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Post by strummer8526 on Apr 23, 2008 22:46:20 GMT -5
OK, next time you're around these parts, go find Vernon Macklin. Look him in the eye and say "I don't think you're a good student." Then, say to him "I think you're afraid that freshmen are better than you and will take your playing time." See which speculative statement gets you knocked upside the head. That'll be the one that's insulting. To be clear, I have problems with the whole thread. You were merely the most offensive and easiest target. Consider yourself low hanging fruit. I'm sure you're used to it. Oh I hang low.
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Post by sleepy on Apr 23, 2008 22:54:46 GMT -5
This is an interesting development, imo. There are really only a few plausible reasons for his transfer, and if it is not personal reasons or academics, it is most likely playing time. Now what doesn't make sense is that it seemed Macklin was primed for a lot of playing time atleast from a fan's perspective, but as we all know it is not the fans that make the decisions. Maybe Macklin wasn't as ready to step into the main rotation as we thought, and JTIII probably told him that, if that is the reason. Thats really the only thing that makes any sense to me, because if he was going to be getting a lot of time then he wouldn't be looking to go some where else, no matter what tempo they play at. A shame really because he could have really helped us out this year, I guess we will have to wait until 09 to be really good again.
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Post by vcjack on Apr 23, 2008 23:06:10 GMT -5
This is an interesting development, imo. There are really only a few plausible reasons for his transfer, and if it is not personal reasons or academics, it is most likely playing time. Now what doesn't make sense is that it seemed Macklin was primed for a lot of playing time atleast from a fan's perspective, but as we all know it is not the fans that make the decisions. Maybe Macklin wasn't as ready to step into the main rotation as we thought, and JTIII probably told him that, if that is the reason. Thats really the only thing that makes any sense to me, because if he was going to be getting a lot of time then he wouldn't be looking to go some where else, no matter what tempo they play at. A shame really because he could have really helped us out this year, I guess we will have to wait until 09 to be really good again. If by "really good" you mean adding more trophies to the cases in McD, then yes we are a year away. But next year is going to be fun imo; few expectations but a lot of talent and good basketball to played
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Post by DanMcQ on Apr 23, 2008 23:08:36 GMT -5
Consider yourselves ALL warned.
Strummer - knock it off with your speculative posts about Vernon Macklin's possible reasons about transferring.
Cambridge, Strummer, and others - cut out attacking each other.
If you cannot live by those rules, posting bans will be handed out.
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Post by sleepy on Apr 23, 2008 23:12:39 GMT -5
That is what I meant vcjack, it is just the year will be a little less fun without Macklin, a guy with a lot of potential. It would have been interesting to see how he grew with a more athletic team, but I guess we will never find out.
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Post by HometownHoya on Apr 23, 2008 23:13:32 GMT -5
Was wondering when the mods were going to step in ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) Anyone think about him transferring to Duke? They would love to have a big man and maybe he can relearn the basics from Coach Jake's camp.
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Post by HoyaAtHeart on Apr 23, 2008 23:14:20 GMT -5
I've known this for a while now...when we signed Monroe and Sims he was telling everyone around campus he was out. I know of a couple ACC teams that have told him they have a spot for him.
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Post by strummer8526 on Apr 23, 2008 23:16:40 GMT -5
I've known this for a while now...when we signed Monroe and Sims he was telling everyone around campus he was out. I know of a couple ACC teams that have told him they have a spot for him. Do those ACC schools have names? I mean, we already know thanks to Jared Dudley how much more athletic the ACC is, so maybe this is a good move. ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png)
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Post by Jack on Apr 23, 2008 23:18:52 GMT -5
Was wondering when the mods were going to step in ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) Anyone think about him transferring to Duke? They would love to have a big man and maybe he can relearn the basics from Coach Jake's camp. Well he has worked with Bilas, who seems to really like him.
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Post by Hoya TMF on Apr 23, 2008 23:41:44 GMT -5
Has anyone else confirmed this? Until then, I'll hold a glimmer of hope. Still, I don't understand those who are not seriously worried about our front court now.
It's kind of foolish to discount Ticket's potential because of low numbers last year. Coming into next season, he would be getting at least twice as many minutes in a more uptempo offense. We are losing two of our slower players in Roy and Jon. You could tell in more than a few games, SJU, Davidson stand out, that the underclassmen were more likely to push the ball. Ticket would have a great opportunity to show why he was considered such a great prospect. He'd get lots of easy lay ups and dunks, especially as the most experienced big man on our raoster.
I really don't get this decision unless academics or personal issues have something to do with it. From a basketball stand point it doesn't make sense. He'd have a prominent role on a top ten or top 20 team. Without him, our entire frontcourt consists of freshman, and one of those guys might not even be eligible. I don't see how this is anything less than a huge loss for the team.
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Post by HometownHoya on Apr 23, 2008 23:53:36 GMT -5
As far as recruiting goes...isn't Wesley Witherspoon still available? A 6' 8" SF to back-up Dajuan would be nice
Any other options still open for this year?
