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Post by jld54 on Aug 27, 2018 12:03:52 GMT -5
This program was in steady decline for most of this decade. Patrick came into a roster in Near total shambles, and was barely able to put a respectable team on the floor. Don’t forget, this team lost twice to St. John’s, and once to DePaul last year. This is hyperbole--2017-18 was not "near total shambles" by any good definition. Ewing returned three starters and nine lettermen from a 2016-17 team that was was an underachieving team, finished 5-13 in the Big East, and suffered the ignominy of the school's second opening round loss in 37 years. A year later, it finished 5-13 in the Big East and suffered the ignominy of the school's third opening round loss in 38 years. Signs of life? Yes, but not much in net improvement. For an example of a much more shambolic lineup, ask some of us about the 1997-98 roster: Graduated: Cheikh Dia Godwin Owinje Left: Victor Page (March) Jerry Nichols (May) Shamel Jones (June) Ed Sheffey (August) Injured: Ruben Boumtje-Boumtje (season ending injury after 6 games) Jahidi White (season ending injury after 12 games) Also: Kenny Brunner (quits mid-season) Anthony Perry (ineligible for season) What Was Left: Trez Kilpatrick Joe Touomou Daymond Jackson Dean Berry Shernard Long Boubacar Aw Nat Burton Rhese Gibson Jameel Watkins I was referring to the roster that Patrick inherited after JT3 was fired. That roster was in complete shambles. Given and Marcus were the only players that would have revived major PT on a top 1/2 BE team last year. Whether or not it was worse than the late 90s is immaterial. Plus, we lost Tremont waters at that time, as well.
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Post by jld54 on Aug 27, 2018 12:00:56 GMT -5
This program was in steady decline for most of this decade. Patrick came into a roster in Near total shambles, and was barely able to put a respectable team on the floor. Don’t forget, this team lost twice to St. John’s, and once to DePaul last year. It will take at least three years to determine if the PE experiment will succeed. Other programs have had a much longer time making connections with this class so we have this disadvantage as well. I agree with those posters that state we need to improve on the court in order to begin to attract top talent. There is no doubt that Patrick has hustled to get players, and at this juncture, we should not complain that they are decommits , transfers, etc. so long as they are recently talented and fit with the academics and other program qualities. For facts sakes only, we lost to St. John's once last season (BIG EAST Tournament). I stand corrected - Was thinking of the year before. Nonetheless, our record last year was still rather an inspiring! I believe that the roster this year has been upgraded, especially with better guard play – – the two freshman, and Malinowski as a shooter.
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Post by jld54 on Aug 27, 2018 10:16:08 GMT -5
Just to put things in perspective, this time last year we had zero commits. Mac and Akinjo were committed to Rutgers and UConn and Omer was in Raleigh, NC. True but the staff was in tight with Carter, LeBlanc & Fleming.. Plus Xavier Johnson seemed to want in, so the seeds of the 2017 aau recruiting season sprouted pretty well for the staff.. If we're being technical, I could easily argue that the work the staff did with Mac over the summer helped them when he dropped Rutgers... This program was in steady decline for most of this decade. Patrick came into a roster in Near total shambles, and was barely able to put a respectable team on the floor. Don’t forget, this team lost twice to St. John’s, and once to DePaul last year. It will take at least three years to determine if the PE experiment will succeed. Other programs have had a much longer time making connections with this class so we have this disadvantage as well. I agree with those posters that state we need to improve on the court in order to begin to attract top talent. There is no doubt that Patrick has hustled to get players, and at this juncture, we should not complain that they are decommits , transfers, etc. so long as they are recently talented and fit with the academics and other program qualities.
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Post by jld54 on Aug 9, 2018 5:18:00 GMT -5
When did he say he wants a one and done mill with no real educational standards, and a shady past? So Duke is a one & done mill with no educational standards and a shady past? When did he say that he wants to be a one and done mill like Duke?
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Post by jld54 on Aug 8, 2018 21:34:02 GMT -5
If you are a one and done what possible reason would you have for picking GU? If I recall correctly Cal and Coach K are on prominent display at the draft when their mini-pros are picked in the first round and usually in the lottery. The Kentucky/Duke model is on an entirely different level and not one that a school like GU will or should be. PE has said this is the model he wants for Gtown though... When did he say he wants a one and done mill with no real educational standards, and a shady past?
