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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on May 9, 2008 13:33:40 GMT -5
I feel like alpert's lack of aging is different from time travel. I feel like even if he was traveling around time he would still age. I feel like ben's quote from last season " you do remember birthday's right richard?" implies he actually isn't aging somehow.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2008 14:21:34 GMT -5
Disagree, RB. To me, NOTHING was confirmed last night. I'm still not convinced time travel is at play. I could just as easily explain Alpert's presence in the 50's flashback as another example of him being an immortal. Remember, he looked the exact same the first time he meets Ben as a youth (albeit with much longer hair) and he looks the same today. VERY perplexing.
The doctor is what's puzzling to me. Remember, when the rocket was fired from the ship, it got "lost" on the way TO The Island. That is, it was fired, and arrived X minutes later, when it should have arrived much sooner. With the doctor, he "arrives" before he's "fired" from the ship. Mind blowing...
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2008 14:22:24 GMT -5
I feel like alpert's lack of aging is different from time travel. I feel like even if he was traveling around time he would still age. I feel like ben's quote from last season " you do remember birthday's right richard?" implies he actually isn't aging somehow. Exactly what I was getting at, HSB. EDIT: RB, I like where you're going, but I just haven't been convinced yet. There are far too many other plausible explanations for me. |
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Post by RBHoya on May 9, 2008 20:44:22 GMT -5
I suppose you're right that it's not confirmed. To me it just seems crazy that Alpert would be able to know about Locke, and find him as a newborn, without having met him first. How could that happen? It reminds me a little of the Phantom Menace when Anakin had the crazy high medichloreon count, does Locke have something like that going for him that enables people in-tune with the island to detect him? Some kind of disturbance of the force?
Really hard to wrap my brain around.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on May 9, 2008 21:25:29 GMT -5
Some one suggested this, I don't buy it but it would be interesting. It was suggested that Alpert was the older man emily locke was seeing. It'dbe interesting, it would explain why he was at the hospital, but doesn't necessarily make sense with the rest of the story.
Also interesting that Horace says he's been dead for 12 years. Meaning that the purge took place in the early 90s, for some reason I had assumed it being further back in time than that. don't know why.
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Post by hifigator on May 10, 2008 12:37:40 GMT -5
Just my two cents: I am somewhat baffled that you all have managed to have a now 5 page thread on some TV show.
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Post by strummer8526 on May 10, 2008 12:45:36 GMT -5
That wasn't a full two cents. Rip-off.
I'm also confused by the time situation. I thought the island was in the past. That would explain why it took the thing shot from the boat longer to get to the island...the island had to catch up time-wise. So I thought that when Faraday sent the Morse code message to the boat, "the doctor" was referring to Jack (meaning the boat would be in the future and Jack had already gotten off the island). The fact that the boat seems to be in the past...the baffles me. I also think Claire is dead. She had a very odd look to her that was both creepy and incredibly hot. I cannot for a second get my mind around the island's "mobility." I guess we'll just see what that's all about. But I guess it would explain why it's so hard to find for Widmore and then bearded-future-Jack.
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Post by The Stig on May 10, 2008 12:46:58 GMT -5
Just my two cents: I am somewhat baffled that you all have managed to have a now 5 page thread on some TV show. And I'm somewhat baffled that a Florida fan has over 3000 posts on a Georgetown message board. |
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Post by jgalt on May 10, 2008 16:01:46 GMT -5
Just my two cents: I am somewhat baffled that you all have managed to have a now 5 page thread on some TV show. we have ten page threads on why players transferred and you are surprised by this. What do you guys think was the object that Locke was supposed to pick when he was a kid. It wasnt the Knife, so what was it. The other objects were the comic (im thinking walt) the sand, the compass, the book of laws, and the baseball glove (was it a catchers mit or a first basemans glove or neither and was just old so i didnt recognize it) |
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on May 10, 2008 19:02:33 GMT -5
well we know the compass and the sand were correct choices. I feel like he was supposed to either choose the comic ( it said "What was the secret of the mysterious HIDDEN LAND! " on it) or the book of laws. he wasn't supposed to take the knife and the glove just doesn't make sense. It's interesting because this test is very simillar to what they do to determine the dali lama's reincarnation.
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Post by HealyHoya on May 10, 2008 20:15:56 GMT -5
ok, so i watch the show but have only recently started analyzing this thing...can anyone suggest "the" blog to read...or a couple of good ones...
