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Post by mdtd on Dec 2, 2019 19:46:31 GMT -5
When did hoya4ever quit? I thought it was just jctnhoya4ever. FWIW, hoya4ever is still an registered poster but has not posted since Apr 30, 2015. - Admin Admin I think he was probably referring to Hoyas4Ever (who is still posting, but I was also getting confused at first when people were talking about jctnhoya4ever as "a hoya4ever"). I referred to him as "a hoya4ever" because I thought it was funny that someone with that name would decide to quit on such short notice. I should've been more clear. I mentioned this in the post up top, but I probably should've made two separate posts in hindsight. That's on me.
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Post by mdtd on Dec 2, 2019 19:44:54 GMT -5
This changes everything. Allen, Mac, Galen, and Jamorko have to step it up for this one. Play hard and see what you can do. Play as a team. Can't overreact as it's their first game without those two, but these specifically Galen and Allen have to show up. They were supposed to be big players in the offseason, it's time to live to that.
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Post by mdtd on Dec 2, 2019 19:41:13 GMT -5
The fans need to know what happened. Now. Urgently. There are not many words that I can say on this website that describe the situation... so I'm going to say what needs to happen to succeed.
The best player on the team and the most energetic player have left in the face of the biggest 3 game span in the last 5 years. I just can't.
Pickett and Alexander need to play to their rankings. They need to be better and will be taking more shots. They need to play defense and get sed to each other, as they should play a lot more. If someone asked me who's playing the most additional minutes after this, I'd answer Galen Alexander. It's time to step it up and be that top 100 recruits. It's time to get some shots and make some aggressive plays. It's time to actually drive, both Jamorko and Galen. Terrell Allen needs to do something offensively. Provide something man. He's been a nothing on that side. He needs to facilitate or something. Get layups, play aggressive defense or something man. Blair needs to be more than just a shooter. Defense and shot creation are necessary. Gardner needs to step it up. He needs to play within himself and not force anything. Mosely needs to step it up. He started very well and recently has gone invisible again. That can't happen. And most importantly, Mac McClung. It's time to be that lead guard. It's time to be THAT guy. The Mac will have to show out. He needs to be the guy we have seen flashes of. He needs to be that guy. Mac needs to handle the ball more and make some plays for himself and others. We need a poster dunk, we need to see you still have it. We need to see that you can be the guy taking 20 shots per game. The first two and last are clearly the most important. Omer and Qudus have to rebound. Ewing can't just depend on Omer again. If that happens and he only feeds Omer, this season is toast. Run actual plays, get your talented players shots. Not just one of them. And let Allen be that top 5 defenders in the NCAA. Let him be that guy. Leave him on an island with the opponents' best guard every day and let him do whatever he needs defensively. The defense needs to revolve around him. He needs to step up.
What could go wrong, has gone wrong. Here. We. Go. Horrible timing.
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Post by mdtd on Dec 2, 2019 13:54:42 GMT -5
Also to note on ESPN+, although I don't have ESPN+, I've streamed games on ESPN3 and the play by play is actually faster, so if you want to actually watch the game, don't look at it, in case it's faster. I can't find anything for the DC area on TV, though it's going to be easier to search for tomorrow. If anyone else could find anything, it would be great.
