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Post by hifigator on Feb 4, 2010 14:38:51 GMT -5
Just the day before yesterday the Missouri to Big 10 and Arkansas to Big 12 got some more press. There was apparently an article about it on Sproting News or ESPN. Then the local sports talk show threw out the topic that if that were to happen, who should the SEC look to add. The most common suggestions were Georgia Tech and Clemson. Personally, I think that if that were to happen, then USF should get a look. Florida is certainly big enough to support 2 SEC schools and it would add a nice market to the SEC that it doesn't currently have. From USF's point, I would think they would jump at the chance, and let's face it: USF being in the Big East has never made sense. What is their closest conference foe?
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Post by hifigator on Feb 4, 2010 14:09:10 GMT -5
Missed a chance to win the game today. Should have had an easy offensive rebound that he could've put back to win with 2 seconds left. Yeah, all the focus down here was on a tough miss of a relatively easy shot by Tyus, but what jumped out at me was that Macklin crashed the boards too hard. He had position and could have held his ground and gone straight up, but instead he "rushed it" and the ball bounced over his head. Oh well, it was a tough loss for sure. I was still proud of the effort the guys put out though.
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Post by hifigator on Jan 21, 2010 1:38:14 GMT -5
HiFi wrote:
Actually, I've heard a lot of people upset that we are in for 2 solid weeks of either a Brett Favre lovefest or incessant reminders of what New Orleans has been through since Katrina.
Boz responded:
I think you made this up.
I certainly did not!
then
Please cite references of ANYONE of significance who is begrudging New Orleans its day in the sun because of the Saints.
And if you don't have anyone of significance, which I think you don't, then links to message boards expressing this opinion will do if that's all you have. Actually, I would appreciate any such links so that I can log into those message boards and tell everyone on there what a-holes they are.
While I totally agree that any barbs thrown their direction would be far worse than "merely" insensitive, I also think you totally miss my point. Furthermore, I don't begrudge anyone much of anything. In fact, I think my ideological standpoint confirms as much. That being said, I think you might have honestly misunderstood my point. If the Saints win, then we will be inundated with incessant reminders of Katrina and the resulting devastation. Political undertones will be an unavoidable ingredient, regardless of any particular perspective, when the real tragedy that we would all recognize crosses all borders. The tragedy in Haiti only worsens any such memories, for those in any way connected to either. But putting aside any political connection, the story itself will be fatiguing, at the very least. I'm not begrudging anyone anything, but from what I have heard, everyone involved has long since moved along and is trying to put things behind them ... if they haven't already. In any case, I certainly meant nothing critical of those affected by Katrina.
On the other hand, if the Vikings win, we will all be inundated with two weeks of a Favre Lovefest. Ask RDF if you don't believe me. And trust me ... he really hates having to agree with me.
exorcist wrote:
I won't begrudge New Orleans its day in the sun if they win - I'm rooting for them - but hifi is right. If the Saints win, every single news organization will do some "and, with every touchdown the Saints score, the city moves a little closer to normal". It's Olympics Syndrome - the focusing on the the brother who has cancer or the dog that got run over or whatever that overwhelm the story, and try this BS that ties the result of a football game to Katrina recovery.
And I'm not saying that the Saints don't help the city, and that the ability to rally behind the Saints provided some function of civic pride. But the media are going to be harping on this obvious, obvious story until it's weaseld into your brain like a nasty little insect and where any drinking game for the pregame and the Super Bowl that includes the words "drink when there's a Katrina reference" is going to induce alcohol poisoning.
If the Vikings win, there will the same number of stories about Brett Favre. But, given that any reference to the Old Gunslinger Who's Having Fun Like a Little Kid isn't disrespectful to dealing with the tragedy of Katrina and its aftermath, I'm cool with that.
very well said. I should have read down further and saved myself the typing ...
rooter wrote:
This is surely true, except that I hope the stories won't be so insipid as to imply that winning a football game or a Super Bowl somehow makes things better. But they probably will.
As far as the Old Bullslinger is concerned, I can't begrudge him the season he's had, but he's still a jerk, and I still hope he loses.
again, I should have read down further .... although I do disagree, since I would love to see Percy Harvin win a ring in his first year. If he can accomplish that, then he will have been at the pinnacle of his sport 3 of the past 4 years. (actually, maybe more ... don't remember how he did in high school ...)
In any case, I am a Vikings fan for the moment.
