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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2021 18:18:46 GMT -5
“They”? Who is “they” Or is somebody’s slip showing? "They" in this context is the Georgetown Men's basketball team. Just so I have this straight, the Pat-can-do-no-wrong brigade complains that 9797 wasn't posting after a win, trolls him into posting, he shows up and answers, and the goalposts move to "why are you posting" and "you're a racist because you used a pronoun". Great contributions to the board. Man what in the world are you talking about? The fact that he used the word "they" just proves he's not one of us. Because if he were, he would have said "we". You're the one taking it all the way over on the left.
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Feb 14, 2021 18:22:12 GMT -5
I just thought that on this board we used the other pronoun, “We”.
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Post by hoyazeke on Feb 14, 2021 19:14:24 GMT -5
"They" in this context is the Georgetown Men's basketball team. Just so I have this straight, the Pat-can-do-no-wrong brigade complains that 9797 wasn't posting after a win, trolls him into posting, he shows up and answers, and the goalposts move to "why are you posting" and "you're a racist because you used a pronoun". Great contributions to the board. Man what in the world are you talking about? The fact that he used the word "they" just proves he's not one of us. Because if he were, he would have said "we". You're the one taking it all the way over on the left. Yeah TC you should know that a true fan claims ownership of the teams he/she support. Even when the team is playing poorly. As a WFT fan if I still say "we" with them, I can say we with any team.
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Post by DanMcQ on Feb 14, 2021 19:17:48 GMT -5
Wow, some scintillating rabbit ears here. We vs they? That’s the discussion I come here for. Listen, 97 is an alum and a fan. He’s entitled to his opinion just like the rest of us. He’s also entitled to be wrong, just like the rest of us. How about we talk about the team and the game instead of turning every discussion into a game of gotcha ?
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Post by hoya9797 on Feb 14, 2021 19:23:04 GMT -5
"They" in this context is the Georgetown Men's basketball team. Just so I have this straight, the Pat-can-do-no-wrong brigade complains that 9797 wasn't posting after a win, trolls him into posting, he shows up and answers, and the goalposts move to "why are you posting" and "you're a racist because you used a pronoun". Great contributions to the board. Man what in the world are you talking about? The fact that he used the word "they" just proves he's not one of us. Because if he were, he would have said "we". You're the one taking it all the way over on the left. If “one of you” means an absurd apologist for a terrible coach, true, I’m not that. But to suggest I am not a Hoya is absurd.
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Feb 14, 2021 20:39:50 GMT -5
Wait a second, now! N0 one said the poster was a racist. At least I did not and never meant to even imply such. The use of the pronoun "they" did jump out at me when I read it. That's all.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2021 20:51:47 GMT -5
Man what in the world are you talking about? The fact that he used the word "they" just proves he's not one of us. Because if he were, he would have said "we". You're the one taking it all the way over on the left. If “one of you” means an absurd apologist for a terrible coach, true, I’m not that. But to suggest I am not a Hoya is absurd. Can you please tell me how I can block you because I don't need to hear your negativity with every post? It gets tiring after a while. We understand that you don't like the coach. How many times are you gonna say it? How many times do we have to hear it? Your best hope is that they get rid of coach or that he decides to move on. Until then, you just have to stomach it. Your bellyaching every post aint gonna do anything.
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Post by hsaxon on Feb 14, 2021 21:17:02 GMT -5
I hear all of your bellyaching and you got the stats to prove your arguments and all but there is one stat that you keep ignoring. That stat is 4-2 since Bile has been inserted into the starting lineup. Furthermore look at the "Bile effect" and that is the affect that he has on the rest of his teammates. Wthh Bile on the floor, He makes his teammates so much better, especially Pickett. You used to talk bad about Pickett and now you don't talk bad about Pickett anymore. You know why you don't? It is because now the opponent has to be concerned about Bile now that it takes the stress off of Pickett! Effectively Bile gives us a big 4. He's a threat both on d and offense. The team just started learning how to play together and now they are winning games and you guys want to complain and you cant even see that we are twending upwards now. It is amazing!! There is give and take for all players. Bile brings a level of maturity, skill and confidence that has helped the team...he might be called a "glue-guy." Every team needs one and we have had them in the past, thankfully. If our big guys could take a miraculous step forward things would come together quickly. "I used to wonder how, when everything seemed profound, I've been around just chasing it straight. .no chaser!!" Don't forget Blair had six assists today...(you didn't miss them)so he wasn't all bad by far..it's a game of give and take...and we won!! Blair had mostly good numbers, but his floor game was terrible - LOTS of turnovers, some unforced, a stupid technical foul for whining, a few airballs. Not a feather in his cap today.