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Post by jld54 on Aug 8, 2018 15:04:17 GMT -5
If you are a one and done what possible reason would you have for picking GU? If I recall correctly Cal and Coach K are on prominent display at the draft when their mini-pros are picked in the first round and usually in the lottery. The Kentucky/Duke model is on an entirely different level and not one that a school like GU will or should be.
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Post by jld54 on Jun 10, 2018 11:36:22 GMT -5
Over the last 20 years is there a Gtown pg that we can compare Akinjo to? Would the closest comparison be Markel Starks? A taller Kenny Brunner with a better outside shot....and no sword. “...and no sword.” Excellent.
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Post by jld54 on May 8, 2018 13:13:06 GMT -5
The one and done rule isn't the NCAA's fault. Its the NBA's. Some of her criticism is valid and poignant, some of it is directed at the wrong people. Looks like another person who wants to have their cake and eat it too. She asserts that the school should “have someone in the player’s ear” regarding getting an education. Is that not her responsibility as a parent? And I would like to know what stops her soon to be multimillionaire son from getting his degree over the next several summers, either in person or online. What stopped her son from staying in school for 2 to 3 years, to limit the barrier to getting the degree after he goes to the league and makes millions?. A total hypocrite.
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Post by jld54 on Apr 28, 2018 9:30:39 GMT -5
Bingo! The kid has size, seems quick off his feet, and has natural shot-blocking skills. Give him a year to develop as a redshirt, al a the Nova formula. He can work on his body and offensive skills at this time. For those concerned about his offensive game, he can contribute at first buckets off feeds, pick and rolls, and putbacks. We have a long way to go to rebuild the program, a guy like this can be a piece if all works out.
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Post by jld54 on Apr 7, 2018 19:12:56 GMT -5
Look if he’s big enough to say sorry I’m big enough to accept his apology. Children, please!
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Post by jld54 on Apr 7, 2018 18:30:28 GMT -5
I’d say you continually belabouring your point sort of proves mine. You folks have to calm down and stop the sniping. You are silly.
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Post by jld54 on Apr 2, 2018 5:31:04 GMT -5
This entire discussion makes little sense. I sincerely doubt that a guy who may have gone late first round last year will sit out a year and then play one more year in college.
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Post by jld54 on Mar 28, 2018 9:47:26 GMT -5
Wow, the Trump Derangement Syndrome prevalent on CNN et al is alive and kicking on this board as well. Sad!
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Post by jld54 on Mar 7, 2018 21:22:26 GMT -5
What adjustment could Ewing have made tonight with this roster? I’ll give you one - Govan needed a rest early second half and didn’t get it. I think that hurt is. But when he’s one of only two guys giving you any scoring, tough to sit. You do not think that any defensive adjustments could have been made? How can you adjust - we have two bigs who are the only offensive options. Zero big depth. What possible adjustment can be made?
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Post by jld54 on Mar 7, 2018 21:09:37 GMT -5
It should be over soon, mercifully. Patrick did a good job with what he had, but it was not nearly enough. CBB is a guards game, and our guards outside of Dickerson are something like 1-15, and none can make a stop. Unless and until we get good, athletic guards it will be the same old story. MD and Jessie cannot win 2 on 5, especially with absolutely no depth behind them.
The roster construction has been horrible for years, and this is the end result. Unbalanced classes, with no homegrown senior class, and only Moseley in soph class. It will take the 2018 and 2019 classes, and probably yet another year, until PE can turn the corner.