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Post by hifigator on Jan 19, 2010 15:04:50 GMT -5
WISH HIM well BUT you know if hed only said he was gonna transfer like two weeks early mr. reynolds woulda been a hoya yup woulda coulda shoulda dont count but if josh had only transfered like two........ any way close counts only in horseshoes and dancing... but the big dance ah whatever good luck Bless Thornton for his part in keeping Scottie off the Hoya roster. Scottie is not a good player. I know this because I have been following HoyaTalk for the last four years and too many people have said he's no good. ed, I have to admit that I was thinking the exact same thing. Also, lic has been here long enough to know that Scottie isn't any good, as well.
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Post by hifigator on Jan 19, 2010 14:56:33 GMT -5
Actually, I've heard a lot of people upset that we are in for 2 solid weeks of either a Brett Favre lovefest or incessant reminders of what New Orleans has been through since Katrina. Personally, the worst part for me is that either the Jets or the Indianapolis Mannings will be on one side. Ugh ...
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Post by hifigator on Jan 19, 2010 14:52:37 GMT -5
hifi, any coach preaches religion and then bangs a 23 year old school employee behind his wifes back is a scumbag. he is a first class piece of garbage. Umm, are we talking about Rick Pitino now?
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Post by hifigator on Jan 18, 2010 17:03:19 GMT -5
Vado, I expected someone to say something along those lines. Congratulations. But getting back to the topic ...
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Post by hifigator on Jan 18, 2010 15:34:30 GMT -5
Incidentally, I just called into the show during the second hour and asked him on the air. I told him that even though I disagreed with his point all along, the past few weeks of the NFL at least support his position, but my question to him was where was he going with this? Was he advocating getting rid of the NFL playoffs or cutting them back so they didn't included 9-7 teams like the Jets?
He had to kind of dance around a bit and then said that he was really talking about college football and pointing out general playoff disadvantages, such as those we have had this year in the NFL. So basically he was just talking to hear himself talk. He did admit that in the pros, teams that win their division with inferior records to those that don't win their division are just something you have to accept -- a part of the game, if you will. He paralleled it with a baseball team that wins its division with 80 or 85 wins while a 90 win team in another division doesn't. Again, I don't think he sees the clear contradiction in his logic, but it's good for discussion.
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Post by hifigator on Jan 18, 2010 15:05:28 GMT -5
Boz, I wouldn't argue with you, but there is at least some legitimacy to his argument. But the natural question I have for him is where he's going with this argument? If you accept his support, then what? Is he advocating the NFL getting rid of ... or at least pairing down its playoff system? That would be the only logical choice from his argument ... correct?
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Post by hifigator on Jan 18, 2010 15:00:28 GMT -5
For those inquisitive minds, we had computer issues both at home and here at work. At work we had something like 400 corrupted files. As our MalWare removal programs were being "installed," they were also being "deleted" by something. A friend of mine from the University came over and was able to get it going temporarily, but we still couldn't do much. Something would hijack the address and send us to random other sites trying to solicit products. He ended up having to wipe the drive and reinstall XP. He then set up our personal accounts as "limited access" accounts. That way we can't inadvertantly install some adware.
At home, we were having problems with our modem and router interfering with each other and we couldn't get online with both at the same time. I had to defer to my daughter who was doing here homework in the evenings.
In any case, it's a little late on the Del Rio rumor. I for one, was really hoping he would leave -- not for the reason freemoney mentioned, but just so that the Jags could be rid of him without having to pay the $15 Million buyout. Supposedly the 3 years he has left on his contract are guaranteed at $5 Mil. a piece.
As for the Jags taking Tebow, that is certainly a hot rumor. My gut feeling is that they will, but unless his stock shoots up at the combines and workouts, I don't see him going in the first round. I do think that Jax. will "overbid" on him, so to speak though, because they really need him to put butts in the seats. They are really, really close to losing that franchise, probably to L.A.
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Post by hifigator on Jan 18, 2010 14:50:03 GMT -5
I normally don't put a lot of stock in that overused theory that teams that have to claw back from big defecits often run out of gas and then can't close the deal by completing the comeback with a win, but it did look to me like the guys were a half-step slower at the end of the game. Could it have been fatigue -- mental or physical? Hifi, what state do you reside in? Did you see the game via satellite? I don't think the team was a step slower in the last minutes. And I don't think fatigue matter much because the last 3 minutes took 25 minutes to play because of all the timeouts and free throws. The key is that down the stretch the Hoyas missed their last 9 three-point shots. I'm here in Florida. The Alehouse was where I was. I'm virtually positive it is satellite. Yeah, the threes were certainly the main key, but again, don't they say that when you get tired your legs go first. And that would only matter all the more on outside jumpers. Actually though, I was talking more about on defense. It seemed like Nova was a half step quicker on drives and at least a couple of times the guys seemed to get "tired" fouls where they reached instead of moving their feet. Just my observation, and again, I was really asking from the angle of having to overcome a big lead. The old adage is that the trailing team burns so much energy, both physical and emotional, getting back into the game that it is very hard to close the deal. It would be interesting to see some statistic from teams that did come back in such situations to tie the game. I don't think I ever have.