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Post by hsaxon on Feb 14, 2021 21:19:09 GMT -5
I am as much a "play the freshman" advocate as anyone on this board, but if we lose a week from today to Seton Hall because Pickett and Blair were compromised by overuse today, then as a program we need to figure out far more than just how to put together a rotation. That being said, choosing to sit Blair after a play where he was clearly fouled and took exception to the non-call vs. any of the 9 TOs he committed... was questionable. Jahvon should quit whining and set a good example.
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Post by hoya9797 on Feb 14, 2021 21:35:47 GMT -5
If “one of you” means an absurd apologist for a terrible coach, true, I’m not that. But to suggest I am not a Hoya is absurd. We understand that you don't like the coach. How many times are you gonna say it? How many times do we have to hear it? Problably a lot more.
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Post by hsaxon on Feb 14, 2021 21:48:53 GMT -5
I am as much a "play the freshman" advocate as anyone on this board, but if we lose a week from today to Seton Hall because Pickett and Blair were compromised by overuse today, then as a program we need to figure out far more than just how to put together a rotation. That being said, choosing to sit Blair after a play where he was clearly fouled and took exception to the non-call vs. any of the 9 TOs he committed... was questionable. Jahvon should quit whining and set a good example. I agree with Patrick pulling Blair for whining and getting a technical and I was somewhat surprised that Patrick put him back in.
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Post by centercourt400s on Feb 14, 2021 22:27:59 GMT -5
If “one of you” means an absurd apologist for a terrible coach, true, I’m not that. But to suggest I am not a Hoya is absurd. Can you please tell me how I can block you because I don't need to hear your negativity with every post? It gets tiring after a while. We understand that you don't like the coach. How many times are you gonna say it? How many times do we have to hear it? Your best hope is that they get rid of coach or that he decides to move on. Until then, you just have to stomach it. Your bellyaching every post aint gonna do anything. Sign in, click on the poster's name, from their profile page click on the gear icon on the far right and choose block. Then enjoy. If he had anything worthwhile to say I wouldn't have blocked him but it is just the same thing over and over. No value, no meaningful contribution, just hate, hate, hate. He loves reactions, so just block him and don't react.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2021 23:11:17 GMT -5
Can you please tell me how I can block you because I don't need to hear your negativity with every post? It gets tiring after a while. We understand that you don't like the coach. How many times are you gonna say it? How many times do we have to hear it? Your best hope is that they get rid of coach or that he decides to move on. Until then, you just have to stomach it. Your bellyaching every post aint gonna do anything. Sign in, click on the poster's name, from their profile page click on the gear icon on the far right and choose block. Then enjoy. If he had anything worthwhile to say I wouldn't have blocked him but it is just the same thing over and over. No value, no meaningful contribution, just hate, hate, hate. He loves reactions, so just block him and don't react. Great! Thanks!!
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Post by bostonfan on Feb 15, 2021 9:02:39 GMT -5
The Butler game was an ugly game by both teams, but it was an important win for the Hoyas. The Georgetown offense did enough to maintain a fairly comfortable lead for most of the game and the defense made enough plays, and rebounded well, and that was enough to win. There is no doubt that the turnovers are unacceptable and if the Hoyas want to beat teams who are better than Butler they need to cut those turnovers in half. In a lot of ways the Hoyas were fortunate that Butler shot the ball so poorly and did not take advantage of all those turnovers.