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Post by mdtd on Dec 2, 2019 13:44:40 GMT -5
Here's how it's gone for as long as my narrative carries itself. The Hoyas stink one game, then everyone comes out and says that they suck and are screwed and Ewing this... Akinjo that... etc then they come out and somehow win. I very much remember that Marquette game or the Nova game and it made no sense (last year). So... maybe this is one of those. It just seems to fit after a "hoya4ever" has decided to quit. This is the weirdest Hoya bounceback spot that it may just work. But LeBlanc will need some PT. Also note, this same narrative works where they play really well (NYC) then stink (UNCG). So... take it as you will. I could be making this up. When did hoya4ever quit? I thought it was just jctnhoya4ever. FWIW, hoya4ever is still an registered poster but has not posted since Apr 30, 2015. - AdminI haven't been here that long, so I didn't know that was a person... Also, I meant "a 'Hoya4ever'" in that his name implied he was a Hoya for life, and not one to quit. Also, not the hoya4ever, but a so-called, self-proclaimed hoya4ever. My bad on that. But, not to get too far off topic, this Oklahoma State team is ranked 30th by votes received by the latest AP poll, though these don't matter much at all at this point. Also, something to note, Texas fell all the way out of the poll, so these voters really might not respect the Hoyas. Added motivation to my original theory, against a team that is the NIT preseason champion. I mean the players should be motivated for every game and someone who 100% always is in Josh LeBlanc needs to play. Again, he's a better matchup for someone like Cameron McGriff or Lindy Waters, who should step up, as he can guard both on the perimeter and inside and won't require a double team if they go onto the block, unlike Stevens on a guard. That would put the length of Pickett on another shooter to disrupt some flow in their offense. McGriff is more interior and doesn't take too many threes (16.7% on 2 .57 attempts per game) and letting him go on a smaller player and helping leaves good shooters in Dziagwa (38% on 7.1 attempts per game, down from 42.5% from last year) or Waters (38.5% on 3.74 attempts per game, down from 44.8% last year) open. If Dziagwa gets hot, this game is over. You can't leave him ever. If Mosely is to guard a bigger player and the Hoyas want to double down off of them after a few buckets (like McGriff) you give Dziagwa an opportunity to get hot and run the risk of losing the game. LeBlanc should play more and matchup with these guys, plus you give additional energy and aggressiveness which is needed in a big road game.
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Post by mdtd on Dec 1, 2019 0:53:08 GMT -5
People have to give some credit to UNCG. They are a very talented team and one that should've made the tournament last year. I won't be convinced otherwise. Wes Miller is one of the best coaches, and one who I've thought would've had a high major job for three years. Coach Miller is easily the second-best coach we've gone up against and will be in the non-conference. *Never give them any credit to anything at all, their offense stinks they put up 34 in a game, you know who I'm talking about he picks his nose ok you get it now.* They have an excellent program and Miller is the guy if someone was to say "Ewing retires, you have one midmajor guy, who are you taking" I take. Every single time. Not the one that's going to win you the press conference, but the one that will win ou games. I've been following the program, very loosely, for 3 years now and loved seeing this game on the schedule. It's not a cupcake like some here seem to think it is. UNCG has a program. Isaiah Miller is an excellent guard and Kaleb Hunter has looked really good before he got hurt (really hope he's ok). They are incredibly talented and defend well 100% of the time. The offense is shotty with no Alonso, but Miller will step into those shoes and start performing. Miller will be offered high major jobs this offseason. I'm still very shocked St. John's didn't even offer him. Their defense was very good and the Hoyas got trapped into playing UNCG's game, credit to coach Miller. People are overreacting quite a bit (I know what website I'm on, I think even for here this is an overreaction). This game was a 6pt spread, it's not like to Stephen F. Austin as 27.5/28pt favorites at home. Greensboro is a tournament level team and this win should help them get there. I can't name 45 better teams than UNCG, while they aren't a flashy pick, they have cinderella potential. I think both ETSU and UNCG are tournament teams out of the SoCon and that will be a fun watch. But, nothing here seems to point that UNCG was good. They were very good. I understand criticisms, but some at this point have been excessive. I can say that I stand by everything I said earlier: the starters were horrible, the half-court sets were even worse, that NEEDS TO CHANGE please have a play or something, Ewing, please... not just throw it to Yurt and hope, or run the same play for a three twice that wasn't even a play, that was a playground hope it works, give it to the shooter (Blair) off of a screen and LeBlanc needs to play more, much more. But, losing to quality teams isn't bad. This won't be a loss that comes back to bite you. However, losing to Providence at this point... that might just be a different story. Pipkins may have to fix up his play before he's "coming for you boy." I'd be very shocked if multiple people actually read this far. But, it's not as bad as people make it out to be, just some major flaws were exploited by an excellent coach. Play LeBlanc, run better half-court sets and beat these pesky Cowboys.
