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Post by jld54 on Jan 20, 2018 19:24:07 GMT -5
To me the main thing was how the team would respond after the Nova game. While the talent, depth and roster construct is suboptimal, the team fought the whole way despite some sloppy play, etc.
A good sign of PE’s coaching ability.
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Post by jld54 on Jan 18, 2018 19:01:27 GMT -5
Let me first say that I was a JTIII supporter during his tenure at Georgetown. I thought tha Princeton style offense he brought to Georgetown was the right offense to bring the Hoyas all the way back to the top. The Princeton Offense on steroids as one announcer said when you could run it with superior athletes. It worked for the most part, at first because JTIII had made the team believe that his system could make the rest of the college world remember who Georgetown was. All the players even those with NBA hopes bought into the little things it took to run the offense, I.e., setting picks,constantly moving from one side of court to another, making crisp backdoor cuts, and making passes to another player who had a better shot than themselves. It was a beautiful thing to behold when all the players had that single goal of “ making the rest of the college B.B. world remember who Georgetown was”. When the Hoyas reached the Final Four in III’s third season most commentators declared that the Hoyas were back. That early success I think was the beginning of the end for JTIII because it solidified his personal belief that he could win it all if he had the right point/forward player/s to run his system. That he really did not need a traditional pg, and that he did not need traditional role players but instead have a team made up of combo guards and good forwards who were good passers and were also good 3pt shooters. His recruitment priorities then morphed into getting top players regardless of the abilities initially sought to run the Princeton style offense. This unfortunately resulted in players who did not have the necessary skills to run said offense. Tarik Turner Fox B.B. commentator, I believe, made the observation that many of the successful NBA teams now run a version of the Princeton Offense. He opined that it was easier to get a player who is being paid millions, to set a pick or pass to the person with a better shot than a high school or college player who is not being paid and is trying to improve his optics to get to the NBA to do the same thing. Therefore it became harder for III to get all his players to buy into his system. So when some were not doing or were not capable of doing all that was needed to make his system work, it started to decline. By the time he realized that a good floor general, pg, could create when the system was broken or was not operating proficiently on a given night it was too late. More worrisome were the optics the “in the huddle camera “ portrayed during timeouts by Fox FS1. It made it seem as though he did not have an answer when the system was not working. The successive seasons of mid-season transfers, right or wrong, gave the impression to the administration that he had lost his team. I thought and still do think that Waters and Lykes are transformative players, Waters moreso, who would have helped III, but would it be to transform the Hoyas into a running team as Ewing is trying to do, or solidify the Princeton On Steroids Offense initially dreamed of by III. Either way it was too late, the perception was that he was too tied to the Princeton to change. As “the-way” said it was time for a change. Perhaps the most cogent analysis of the JT3 issue yet.
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Post by jld54 on Jan 15, 2018 16:41:34 GMT -5
C'mon - that's not why we passed or why he wasn't a good match. We have 3 scholarships and this kid has a lot of talent and can shoot, which we need. There had to have been another reason other than "he's not a PG". We may not even end up with a pure point next year. Have to agree. If the reason is he doesn’t play a position of need, why were we in it until the end? There must have been another reason, but the rest is speculation. My comment was not referencing why he isn’t coming. It is a comment on the impact of his not coming. Put another way, it would’ve been far more damaging if a top 40 guard was in the running, but is not coming to GU. Why he’s not coming is, frankly, speculation, and irrelevant in the long run.
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Post by jld54 on Jan 15, 2018 15:58:49 GMT -5
As an aside, just perusing St. John's and Syracuse boards they simply post that Tucker chose Butler over Ewing and Georgetown. That is not the optic we want, so I see nothing wrong with "leaking" (if we did, AND if it is true) that we passed on him. It appears that this player was not a good match. We have more pressing needs at the guard spots — namely players with good instincts, handle and scoring ability.
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Post by jld54 on Jan 13, 2018 22:25:22 GMT -5
Agreed. Pickett is the type of player that would get 10-15 minutes on a top level team, and get PT after some seasoning. Patrick does not have this luxury and Pickett and Blair as well are thrown in above their heads and are undergoing a baptism by fire. Also, as another poster mentioned recently, he joined the program very late in the summer and did not come in with the other frosh to become acclimated to the campus, etc. He may be hitting the wall a bit early because of this and need time to get stronger as well.