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Post by hifigator on Jan 18, 2010 14:35:24 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure most of us here are college football advocates. For that matter, the overwhelming majority of opinions that I see, hear and read are as well.
There is one host of a local show down here, however, that has been a supporter of the bowl system. His primary supporting argument is that a playoff would somehow "cheapen" the regular season. While I disagree with hi, recently he has luckily stumbled onto some supporting evidence. Given that most proposed playoff systems start with automatic bids to conference champions, he points out the decreased significance of many year ending rivalry games. While Ohio State-Michigan would still have tremendous importance most years, other games like Florida-FSU would not from that perspective. He often mentions the '92 UF-FSU game in this argument. Quickly for those who don't remember, Florida had clinched a spot in the SEC title game against Bama the next week. As a school that had never officially won an SEC title, Spurrier had that as the ultimate goal, so he chose to rest many key players and not risk injury, including starting QB Shane Matthews. While a loss in that game would certainly hurt either team in the rankings, if it's a conference title that gets you into the playoffs, then it's tough to argue that logic.
Similarly, this year teams like the Bengals, Colts, Saints and Chargers had sewn up their playoff bids and for the most part, their seeding as well. Therefore we were subjected to many rather boring games the last weekend or two. Additionally, certain teams benefitted greatly by the sheer luck of a favorable schedule. Who would have thought that the Jets finishing with the Colts and Bengals would work in their favor, but it did.
Lastly, he points out the very lackluster games of the first two weeks of this year's NFL playoffs. I don't know where he is going with this argument, but again, at least on the surface he makes a valid point. Last weekend, in the wildcard games, there was really only one "good" game, the Cardinals-Packers. And if truth be told, only really one good half. The first half of that game was also lackluster.
This past weekend, again there were 3 mostly uncontested games and one -- at least in my opinion -- rather boring close game in the Jets victory over the Chargers. The host then follows up that point by pointing out that the Jets were a 9-7 team and that would be akin to a 7-5 college team making the playoffs and rhetorically asking if we "really want a 7-5 Georgia team in the playoffs for example.
Ultimatey he seems to tie it all together with the Jets, suggesting that here's a team that luckily benefitted by playing a couple of teams that were mailing it in the last two weeks of the regular season to get in the playoffs and then put together a solid couple of games to get within one win of the Super Bowl. At least in this regard, his point of the playoffs lessening the importance of the regular season is tough to argue.
Thoughts??
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Post by hifigator on Jan 18, 2010 12:14:46 GMT -5
I normally don't put a lot of stock in that overused theory that teams that have to claw back from big defecits often run out of gas and then can't close the deal by completing the comeback with a win, but it did look to me like the guys were a half-step slower at the end of the game. Could it have been fatigue -- mental or physical?
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Post by hifigator on Jan 18, 2010 11:54:34 GMT -5
I'm not sure why you call him a scumbag. Personally I reserve such terms for the likes of Calipari or Jackie Sherill for example. Meyer is passionate -- to a fault perhaps. Also, while I would disagree, you could at least support claims of his being a "drama queen." But scumbag ... not even close.
Now, what kind of stereo are you looking for -- home, car or DJ?
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Post by hifigator on Jan 18, 2010 11:50:53 GMT -5
I wonder how that would affect relatives? Sidney Green, Taurean's father, was hired by the Gators around the time that Taurean played. I don't remember the specific details, but there was never any hint that there was something shady about the deal. Of course Sidney had a long history including playing and coaching in the NBA and Taurean wasn't a high-profile recruit. In any case, from reading that article, it looks like that would be a violation now. Also, didn't Calipari hire someone in some way connected with Rose when he was at Memphis?