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Post by jld54 on Feb 25, 2018 6:55:38 GMT -5
Just watched game on DVR and it’s one I have to say I was disappointed in the Hoyas play the second half. Not do much the execution , but the toughness of play. Cooley told the reporter after the half, that he had instructed his players to be more physical with the Hoyas and they did. What was disappointing was the response of the Hoyas. They were getting slapped in the face and were falling down and waiting for the refs to call a foul. There was a reason Cooley had a six game win streak against JTIII and the Hoyas, his teams would out tough them the majority of the time and they did again today. Ewing was right to get the T from the refs, because they were letting Providence manhandle the Hoyas, especially down low. Patrick’s outburst was twofold,(1) to get the T from the refs and send a message to them, and(2) to send a message to his players that they were going to have to play tougher. Cooley took a page out of Mack’ s playbook and had his guards get in the grill of the zhoyss guards the 2nd half an for the most part the Hoya guards became passive and would not drive to the basket and also were passive in their feeds in the post to Govan and Derrickson. The tight coverage made them wait just a fraction longer to pass, resulting in many missed open looks to the post. More drives to the basket was needed to make them back off, but only Moseley did a couple of times but not nearly enough. Patrick said early on that he was trying to change the culture of the Hoyas and we have seen a more focused and versatile on offense Govan and Derrickson. They both have taken his mentor ship and played above last years efforts but today they were being B-slapped and I did not see the Patrick Ewing-Michael Graham response I thought I would see. Derrickson getting stuffed twice under the hoop was disheartening. I know he does not have a lot of lift, but you have got to go up and try to put the defenders arm through the basket on both attempts, not layups. Baby steps. The attitude Cooley had his guys playing with the second half The problem is that Providence has 3 seniors who have though the BE wars, including its starting backcourt. Secondly, the lack of any depth behind Govan and MD showed again. It is tough to deal with the physicality and mental toughness of the game without any real rest. Plus they must play not to foul, so they inevitably give up some easy hoops. The basic flaws continue to manifest themselves as the season goes on, but in all it is a better than expected outcome. Amazingly we have been blown out only twice - Nova and Creighton at home. You can see a plan and purpose to the team on offense, and it is fair to think that better players in PE system will produce a better outcome. On defense there is really no baseline yet as our bigs are not great to begin with and must play matador D due to lack of depth. And the guards, well... Hopefully adding Mac, the two forwards and Malinowski will improve the depth, and losing Mulmore and Dickerson is not fatal. I hope we can pick up a few late recruits - a solid guard and some size up front.
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Post by jld54 on Feb 10, 2018 18:25:09 GMT -5
Finally, a breakthrough!
PE has kept the team focused and working hard, after some very tough/close losses. Bodes well for the future.
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Post by jld54 on Feb 7, 2018 21:34:55 GMT -5
I watched a few minutes. The level of competition was similar to that when I coached in a 6th grade rec league in a NY suburb. You cannot make any judgment concerning Mac's abilities in a setting like this. Not being negative, just realistic. He can be a solid 4 year contributor -- lets hope and wait and see.
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Post by jld54 on Feb 7, 2018 6:15:17 GMT -5
Unless and until we get good guards this will happen. At the end of the game it is all about guard play.
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Post by jld54 on Jan 28, 2018 5:53:42 GMT -5
I now understand why Juggy shoots bad shots so often. Nobody wants to take the big shots but him and Marcus....... Exactly, the Hoyas play the whole game with at the most 3 against 5 on offense. Like having one hand behind your back all night. It is what it is, but this team played hard with the handicaps the had. They were worn down at the end, having to play pressure defense with a shortened bench(Moseley’s injury) and still cut the lead to 2. That’s the fight Patrick is looking for. If they had had that fight against DePaul, they would have won going away. Baby steps I think that the 3 on 5 comment hits the nail on the head. Opponents have a simple game plan. Swarm Govan and Derrickson to get the ball out of their hands. There are only two guys, Blair and Pickett that can possibly hurt you from deep. But they are freshmen and thus inconsistent. Even if one is on, that makes three guys. You leave the rest of the team open from the perimeter knowing that you will not get hurt over 40 minutes. Anyone who has played basketball at any level - from pick up hoops to competitive play - knows to leave open a guy who cannot shoot. Combined with turnover prone players at almost every position, a team that can not afford foul trouble due to lack of depth up front, and no lock down perimeter players on D, it is easy to see why any good opponent will beat us. This is why PE took a hard look at his team and decided to play the preseason schedule that we did. Better to avoid an 8-19 record that would hurt in in recruiting, and possibly demoralize the team.To Patrick’s credit the team played hard last night and he has not lost them, unlike the teams of recent past down the stretch.
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