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Post by mdtd on Dec 1, 2019 0:33:04 GMT -5
Here's how it's gone for as long as my narrative carries itself. The Hoyas stink one game, then everyone comes out and says that they suck and are screwed and Ewing this... Akinjo that... etc then they come out and somehow win. I very much remember that Marquette game or the Nova game and it made no sense (last year). So... maybe this is one of those. It just seems to fit after a "hoya4ever" has decided to quit. This is the weirdest Hoya bounceback spot that it may just work. But LeBlanc will need some PT.
Also note, this same narrative works where they play really well (NYC) then stink (UNCG). So... take it as you will. I could be making this up.
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Post by mdtd on Nov 30, 2019 19:41:58 GMT -5
As in Mac intepreted it wrong. Mac made a mistake. Also, most coaches have these. Don't foul, huh that's foul. Mac went off instinct and Ewing got mad. There's quite a bit to get mad at, this little bit is insane. Who says there was a miscommunication? In my opinion of course you foul and extend the game. Unfortunately we let a few seconds pass before fouling. I think I'm thinking of the wrong foul. I feel like I was supposed to talk about the Myron foul and I'm on the one from Mac with 27s left. My bad.
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Post by mdtd on Nov 30, 2019 19:29:31 GMT -5
Ewing didn't want to foul there. Miscommunications happen. What's worse is what happened off of the miss. What's worse is the lead up and what ends up happening, not that play itself. I can't be too bothered by that because of a simple miscommunication. Happens to everyone. How do you miscommunicate something so important from about 20 feet away in a dead silent arena? Getting stuff like that right is part of coaching. Our guy has no clue. As in Mac intepreted it wrong. Mac made a mistake. Also, most coaches have these. Don't foul, huh that's foul. Mac went off instinct and Ewing got mad. There's quite a bit to get mad at, this little bit is insane.
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Post by mdtd on Nov 30, 2019 19:27:13 GMT -5
We lost a "hoya4ever." Of all games, this one shocks me not going to lie. Assuming it's the name and not looking into the school's program.
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Post by mdtd on Nov 30, 2019 19:22:20 GMT -5
Do people agree with fouling 83 percent shooter with 16 seconds left was a better percentage then playing out possession and Potentially getting ball back with eight seconds left in a transition situation? Ewing didn't want to foul there. Miscommunications happen. What's worse is what happened off of the miss. What's worse is the lead up and what ends up happening, not that play itself. I can't be too bothered by that because of a simple miscommunication. Happens to everyone.
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Post by mdtd on Nov 30, 2019 19:17:49 GMT -5
Alright, let's relive this game. #1 Greensboro is a great team, very good defensively. Wes Miller is an excellent coach and will have a high major job. This wasn't a guarantee and UNCG was the better team. Let's get into why. THE STARTERS STUNK. THEY STUNK. Omer was 3/12 and blew a dunk. Yes, a dunk. Omer was horrible. Pickett and Mosely? No way they only had 5 To's. That's wayyy off. Those two absolutely were horrible. Play LeBlanc? PLEASE!!!! Someone has to do something... AND ITS HIM. PLAY LEBLANC. Mackinjo? Took themselves out of the game. Why? Let's get into that. The offense: Full court wasn't horrible at all. When they had opportunities, it was much cleaner. Not many opportunities, but it was solid. The halfcourt? HORRIBLE. The play was give the ball to Yurtseven and pray. Force it to him and either turn it over trying, have him miss a hook shot or have him turn it over. It took the guards out of the game and slowed the pace down entirely. The game didn't play in our favor and this was a cause. UNCG's defense is very good, credit to coach Wes Miller. But holy spaghetti and meatballs the offense stunk. Run some plays. AND MOVE BEFORE 10S LEFT!!!!! Played to UNCG's pace. Coach Wes Miller absolutely out-coached Ewing. The substitutions were off, Mosely, Pickett, and Akinjo should've played less. Try Mac at PG. Blair and Gardner were good. Especially, Mosely and Pickett, they should've sat much longer. Alexander should play more. When trying to speed it up... PLAY THE SMALL BALL LINEUP!!!!!!!! PLAY LEBLANC!!!!! LET THEM RUN!!!!. Wahab is not someone who should be getting consistent post touches. Run the floor!!!! Play the small-ball lineup. It worked!!! Use it. This was a small ball lineup game. When you need to pick up the pace, and defend the full court, run the small-ball lineup. Play it more. Wahab didn't look good and the press worked. RUN THE SMALL BALL UNIT. ALSO, DON'T GO ALL BENCH, MAN!!! This was frustrating. Very frustrating. That was the performance after a week of preparation.