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Post by hifigator on Jan 18, 2010 11:38:55 GMT -5
I finally just read the article. I'm not sure I buy that. It was first posted on an Ohio St. web forum and then started making the rounds on similar gossip sites. If I had to guess, there is probably some truth to it, insofar as to say that there was a phone call. Floyd probably admitted to being confused or torn between the programs. Meyer did probably tell Floyd to do what's best for him and probably added that in his opinion, he and the Florida program would be best. He might have brouhgt up the "family" angle, but that has pretty much been proven to be true. Under Meyer, the players are constantly talking about how they aren't just teammates, but are family. I'm sure most programs have a degree of that, but Meyer has made it a focul point even to the point of almost adopting the kids who really need it.
In any case, somehow, I have a hard time believing that the conversation went like this:
"Hi coach, it's Shariff."
"Hello Mr. Floyd. How are you today?
"Well coach, I'm a little confused right now. I like Florida and you and the other coaches, but I also feel at home in Columbus, around Tressel and his staff."
"Well, we're a family here. In fact I had a dream last night and I was coaching on the sidelines. I looked over and there you were. That's a sign from God that he wants you to be a Gator."
"Well, that sounds good coach, but if God wanted ME to be a Gator, why didn't I have the dream?"
"That's easy. I am the coach here at Florida where you are going to be playing. And let me reassure you that if need be, I will die for you."
Somehow, doesn't that seem a bit far fetched?
I think we all know the answer to that question.
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Post by hifigator on Jan 18, 2010 11:24:50 GMT -5
As someone who grew up a Cowboys fan, since they were the only team on TV every week at 4pm, I still had no problems thoroughly enjoying the Vikings victory. When Emmitt Smith left the Boys years ago, I "severed all ties." Jerry Jones is about as unlikable as is humanly possible and of course, I was never much of a Jimmy Johnson or Barry Switzer fan either. With Harvin to root for, Go Vikings!
RDF, I see you're still holding that "soft spot" in your heart for Favre. Hee hee hee ...
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Post by hifigator on Jan 15, 2010 16:30:29 GMT -5
Oh, I'm just dying to get home so I can see what kind of insigtful footage you have given us ...
By the way, some are suggesting that this year's Florida recruiting class might be the best class ever put together by any school -- at least on paper. Obviously, we will have to wait and see if that comes close to fruition.
Lastly, I still don't see any reason to think that Meyer is being anything less than genuine and honest. I don't see any reason to think he's being disingenuous.
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Post by hifigator on Jan 15, 2010 16:05:23 GMT -5
my quick thoughts:
If Tennessee thought that they had a long term coach in Kiffin, then they have no one to blame but themselves. But in fairness, one year was certainly unexpected. As for Dooley, whom I am 90% sure is a son of Vince Dooley, I don't know what to expect. I haven't really followed him at all. I don't discount him for not having made a name for himself yet. In fact, I think we are finally getting to the point where major programs think outside the box. Far too long coaches have been hired because of their previous coaching experience -- even if such experience was a bad thing. The success of coaches like Meyer among others, is a good thing. Guys like Patterson and Peterson should be getting more "big name" jobs very shortly.
As for USC, I think it's ironic that when USC is on the edge of getting NCAA sanctions, they hired Kiffin, otherwise known as a walking infraction. That'll really clean up the program. On the other hand, at least it will make it easier on the NCAA, not having to concentrate on both southern California and Knoxville at the same time.
Lastly, one caller had the novel idea of having one school go after both Leavitt and Leach as co-head coaches each focusing on his specialty -- offense and defense as the case may be. I know it will never happen, but I think that would be a pretty good formula for success.
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Post by hifigator on Jan 12, 2010 3:19:17 GMT -5
I just thought that, given the recent events, it might be a good time to bring this back to the top.
DanMcQ wrote:
Despite all the travails insinuated by a still-mourning gator, USC managed to beat those ne'er-do-wells from BenedictArnold College in the rain at the Emerald Bowl in PacBell Park yesterday.
While BC supporters are blaming the referees for stealing the game, I suspect the absence of the BC marching band, left home to preserve the riches that accrue from participating in the ACC, that is truly to blame.
Meanwhile, what if all is not chest pain in Florida? God love the internet, where anyone can post whatever they like without the need for foundation or accuracy!
Aside from the insensitive health references -- akin to applauding and cheering when an opposing player gets hurt -- I think the key is the underlying substance. My suggestion from the beginning was clear. Problems ... serious, most likely at USC. In spite of all attempts to redirect the attention to Florida or Boston College or UCLA, where it didn't belong in this case, I still must attempt to redirect the topic.
P.S. Off the record, I don't care for the Trojans or the BC Eagles.
Back to the topic at hand ... pardon me, while I laugh ...
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