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Post by jld54 on Jan 13, 2018 13:48:24 GMT -5
This about as expected. Not embarrassed just beat soundly...
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Post by jld54 on Jan 13, 2018 13:37:53 GMT -5
This is simply an example of a real talent/experience diferential. The kids try and PE coaches them, but...
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Post by jld54 on Jan 9, 2018 19:27:39 GMT -5
We have twice the rebounds and SJU is shooting horribly but the turnovers once again are the weakness.
No guards plus subpar handles at SF = disaster.
End of story.
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Post by jld54 on Dec 31, 2017 14:56:15 GMT -5
It is amazing that two senior PGs do not score in 31 minutes, have 8 TOs and no assists, and we only lose by 9 at a tough place to play. And when you add that Rousey torched our guards for 35, it is even more amazing.
It will be a long season and unless there is major improvement in the backcourt we are looking at 4 or fewer BE wins. The good news is that the team did not give up and hung in until the end. Hopefully our core stays intact and healthy next year and we get more backcourt help with McClung and Malinowski next year.
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Post by jld54 on Dec 30, 2017 18:40:03 GMT -5
Pat deserves some heat for playing Mulmore during crunch time. What is he watching? There aren’t other options...so what? Play a big lineup. Ridiculous. Who else is he going to play -- go big with whom? There is NO bench.
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Post by jld54 on Dec 30, 2017 18:38:13 GMT -5
The same problem as the one going back nearly a decade, we cannot stop other teams guards. Rowsey and Baldwin are good but we make them into stars.
And compounding this is the horrific ball handling and turnovers. MU had 20 points off our 25 turnovers.
I think PE and the guys are trying hard but the skills just are not there...
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Post by jld54 on Dec 30, 2017 18:34:47 GMT -5
Mulmore just had an awful game. He tries hard but...
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Post by jld54 on Dec 30, 2017 17:58:28 GMT -5
Now we know why we played cupcakes...
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Post by jld54 on Dec 30, 2017 17:50:18 GMT -5
Our FG% D is very good and we are killing them 25-15 on the boards.
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Post by jld54 on Dec 30, 2017 17:47:56 GMT -5
Dickerson = no BB IQ. Sad!
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Post by jld54 on Dec 30, 2017 17:39:28 GMT -5
Really it is the turnovers that is costing this team. 21 vs Butler helped cost that game Today already have 15 to's with a full half yet to play This team could easily have 30 to's by the time the game is over. 100% correct. the TO's are the difference, leading to 20 vs. 33 shots.
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Post by jld54 on Dec 16, 2017 16:15:00 GMT -5
ATTACKING THE PRESS. www.coachesclipboard.net/PressBreak.html All the Hoyas needed to do was Jessie or Derrickson at half court to break Cuses press. smh The Hoyas were not prepared for Cuse's press. Unbelievable. But with MD out on a bogus fifth foul we were stuck the last five mutes of regulation...
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Post by jld54 on Dec 16, 2017 16:13:35 GMT -5
In summary, we need a PG. 100% correct. We have better front court that SU, but their guards are better. In the last 5 minutes a good team needs a floor general, and we lack one. Moseley is a very good player but lacks the handle and it showed. This has been the achilles heel of GU since Markelle Starks graduated.
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Post by jld54 on Dec 16, 2017 14:47:28 GMT -5
Derrickson fouling out a killler.
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Post by jld54 on Dec 10, 2017 17:31:04 GMT -5
They're not over the top with it like Goodman is. He also had a lot to say about III being on the integrity commission. Borderline implying he was dirty. Criticism is fair but he appears to go out of his way to shade Georgetown imo True, but I'd bet most Hoya fans don't follow Goodman on twitter or care what he has to say.. I'd also bet most Hoya fans do read the Post articles after games, they're always posted on the board.. Their articles help to shape the local narrative about this season & the program imo.. To me headlines that read like the ones below are over the top.. " Georgetown cupcake: Hoyas keep running past the also-rans, rout Maine" or " Georgetown slowly pulls away from Coppin State, its latest overmatched opponent" or " Georgetown makes way through cupcake line, eases past Howard" More Fake News and snark. Sad!
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