GUJook97
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Post by GUJook97 on Mar 16, 2008 19:33:44 GMT -5
Re: UNC -- I kow they are in-state the whole time, but I really don't see UNC making it to the Final Four. _____ Oh, and here's the tool Andy Glockner from his chat: Dan, (San Rafael, CA): Wisconsin will take down Georgetown. No doubt in my mind.
ANDY GLOCKNER: You don't have to twist my arm on that one.As I said, Wisconsin got hosed. I don't even see them beating USC. USC can defend just as well as Wisconsin, and they are more athletic. |
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Post by sleepyjackson21 on Mar 16, 2008 19:37:35 GMT -5
Marquette will be fine. Kentucky lost Patrick Patterson. That really hurts them inside and Marquette has the guards to match up with Crawford, Bradley, Jasper and Meeks.
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Post by ihoya on Mar 16, 2008 19:40:14 GMT -5
According to ESPN
1988 Kansas = Manning and the miracles? I thought the 86-87 Hoyas = Reggie and the miracles?
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Post by guru on Mar 16, 2008 19:42:33 GMT -5
Glockner is one of those media morons who takes a position and refuses to acknowlege the fact that it has been proven wrong. He started to badmouth the Hoyas at about midseason and dug his heels in. Trust me, we could lose in the Final game, and this clown will still say "I told you so."
Seth Davis is in this camp as well, though I don't think he's been as adamant about his negative opinion of the Hoyas.
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Post by bmartin on Mar 16, 2008 19:58:39 GMT -5
Glockner is a Penn grad and former Quaker placekicker. This is more about denying credit to JTIII as a proponent of the Princeton offense and a member of the Carril coaching tree and not his honest assessment of Georgetown.
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Post by ihoya on Mar 16, 2008 20:00:05 GMT -5
everyone picking Kansas to the FF...too much love from ESPN = early exit
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Post by Highsmith on Mar 16, 2008 20:00:12 GMT -5
Bilas, Knight and Digger picked us to go to the Elite 8 and lose to Kansas........Bilas said it could be one of the best games in the tournament. Vitale has us in the Final 4 losing to UNC. Hubert Davis has USC in the Elite 8.
Bobby Knight has Pitt winning the whole thing!!! Leave it to Bobby to be the only one to go out on a limb.......although I am surprised any of those guys picked us to beat Kansas.
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Post by guru on Mar 16, 2008 20:04:38 GMT -5
I agree on the curse of the ESPN love. I told my wife there was no way we were going to win last night after all 4 dolts in the studio picked us over Pitt. I was kind of joking, but I do believe that when all the "experts" agree on a pick, it's usually wrong. So I like that we're somehow flying under the radar a bit.
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Post by BurgerMadness on Mar 16, 2008 20:12:12 GMT -5
I like our potential path, but am seriously conflicted by the fact that KU may stand in the way of the F4. Been going to KU games since I was small b/c my mother/g'father/cousins/uncles all went to school in Lawrence. I've had the pleasure of sitting in the Chancellor's seats at Phog Allen FH in a #1-#2 match-up, and my daughter's have more KU gear than I have GU.
Cannot go to Detroit to see the game if they make it, but it is pretty much my dream game. Would be happier if it was for the Championship of course.
I just hope this potential problem becomes reality. It would be an awesome game on paper as Bilas said.
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Post by Filo on Mar 16, 2008 20:14:03 GMT -5
Yeah, I prefer being under the radar a bit.
On a related note, despite the protestations we have all had around here about the lack of respect shown to the Hoyas, the committee sure did show some respect. That felt good for a change.
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Post by wrestlemania on Mar 16, 2008 21:15:32 GMT -5
I don't get Seth Davis's logic re: Davidson. True, they had very competitive losses against UNC and Duke on the road, but that was in Nov/Dec when everyone's just getting out of bed. Since then its been multiple wins against Elon, Wofford, The Citadel etc. If Zags stop Curry from going nuts they'll win by 20.
And then beat us, by the way. Giants won the Super Bowl -- I know when to quit.