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Post by strummer8526 on May 10, 2008 20:26:46 GMT -5
ok, so i watch the show but have only recently started analyzing this thing...can anyone suggest "the" blog to read...or a couple of good ones... Lostpedia isn't bad. It's not a blog per se but it does have a good amount of info, some theories, etc. Also, pretty much every little detail you can think of has an entry. |
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on May 10, 2008 20:44:07 GMT -5
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Post by jgalt on May 11, 2008 16:15:16 GMT -5
well we know the compass and the sand were correct choices. how do we know this? what did i miss or what am i not remembering? |
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on May 11, 2008 19:20:35 GMT -5
It seems that's what the scene implied, I mean wouldn't alpert have stopped him earlier if he had made a wrong choice. He only reacted negatively to the choice of the knife. at the time he picks the other two items richard just sits there and nods.
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Post by jgalt on May 11, 2008 20:09:48 GMT -5
It seems that's what the scene implied, I mean wouldn't alpert have stopped him earlier if he had made a wrong choice. He only reacted negatively to the choice of the knife. at the time he picks the other two items richard just sits there and nods. Yes i suppose this is true. I was think that when locke moved those items it was only to inspect them not to pick them. Either way, can we agree that the comic would be walt would pick. I am thinking that maybe each of those items is relate to one of the "owners of the island." So one of those would have belonged to Ben and one to locke who is now "owner." So that would imply, if the comic belongs to walt, that he would become the "owner" at some point too. |
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on May 11, 2008 20:31:09 GMT -5
ah, I didn't think of it that way. I think my interpretation is right, but there's no proof. That's one of the things that makes lost great so many ways to interpret things.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2008 9:25:47 GMT -5
Great posts. Healy - also check out www.losttv-forum.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=3 Its the HoyaTalk of Lost fans. First, I also read Locke's picking of the compass and sand coupled with Alpert's reaction to indicate he made two correct decisions. Remember, Alpert told young John to select the items that "already belonged to [him]." So I don't think this talk about Walt and Ben is on point here, necessarily. That said, shouldn't Locke have chosen the Book of Laws over the knife and comic book? Isn't the Book of Laws the Torah, which contains the book (or is it just a story of) Jacob? Whether or not he picked the compass and sand or was merely inspecting them, shouldn't the item he staked his claim to be the holy book that references (at least in spirit) The Island's supposed patriarch? Other cool parts of that scene - John's drawing of Smokie and the fact he was playing backgammon. Alpert as Locke's father?? Now THAT blows my mind. If he's immune to aging, it would make some sense. But then again, didn't Emily Locke's mother act as if she knew who the lover was? And if so, wouldn't she have recognized Alpert at the hospital and had a different reaction? hifi is a stupid d-o-u-c-h-e likely high on this week's shipment of Cabo Wabo or Sonny Chiba. Just ignore him and watch your HoyaTalk experience blossom. |
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2008 9:27:47 GMT -5
Also interesting that Horace says he's been dead for 12 years. Meaning that the purge took place in the early 90s, for some reason I had assumed it being further back in time than that. don't know why. From the fact-checkers at Lostpedia: " Horace Goodspeed, in Locke's dream, mentions that he has been dead for 12 years. This places the date of the Purge on December 19, 1992 (December 19 being Ben's birthday)." Remember, it was on another of Ben's birthdays that his father forgot when Ben gassed him and the other DHARMA members. |
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Post by strummer8526 on May 12, 2008 10:14:28 GMT -5
Great posts. Healy - also check out www.losttv-forum.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=3 Its the HoyaTalk of Lost fans. First, I also read Locke's picking of the compass and sand coupled with Alpert's reaction to indicate he made two correct decisions. Remember, Alpert told young John to select the items that "already belonged to [him]." So I don't think this talk about Walt and Ben is on point here, necessarily. That said, shouldn't Locke have chosen the Book of Laws over the knife and comic book? Isn't the Book of Laws the Torah, which contains the book (or is it just a story of) Jacob? Whether or not he picked the compass and sand or was merely inspecting them, shouldn't the item he staked his claim to be the holy book that references (at least in spirit) The Island's supposed patriarch? Other cool parts of that scene - John's drawing of Smokie and the fact he was playing backgammon. Alpert as Locke's father?? Now THAT blows my mind. If he's immune to aging, it would make some sense. But then again, didn't Emily Locke's mother act as if she knew who the lover was? And if so, wouldn't she have recognized Alpert at the hospital and had a different reaction? hifi is a stupid d-o-u-c-h-e likely high on this week's shipment of Cabo Wabo or Sonny Chiba. Just ignore him and watch your HoyaTalk experience blossom. Oh no. That forum may have just taken over another small bit of my life. This kind of thing isn't good for a person, and now I'll have two. |
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