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Post by DanMcQ on Jul 18, 2022 15:52:51 GMT -5
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hoyas315
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Post by hoyas315 on Jul 18, 2022 16:42:41 GMT -5
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Post by prhoya on Jul 18, 2022 16:46:13 GMT -5
Congrats to Recruiting Coordinator/Associate Head Coach Nickelberry!
DFW, when was the last time we had an Associate Head Coach? Esh under JT2?
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Post by SDHoya on Jul 18, 2022 17:04:42 GMT -5
Aside from a well deserved recognition of the incredible job it appears Nick has done recruiting in the brief time since his hire--does the elevation to "associate head coach" have any practical significance?
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Post by jpj on Jul 18, 2022 17:18:46 GMT -5
Aside from a well deserved recognition of the incredible job it appears Nick has done recruiting in the brief time since his hire--does the elevation to "associate head coach" have any practical significance? Just guessing 1) additional salary? 2) better sounding title 3) additional recruiting importance to HS and transfer players? 4) better looking resume for his next job? 5) easier to get a head coaching job?
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Post by SDHoya on Jul 18, 2022 17:42:27 GMT -5
Aside from a well deserved recognition of the incredible job it appears Nick has done recruiting in the brief time since his hire--does the elevation to "associate head coach" have any practical significance? Just guessing 1) additional salary? 2) better sounding title 3) additional recruiting importance to HS and transfer players? 4) better looking resume for his next job? 5) easier to get a head coaching job? Got the ceremonial/honorary bit--I'm really asking if his actual job duties/responsibilities are different?
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Post by hoyaboya on Jul 18, 2022 17:48:16 GMT -5
Aside from a well deserved recognition of the incredible job it appears Nick has done recruiting in the brief time since his hire--does the elevation to "associate head coach" have any practical significance? Just guessing 1) additional salary? 2) better sounding title 3) additional recruiting importance to HS and transfer players? 4) better looking resume for his next job? 5) easier to get a head coaching job? I think providing a substantive reason to get more money into his bank account - i.e., #1 on this list - is the primary rationale.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jul 18, 2022 19:40:09 GMT -5
Aside from a well deserved recognition of the incredible job it appears Nick has done recruiting in the brief time since his hire--does the elevation to "associate head coach" have any practical significance? Just guessing 1) additional salary? 2) better sounding title 3) additional recruiting importance to HS and transfer players? 4) better looking resume for his next job? 5) easier to get a head coaching job? Short answer: yes to all the above. Many schools use the title as a "first among equals" where one assistant handles recruiting, or to a former head coach who took a step back to be an assistant. In most cases, the associate HC will get a head coach offer in the future so this is one way to remain a relevant candidate. In business terms, think of it as an SVP - still not the president, but a bump from VP. DFW, when was the last time we had an Associate Head Coach? Esh under JT2? The term was not in use then. Current GU teams that use an associate head coach include women's basketball, baseball, men's lacrosse, rowing, and track and field.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Jul 18, 2022 21:31:50 GMT -5
This seems well deserved and makes sense.
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Post by hoyas315 on Jul 19, 2022 6:29:08 GMT -5
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Post by hoyas315 on Jul 19, 2022 6:32:24 GMT -5
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Post by EtomicB on Jul 19, 2022 6:52:42 GMT -5
This seems well deserved and makes sense. I don’t think so, much too premature in my view.. He was immediately given the lead recruiter tag, why not wait till after the season for this promotion
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Post by dchoya72 on Jul 19, 2022 7:50:02 GMT -5
He's being shown that he is valued!
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Jul 19, 2022 7:53:49 GMT -5
What if another program comes calling for Nickelberry, do we revert back to 0-20? Anyway, going to enjoy the ride.
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Post by prhoya on Jul 19, 2022 8:07:34 GMT -5
Where’s the Defensive Coordinator?
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Post by TC on Jul 19, 2022 8:08:12 GMT -5
Aside from a well deserved recognition of the incredible job it appears Nick has done recruiting in the brief time since his hire--does the elevation to "associate head coach" have any practical significance? Just guessing 1) additional salary? I would bet it is about this and the second and third hand effects that Nickelberry having a larger salary may have going forward.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Jul 19, 2022 10:28:45 GMT -5
This seems well deserved and makes sense. I don’t think so, much too premature in my view.. He was immediately given the lead recruiter tag, why not wait till after the season for this promotion I can totally see that position, and probably agree to some extent. The reason I say it is probably well deserved is because after 5 years of Ewing and his staff being stagnant, getting Nickelberry has seemingly yielded positive results. If Ewing manages to hang on, it will likely be in large part due to Nickelberry's contributions, so what's the harm? If the team does well because of Nickelberry's recruiting, then great. If not, Ewing probably won't be around very long anyway. I do think it is optically weird to hire a guy as lead recruiter, and then promote him a few months later. But, I have no idea why that's the case. It could be that Ewing is afraid of losing Nickelberry (and his recruits) or something similar. But to your point, of course all this is premature, so I agree with you on that. I just think Ewing is doing it to recognize that Nickelberry has made some solid recruiting contributions to the program to date.
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Post by Just Cos on Jul 23, 2022 0:01:57 GMT -5
After Ewing’s contract extension (and the many other decisions made about the program) why would this seem weird? I get that a promotion months after being hired is abnormal but in context this seems par for Georgetown. Also we have no information coming from inside the program but that is par for the course too.
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Post by professorhoya on Jul 23, 2022 1:31:20 GMT -5
Congrats Coach Nickleback.
This is how you remind him.
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Post by dchoya72 on Jul 23, 2022 5:24:07 GMT -5
What if another program comes calling for Nickelberry, do we revert back to 0-20? Anyway, going to enjoy the ride. Let's enjoy the ride. Change was demanded. Change was implemented in a radical fashion. The team looks more talented and the players brought in are experienced,and Nickelberry's stature was elevated. He's been a head coach before. And came in generating recruiting results. This board should show some optimism instead of alway Editeding on Ewing and calling for his head.
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