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Post by sead43 on Mar 16, 2008 21:26:25 GMT -5
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Post by uptownathlete on Mar 16, 2008 21:49:44 GMT -5
Walker, in this case against USC, will probably be a negative. He tends to play erractic against a team who can match his intensity/athleticism. He'll have problems against Davon Jefferson if he ever gets assigned to him.
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Post by uptownathlete on Mar 16, 2008 21:57:05 GMT -5
Also, not sure who this analyst is [didn't get a look] on ESPN 2 right now doing bracketology coverage, but he said G'town will AT LEAST make it to the elite 8, and further if we establish Roy. Or, at least we're at our best when Roy gets his touches [so basically, we've only been at our best about 3 times this season lol] Anyway, he went on to say we've struggled against physical teams, and the most physical team we'd face would be Kansas. Then said...."But Kansas isn't that physical"
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Post by hoyasaxact on Mar 16, 2008 21:58:49 GMT -5
Uptown- I saw that same analysis and assume he meant to say "Georgetown" isn't that physical.
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Post by grokamok on Mar 16, 2008 22:48:21 GMT -5
I think the selection committee did something interesting by placing us second and Wisconsin third in the Midwest. It allowed for the fact that our conference is considerably better than the one the Badgers won but gave the Badgers a semi-home court against us in the potential Sweet Sixteen matchup, essentially making the seeding a wash even though they might be expected to play higher seeds (14 & 6 vs 15 & 7, even though our 7 & 10 are both ranked higher in the polls than their 6) to get there. This seems to indicate that the committee thought we were really no better than them, despite the seed, and that they were willing to put the combination of us and the highest 3-seed up against the lowest 1-seed (Kansas) since they couldn't put Texas there.
I like the fact that they put Tennessee in UNC's region, mitigating the Charlotte advantage to some degree and I really like their choice to put Duke in DC instead of Raleigh, making them work at least a little to get to the regionals. I also find it peculiar that both the 10 and 11 seeds in our region got semi-home games against higher seeds - it should be an interesting first 2 rounds!
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Post by bmartin on Mar 16, 2008 23:19:18 GMT -5
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Post by HoyaChris on Mar 16, 2008 23:33:08 GMT -5
I think the selection committee did something interesting by placing us second and Wisconsin third in the Midwest. It allowed for the fact that our conference is considerably better than the one the Badgers won but gave the Badgers a semi-home court against us in the potential Sweet Sixteen matchup, essentially making the seeding a wash even though they might be expected to play higher seeds (14 & 6 vs 15 & 7, even though our 7 & 10 are both ranked higher in the polls than their 6) to get there. This seems to indicate that the committee thought we were really no better than them, despite the seed, and that they were willing to put the combination of us and the highest 3-seed up against the lowest 1-seed (Kansas) since they couldn't put Texas there. I like the fact that they put Tennessee in UNC's region, mitigating the Charlotte advantage to some degree and I really like their choice to put Duke in DC instead of Raleigh, making them work at least a little to get to the regionals. I also find it peculiar that both the 10 and 11 seeds in our region got semi-home games against higher seeds - it should be an interesting first 2 rounds! I don't buy the semi home court aspect in regard to Wisconsin. Madison is 425 miles away from Detroit (DC is 525). As a former resident of Detroit I can testify that Big Ten loyalty is almost non-existent - it is all about the individual teams and specific rivalries - and I am pretty sure I never met a Wisconsin fan in 15 years in the area. Detroit will be a neutral court. |
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Post by The Stig on Mar 16, 2008 23:39:27 GMT -5
Syracuse vs. Maryland as a possible NIT second round game. How sweet it is! Is that the ultimate Meteor Game? |
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Post by SFHoya99 on Mar 16, 2008 23:40:22 GMT -5
I don't really like our draw at all. Wisconsin is a good team; Gonzaga and Davidson aren't walkovers. Most importantly, USC is one of the teams I wanted no part of -- so much better than their seed. How the heck is Vandy a 4 seed and USC and 6? Southern Cal would be at least a five poiint favorite in that game.
Anyone notice Duke got half a bracket with no big men in it? Their huge weakness and no one in their bracket can exploit it.
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