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Post by mdtd on Nov 30, 2019 1:45:59 GMT -5
75-70 Hoyas
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Post by mdtd on Nov 29, 2019 15:18:40 GMT -5
I would agree. Doing so would dial everything upwards!! What is the upside for Maryland? Currently, the Terps are clearly a superior program to the Hoyas. If they win, it’s expected. If they lose, they play down to a local team that they consistently beat for recruits. It’s like saying we need to play GW every year. What’s the upside for the Hoyas in that scenario? Terps schedule is always weak. I think it keeps them out of a one seed, unless they absolutely dominate the Big 10. You want to play good teams. The Hoyas are a good team and the name sells itself. A q1/q2 non conference game would be a huge step up in Maryland's schedule. Restore a local rivalry and hope it builds something. In today's age of scheduling, any game against a solid team goes somewhere. You made an attempt to play someone and got your SOS up. Maryland comes up short in the tournament almost ever year, and scheduling is a big part of that.
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Post by mdtd on Nov 28, 2019 0:33:05 GMT -5
After that Seton Hall loss, things are not looking as good as they should. Aside from the Hoyas beating Texas, Depaul and Butler have the only good wins. DePaul at Iowa and at BC, and Butler neutral over an alright Stanford team. Seton Hall, Xavier, and Villanova have all missed opportunities. Aside from that, it's Miss St without Weatherspoon (Nova)? At St. Louis(S. Hall)? Neutral to UCONN (Xavier)? Home to Purdue(Quette)? Many opportunities left but at this point, the A-10 has been better. Need more wins. Still, some tournaments left and opportunities. Creighton has San Diego St. tomorrow. Marquette has a good Davidson team, who isn't playing to their talent now. Providence starts the wooden Legacy. Then the Big East- Big 12 and some other games, so I'm not saying the conference stinks, I'm just saying it NEEDS to be better. Hoyas, DePaul, and Butler are the only teams with good wins. That shouldn't be.
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Post by mdtd on Nov 24, 2019 22:47:20 GMT -5
What's their record..they were really good last year (deep NIT run?)..did they lose anybody? They were the first team out of the NCAA tournament last year. They are 5-2 (4-2 to D1) and lost to Kansas and Montana State (on a buzzer beater from half court). They lost guards Francis Alonso and Demetrius Troy, but Isaiah Miller, Kaleb Hunter and two freshmen have combined to fill their shoes. Their defense is just as good, if not better, though Alonso was their best scorer. They are a team that doesn't shoot it very well from deep, which should play into the Hoyas' favor.
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Post by mdtd on Nov 24, 2019 11:22:07 GMT -5
If anyone sleeps on this UNCG team, you are absolutely insane. This team can defend very well and are not afraid of anyone. They are an incredibly talented team and Wes Miller is an excellent coach. They have good guards in Isaiah Miller and Kaleb Hunter and James Dickey is a solid big man. They played Kansas very close and lost to Montana State on a half-court shot. This will be very close and the team will have to play very well. Against D1 teams, UNCG averages 52.4 ppg allowed. They are legit. Now, they don't have a great schedule aside from Kansas, but they will defend the entire time. Not an easy game. Nowhere near an easy game. This will be very close and UNCG is absolutely not a team you can sleep on. UNCG will win this game if the team from the first four games shows up.
