya95 on Apr 23, 2008 18:21:27 GMT -5
So long as it comes from decent reporter, it's pretty rare for one of these stories where they say "sources close to the situation" to turn out to be false. If he didn't get it from Macklin or his family or the coaching staff, why would he print this story? Sadly, I'd assume he's gone.
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Post by kchoya on Apr 23, 2008 18:22:49 GMT -5
Ugh. Why transfer now, when you are all but guaranteed AT LEAST 25 mpg? Maybe I'm underestimating the freshmen, but this honestly reeks of a bad move all around. It completely sucks for us -- we are officially thin. I love how we're "thin" when we have: Summers - 6'8" - top 30 recruit Monroe - 6'10" - #1 recruit Sims - 6'11" - top 50 recruit Braswell - 6'9" - top 50/75 recruit Young & inexperienced? Sure. Thin up front? Only compared to 4 or 5 other programs in the country. I love Macklin's game and hope to heck he stays, but I don't think it destroys our frontcourt.
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Post by mchoya on Apr 23, 2008 18:24:32 GMT -5
After what he showed in the first half against Davidson, he definitely can be a good player. This is going to be a bit of a blow for us. Why is he transferring? I don't get it.
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Post by strummer8526 on Apr 23, 2008 18:25:06 GMT -5
Ugh. Why transfer now, when you are all but guaranteed AT LEAST 25 mpg? Maybe I'm underestimating the freshmen, but this honestly reeks of a bad move all around. It completely sucks for us -- we are officially thin. I love how we're "thin" when we have: Summers - 6'8" - top 30 recruit Monroe - 6'10" - #1 recruit Sims - 6'11" - top 50 recruit Braswell - 6'9" - top 50/75 recruit Young & inexperienced? Sure. Thin up front? Only compared to 4 or 5 other programs in the country. I love Macklin's game and hope to heck he stays, but I don't think it destroys our frontcourt. That's true, but Braswell is a question mark at the moment. And I think everyone agrees that Summers doesn't play like a big and is better at the 3 than the 4. If you look at a starting 5 of Sapp, Wright, Freeman, Summers, and Monroe, that's a small team that plays small.
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Post by vcjack on Apr 23, 2008 18:28:12 GMT -5
Ugh. Why transfer now, when you are all but guaranteed AT LEAST 25 mpg? Maybe I'm underestimating the freshmen, but this honestly reeks of a bad move all around. It completely sucks for us -- we are officially thin. I love how we're "thin" when we have: Summers - 6'8" - top 30 recruit Monroe - 6'10" - #1 recruit Sims - 6'11" - top 50 recruit Braswell - 6'9" - top 50/75 recruit Young & inexperienced? Sure. Thin up front? Only compared to 4 or 5 other programs in the country. I love Macklin's game and hope to heck he stays, but I don't think it destroys our frontcourt. What if Braswell doesn't qualify? Then we are left with two freshmen (even though they might be talented ones, they are unproven) and DaJuan playing out of position, and maybe Nikita if he is at all decent. Guys like Thabeet, Ounaku, Clark, Samuels, Young and hell maybe even the 340 pound chubby kid that the Hall has now will have a much easier time with us
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Post by kchoya on Apr 23, 2008 18:31:43 GMT -5
I love how we're "thin" when we have: Summers - 6'8" - top 30 recruit Monroe - 6'10" - #1 recruit Sims - 6'11" - top 50 recruit Braswell - 6'9" - top 50/75 recruit Young & inexperienced? Sure. Thin up front? Only compared to 4 or 5 other programs in the country. I love Macklin's game and hope to heck he stays, but I don't think it destroys our frontcourt. What if Braswell doesn't qualify? Then we are left with two freshmen (even though they might be talented ones, they are unproven) and DaJuan playing out of position, and maybe Nikita if he is at all decent. Guys like Thabeet, Ounaku, Clark, Samuels, Young and hell maybe even the 340 pound chubby kid that the Hall has now will have a much easier time with us Why wouldn't Braswell qualify? You have to assume he's coming until we hear otherwise. Without Hibbert, any of those guys are going to have an easier time against us - with or without Macklin.
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Post by FormerHoya on Apr 23, 2008 18:36:57 GMT -5
This is really disappointing. Macklin briefly looked as good as he ever has in the Davidson game, I was looking for a quantum leap forward this year.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Apr 23, 2008 18:40:30 GMT -5
Edited Edited Edited Edited Edited! I pray to god this some how turns out to not be true.
So un Editeding cool. WHY!?! why would you transfer? I can't think of a possible reason unless he doesn't think he can outplay the incoming freshman and thinks he'll be behind all of them? It can't be to be closer to home he's already pretty close. Lack of playing time doesn't really make sense when he has a starting spot to lose next year?! why would you leave now?! Edited! so unfuking cool. Please please stay macklin.
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Post by williambraskyiii on Apr 23, 2008 18:42:18 GMT -5
this is extremely disappointing news. We needed an improved Vernon next year to be a contender in my opinion. I said it early on, and throughout his time at GU, while I will forever credit VMack with having the onions to sign with GU when it wasn't yet sexy again, his style of play never seemed to fit perfectly in the Princetown. That said, he brought us back onto the recruiting map and I will miss him.
I echo the above comments that strummer is out of line. You don't know him or the factors he has considered in making this decision. If anything, I am perplexed, because as SF said, he was looking at 25-30 mins next year as our only experienced interior player.
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Post by moe09 on Apr 23, 2008 18:43:46 GMT -5
I really think this has got to be for personal reasons... There's just no other answer that gives a satisfying reason. I can't imagine he was upset with the program. Here's to hoping it's not true.
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Post by vcjack on Apr 23, 2008 18:45:39 GMT -5
What if Braswell doesn't qualify? Then we are left with two freshmen (even though they might be talented ones, they are unproven) and DaJuan playing out of position, and maybe Nikita if he is at all decent. Guys like Thabeet, Ounaku, Clark, Samuels, Young and hell maybe even the 340 pound chubby kid that the Hall has now will have a much easier time with us Why wouldn't Braswell qualify? You have to assume he's coming until we hear otherwise. Without Hibbert, any of those guys are going to have an easier time against us - with or without Macklin. There was an article in the Post saying that we won't know for sure if he's qualified until the end of summer. I really hope that this is a "text message" situation
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