The concerning part of the turnovers is that so many of them are unforced, and are just a case of being too casual with the ball. They have been playing long enough this season that they can't use the excuse of still getting to know all the new teammates. The Hoyas have enough guys that can make shots, if they make sure they get good shots on most of their possessions, they will be in every game. I think the staff gives the players a lot of freedom to make plays within their offensive schemes (similar in some ways to NBA schemes), but it might be time to add some extra structure to those schemes in an attempt to reduce the turnovers. The decision making with the ball needs to be much better.
I guess I understand the call from a lot of people to give the young guys/freshman more minutes, but I never really felt like the game was in hand until inside the last minute. I realize they were up 15-20 for much of the second half but the way the Hoyas were turning the ball over, it just felt like Butler was 2-3 made 3 pointers away from making it a close game. I am sure Coach Ewing would like to give those bench guys some more run, and rest the other guys who are getting huge minutes, but if he decides to go deep into his bench and Butler comes back and wins that game, then everyone is killing him for letting a game get away. Winning conference games is never easy and the #1 goal every game needs to be "find a way to win". I watched a lot of the Creighton/Nova game this weekend also. Creighton had a comfortable lead for much of the second half and neither Creighton or Nova went deep into their bench for extended minutes. There are not many coaches in the Big East, or other power conferences, that play much more than 8-9 guys on a regular basis. At this point the Hoyas are playing 8 guys most games.The margin for error between these teams is slim and coaches are not going to take chances of giving a game away.
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Post by TC on Feb 15, 2021 19:00:07 GMT -5
If “one of you” means an absurd apologist for a terrible coach, true, I’m not that. But to suggest I am not a Hoya is absurd. Can you please tell me how I can block you because I don't need to hear your negativity with every post? It gets tiring after a while. We understand that you don't like the coach. How many times are you gonna say it? How many times do we have to hear it? Your best hope is that they get rid of coach or that he decides to move on. Until then, you just have to stomach it. Your bellyaching every post aint gonna do anything. Then why are you continually asking where he is? You obviously want someone to dunk on after we win, but this team is so bad that you can only try to dunk on one of the other Georgetown fans that doesn't think Ewing is the answer because no other fanbase is going to listen to trash coming from a sub .500 team. hoyatalk2.proboards.com/post/910847/thread
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Feb 15, 2021 19:27:42 GMT -5
There is no metric you can use to say that Pat has done a good job as a coach. The numbers/data don’t lie. I went to school with Ewing the player, but I can be objectionable. Perhaps, one can argue that four years is not enough time to make an evaluation, but then what is?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2021 19:37:19 GMT -5
Can you please tell me how I can block you because I don't need to hear your negativity with every post? It gets tiring after a while. We understand that you don't like the coach. How many times are you gonna say it? How many times do we have to hear it? Your best hope is that they get rid of coach or that he decides to move on. Until then, you just have to stomach it. Your bellyaching every post aint gonna do anything. Then why are you continually asking where he is? You obviously want someone to dunk on after we win, but this team is so bad that you can only try to dunk on one of the other Georgetown fans that doesn't think Ewing is the answer because no other fanbase is going to listen to trash coming from a sub .500 team. hoyatalk2.proboards.com/post/910847/threadI had asked where he was only two times and both of those times we won. I know that he doesn't have any good things to say about the team when they win but he has a lot to say about the team when they lose. He further proved my point (that he doesn't like to root for the team) when he called the team "They". Are you one of those Hoya haters too? Do I need to block you too?
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Post by professorhoya on Feb 16, 2021 21:00:38 GMT -5
It was mentioned that Javhon Blair had his first block of his career but did anyone else notice that that was also the first time he’s dunked in a game?
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Post by guru on Feb 26, 2021 9:17:03 GMT -5
LOL what planet are you living on? We are the team that opponents chalk up as a guaranteed sweep every season. And check the resume of us against Butler for the past, oh, 20 years. Butler has been the far superior program for a very long time. Marquette and Providence have been better than us for better part of a decade. Since the formation of the new Big East, it’s us and DePaul at the bottom. Period. Any path back has to begin by realizing just where we are. I agree with everything Guru said but he/she left off the Johnnies. It's been us, DePaul and the Johnnies in the basement.... lol Who you calling a he/she??? 😝
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