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Post by idhoya on Apr 23, 2008 23:58:14 GMT -5
Witherspoon is commiting on May 1st. Not enough time. Besides that wouldn't make sense with Hollis and Spurlock(?) coming in. There's been talk of Rowley re-classifying to '08. Here's apparently a very bright kid and grades are already there.
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Post by bronxhoya87 on Apr 24, 2008 0:11:00 GMT -5
This means nothing I guess but I am his facebook friend and he says nothing about leaving. From his comments he seems happy at GU (his page was updated as recently as today). I dont want him to leave but then again I dont think he will ever develop into anything at this level.Would love to see him for 25 minutes a night this year. Maybe this decision is not his. Maybe the coach told him to please step aside.
I still hope we play faster next year but something tells me with Macklin potentially gone that we will play the same half court bball. If true I am getting a little nervous about JTIII and his system.
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Post by blueandgray on Apr 24, 2008 0:17:38 GMT -5
I've known this for a while now...when we signed Monroe and Sims he was telling everyone around campus he was out. I know of a couple ACC teams that have told him they have a spot for him. From everything written on this thread... this makes the most sense. My guess is that Mack's confidence has been shaken for a while (hence the 25% ft %tage), and if he didn't step up and turn it around immediately... he very easily could have been playing behind both Monroe and Sims. Based on what I've seen, Sims plays with more compusure then Macklin, is a better rebounder, is bigger, has better hands, has better touch from 8-10 feet out and may be a better fit for the Hoyas. In the end, Macklin has not been a difference maker and as such, won't be missed as much as posters are suggesting.
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Post by Hit That, Tay! on Apr 24, 2008 0:37:34 GMT -5
This means nothing I guess but I am his facebook friend and he says nothing about leaving. From his comments he seems happy at GU (his page was updated as recently as today). His profile has said "Georgetown Alum '07" for a couple weeks, so that is definitely something that would refer to leaving, if it means anything at all.
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Post by bronxhoya87 on Apr 24, 2008 0:51:55 GMT -5
If he dies he dies.....I mean if he leaves he leaves. Good luck to the young man though. If he does not think he can play here then he should leave. Timing is odd but follow your heart young man. I would think he would love to see all those big bodies coming in next year.
He would look good at Clemson.
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Post by Z on Apr 24, 2008 0:56:01 GMT -5
as someone that has been very, very negative on ticket generally over his two years, i still found myself reacting to the transfer news as if a casual girlfriend suddenly left me -- "i never realized it but i NEED her!!!" for all the hopeful talk of how this opens up time for the new guys, vern was at worst a nice insurance policy and at best a guy that still has the tools to (just maybe) turn it around and be an impact player. i hadn't considered it much but maybe his primary value was giving greg the chance to play primarily at his natural 4 right off the bat. in any event, no hard feelings towards vernon and i hope he is able to realize his potential somewhere else.
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Post by RDF on Apr 24, 2008 1:02:19 GMT -5
Good luck to Vernon if he is indeed leaving--that sucks for me as I was a big fan of his and thought he had a nice final 2 seasons at Georgetown ahead--but if he didn't think that--he's in program and has to do what is best for himself. Odd timing and he'd play a lot--FR are FR--but if a player is unhappy--best they leave--for the team and the player.
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Post by Buckets on Apr 24, 2008 1:13:06 GMT -5
I feel like a lot of people are in denial here. Whether or not you think Macklin's skilled, if Braswell doesn't qualify, that leaves us with Monroe, Sims, and DaJuan as legitimate options for post presence. I think we'd all like to see DaJuan at 3, but if one of these guys gets in foul trouble, who the hell is going to man the 4 when one of the other guys needs some rest? Skilled or not, he's big and athletic enough to guard big men and would play some very valuable minutes next year.
If Braswell does qualify, some of this taken care of, and Vernon isn't needed as desperately, but to assume that Monroe, Sims, and Braswell will all be better than Macklin is optimistic at best, and his presence would certainly keep DaJuan almost exclusively at 3. Best case scenario with Vernon gone definitely involves DaJuan playing a good deal of time at 4.
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Post by HoyaAtHeart on Apr 24, 2008 1:31:47 GMT -5
I forgot to mention...I don't know if anyone knows but Coach Thompson isn't shy at all in holding back his utmost feelings. Vern was TOLD Monroe would start over him. Ty was also told earlier in the year that he wasn't one of the best 8 he had and that he wouldn't be in the rotation. I never though this was the perfect marriage. I honestly believe Vern in more of a free flowing system would be a beast somewhere else. The princeton offense isn't really for guys who rely solely on their athleticism and nothing more like Vern. Put Vern in a system where he gets to run up and down the floor and he would live up a little more to those expectations. So Vern might be telling people that he doesn't like the offense but there is more to it than that.
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