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Post by mdtd on Nov 23, 2019 12:32:28 GMT -5
Was in the arena last night, hopefully this is the only time I feel the need to try to separate comments between officiating and the actual game Ref comments: - Was sitting next to normal Duke fans, and even they were like, "yea we've never seen anything like this for us"
- They didn't show a replay of the foul that caused Ewing to get a tech in the arena. Just saw replay on Sportscenter and that is just a bad call, Akinjo made zero contact. Mac has a layup underneath if it's a steal, so that amounted to a 5 point swing
- It's tough to rank which foul calls were worse. The "push off" on Akinjo vs. Carey was laughable, there was a charge on Mosely where he legitimately avoided contact and Carey fell down in 1st half, ball bounced off White's foot, Akinjo getting zero calls driving to the hoop. The crowd flipped out on Mac's 3rd foul which was tough because Jones didn't really have possession and it's a loose ball but to the ref Jones touched it last so he probably assumed he had control
- I've never seen anything like the Yurt7 review. I didn't realize calls could actually be overturned, I thought they could just review whether it was flagrant. I also now need to look up what a "cylinder" foul is, that's new. Bottom line is Duke flops like nothing I've ever seen, Coach K stands up and gets in refs ear on every single foul and they're afraid of him.
- I'm curious how the execution of the payoff to the refs actually works. Is it part of tuition, all alumni, just a few big boosters, Coach K himself? (I kid, i think)
There have been quite a few Duke fans who admitted that this game was officiated in their favor, which is refreshing. Still the insane ones, of course the typical Duke, Laker, Yankee, Patriot/Cowboy fans as expected. (I've been going back and forth with many of those people on other websites), but that's all beside the point I'm going to make. The call on Mac for his third was horrible. I think it's the least talked about horrible call. If the rule was Jones had full possession, than he traveled. He jump stopped while "holding" the ball and then took a step. He never had full possession, but if that's the ruling they want to make, the call was still absolutely horrible. Also, there was a play where Carey got a rebound and was hit in the face and a foul was called on Qudus Wahab. The only problem was, Qudus was 5 steps away from Carey and it was Jack White who hit him.
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Post by mdtd on Nov 23, 2019 0:12:50 GMT -5
Did you not think the Duke turnover / Mac steal and layup that was called a foul was a game changing play? I don’t think it was a horrible call. You have to make a call there. The refs were bad and we got the short end of the stick but it wasn’t one terribly one sided by any means. Charge calls were the ones that were the worst but our guys tend do be out of control on drives and the worst charge call of the night went against Duke. We also tend to play D with our hands and never jump straight up. Carey got his 3rd call right after half which should’ve been a big swing but it wasn’t. All of Yurt’s calls were proper and ultimately him getting those early ones were the biggest key as far as fouls go. Ok man, that's just plain egregious. That call was horrible. Nobody touched Stanley! Stanley pushed off, and Mac caught a ball thrown right to him. It was absolutely inexcusable. I could only think of one on Yurt, the first one which I would say was bad, but he just made mistakes. The ones that were the worst aside from the aforementioned turnover call were the one where White hit Carey in the face and Wahab got called for the foul and the Jack White out of bounds play. Those, with horrible officials averaging 1.275 calls per minute was insane. Some of the charge calls were horrible, but those went both ways. Some of the lose ball calls or shooting foul ones were insane. I felt the refs were hugely in duke's favor until after the Jack White call where they switched and the Hoyas got the benefit of the horrible block call on Wendell Moore. Plus a team playing with nothing to lose getting derailed with constant bad foul calls is just even worse. The calls poured in late first half and the Hoyas lost all momentum and came out at halftime plain terrible and that's where the game was lost.
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Post by mdtd on Nov 22, 2019 22:44:57 GMT -5
Good to improve on the trip. The team gets a well-deserved break before facing a very skilled team. The defense looks much better and Wahab played very well on this trip. If Omer can stay out of foul trouble, this team is looking very good.
Also, these refs should be fired and not allowed to see the college game again.
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