seaweed
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Post by seaweed on Jun 10, 2015 19:22:51 GMT -5
So wait, since we got Foster WITHOUT AI on staff, does that mean we don't need him as a coach for recruiting? We just need him to show up once or twice a year........ For practice. Timing couldn't be more ironic vis a vis this nonsense
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Post by johnnysnowplow on Jun 10, 2015 19:32:14 GMT -5
We just need him to show up once or twice a year........ For practice. Timing couldn't be more ironic vis a vis this nonsense Maybe the Fosters read HT...
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IDenj
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Post by IDenj on Jun 10, 2015 20:36:24 GMT -5
This screams an episode of when keepin it real goes wrong.
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Post by professorhoya on Jun 10, 2015 22:22:32 GMT -5
Domestic violence is a serious issue but Iverson was never arrested for it. So sounds strange that Tawanna would not have filed any charges but said all this stuff just to damage his reputation. As far as gambling problems. Charles Barley and Michael Jordan have gambling problems but that hasn't really damaged them. Being bad with your finances doesn't make you a bad guy or menace to society. And most of us drink alcohol. If he's an alcoholic which I don't know if he is that's a disease and it doesn't seem as if it caused him to kill or hurt anyone. So the worst he's done is some weed (which is now legal in some states) and carried a gun (2nd amendment). I don't see how that puts him on the same plain as Kobe Bryant, Tiger Words, Oscar Pistoris, Aaron Hernandez, Lance Armstrong, Arod, Adrian Peterson or other guys who have done truly bad things. The overwhelming majority of victims of domestic violence don't report it to the police or press charges. Victims fear physical reprisal from their abusers, social ostracism, loss of financial support, or having to put their kids through the mess of the judicial process. So it's not strange she didn't report it, but actually quite common. I wasn't there for these incidents, so not taking sides, just pointing out that just because someone wasn't arrested for domestic violence doesn't automatically mean he's innocent. Serious gambling/financial problems would be a huge obstacle to being a college coach, in the same way it's an obstacle to obtaining a government security clearance. Gambling problems inevitably lead to contacts with nefarious individuals/organizations, as well as leave the individuals susceptible to extortion or requests for "favors" from their creditors. I don't know much about AI's gambling issues, but I would think any university would be hesitant to hire any coach with legitimate gambling/financial problems. There is a big difference between drinking alcohol (as most do) and being an alcoholic. Like you, I have no idea about AI's relation if any to this issue, but in general I don't think an alcoholic would make a good role model for 18 year old kids. The 2nd Amendment only protects you if your carrying of the gun doesn't violate a state or federal law. All this to say I've always had tremendous respect for AI's physical and mental toughness, both on and off the court. I respect how he has fought through difficult circumstances, and especially those he encountered when he was young. That being said, he has made a lot of mistakes in his life and even after he became a multi-millionaire. I don't really think he's best suited to dedicating himself to being an assistant coach. But I do agree with another poster who suggested he would be good to talk to the players from time to time and basketball and life issues. Yeah but that also describes Charles Barkley. Alleged domestic violence, gambling problem, alcoholic, legal difficutlies deadspin.com/5122464/is-charles-barkley-just-an-awful-human-beingAnd Barkley is TV pundit on a major network for a major corporation with big time sponsors. Strickland also had a bunch of DUIs and still was able to assist/coach at the fine institutions of Memphis, Kentucky and USF. This is all a hypothetical discussion though, and even if he were available I do think there would be alot of risk and I'd have to think long and hard about the risk vs the possible reward. But I don't think what he's been accused of is that bad compared to a bunch of athletes these days (Kobe, Pistorius, Adrian Peterson, Lance Armstrong, Aroid, ec).
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Jun 11, 2015 9:39:36 GMT -5
"He always loved Georgetown," Robert Foster said. "He's been a big Georgetown fan, a big Allen Iverson fan, so naturally he gravitated toward Georgetown early on. It was too good to be true for him. That's really why he's getting it done so early."
Case close! There you have it!
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prhoya
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Post by prhoya on Jun 11, 2015 11:28:56 GMT -5
"He always loved Georgetown," Robert Foster said. "He's been a big Georgetown fan, a big Allen Iverson fan, so naturally he gravitated toward Georgetown early on. It was too good to be true for him. That's really why he's getting it done so early." Case close! There you have it! Classic!
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Post by rockhoya on Jun 11, 2015 11:32:21 GMT -5
"He always loved Georgetown," Robert Foster said. "He's been a big Georgetown fan, a big Allen Iverson fan, so naturally he gravitated toward Georgetown early on. It was too good to be true for him. That's really why he's getting it done so early." Case close! There you have it! But....but.....I thought 2017 kids were too young to remember him
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Jun 11, 2015 11:50:14 GMT -5
How old is this kid? And he is familiar with AI.
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Post by FromTheBeginning on Jun 11, 2015 13:09:04 GMT -5
Would much rather see him get a team together for "The Basketball Tournament" deal that all those retired players are going to play in - the one with the million dollars in prize $$$.
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seaweed
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Post by seaweed on Jun 17, 2015 10:53:54 GMT -5
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Post by professorhoya on Jun 17, 2015 11:20:06 GMT -5
Or SMU. If Larry Brown wants to help him so much I could see SMU pick him up as a special assistant.
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Jun 17, 2015 12:19:15 GMT -5
Huge find Seaweed! Love it! Apparently Larry Brown is another risk taker and evaluator of talent like us. Not only that, he knows Iverson. Have a ton of respect for him going out on a limb like that. "I just wish there was some way that he could be involved," Brown said in a telephone interview Friday. "Just teach him about the organization and let him figure it out, figure out how he can help. He can certainly judge talent. He certainly has people's respect. Kids will listen to anything he said. He's certainly bright as hell. "Just teach him how to be involved with the NBA, whatever level you want, but I think ultimately I'd like to see him get into management. I think he'd be a huge asset."
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Post by justsaying on Jun 17, 2015 16:25:31 GMT -5
also getting Iverson involved in the BE, getting his name recognition tired to the conference again. I know at this we cannot hire him as coaching staff but the league could have him as guest game analyst at times (for short stints), get him maybe at half time to give his input of some situations ... etc ...etc. how would he have handled this. .. there are still quite a few young folks that know of him, point some of them to the conference, groom him for expanded use. let's use that. as coach Brown has said he is extremely bright.
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