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Post by FrazierFanatic on Apr 21, 2011 9:07:25 GMT -5
Gives us something to talk about, but it don't mean a thing when they roll out the balls in October. Would much rather our guys hit the courts and the weights all summer than perform in a Globetrotters-like "all-star" game.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Apr 21, 2011 11:01:57 GMT -5
What's the Page number we're trying to reach again?
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Apr 21, 2011 11:12:47 GMT -5
What's the Page number we're trying to reach again? Latavious hit 48 - we are getting there, c'mon guys push through the pain.
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Post by HometownHoya on Apr 21, 2011 11:45:11 GMT -5
What pain?!? Beautiful day! Yesterday was a great Earth Day. We have some great potential and Otto is right up there!!!
GO HOYAS!
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Post by idhoya on Apr 21, 2011 12:16:16 GMT -5
We all know that there are schools that pay recruiting sites to list them with certain kids. It works across the board, but seems more prevelant in certain conferences and teams. Sometimes it doesn't matter how good or bad the kid is.
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Post by blueandgray on Apr 21, 2011 12:21:42 GMT -5
What's the Page number we're trying to reach again? Lativious hit 48 - we are getting there, c'mon guys push through the pain. Speaking of Latavious...kid may have been worth a 48 page thread. Last I checked, we was leading the NBADL in fg% at 65% plus and was up there in rebounds per minute played. Wouldn't be surprised if he was brought up in a year or so.
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Post by RBHoya on Apr 21, 2011 12:30:00 GMT -5
How about some optimistic comparisons for Porter? First time I saw his video, I thought of Rudy Gay. HS team seemed to use him the way Calhoun used Gay at UConn, at the top of a press where he could wreak havoc with his length and athleticism and turn defense into a dunk the other way. Seems to have a pretty balanced offensive game like Gay too. Not saying he becomes Rudy Gay, but that's the best case we could hope for. Here are some other (optimistic) comparisons for our incoming guys to recent BE players: Mikael Hopkins---Dante Cunningham: About the same height, Hopkins maybe a little bit taller. Both athletic with the ability to block some shots, and Hopkins like Cunningham has shown that he's capable of scoring in the mid-range. Both from the DC area as well. Biggest question mark here is the fact that Cunningham's biggest strength was his hustle/scrappiness, whereas Hopkins motor has been questioned by many. If he finds the passion, don't see why he couldn't be a very similar player to Cunningham (currently having a nice NBA career) because the tools are there. Jabril Trawick---Brad Wannamaker: Somebody mentioned this the other day, but I had thought of it previously too. Both are sort of "gamers" where they don't do anything outstanding, but just find ways to make things happen, and both man up on defense. Tyler Adams---Rick Jackson: Both were ranked in the same neighborhood out of high school. Like Jackson, Adams is not exceptionally tall for the center position but both players are wide and strong. Jackson had pretty good hands and developed over his 4 years from a complimentary player into the best big guy in the BE. Remains tbd how polished Adams is around the basket (still like no video out there on the guy ), but if he can slowly improve his game over a 4 year career, he could end up a really solid BE player like Jackson was. Greg Whittington---Joe Alexander: On the surface the comparison is obvious, because both guys were late bloomers at schools in MD that were not traditional powers, and as a result were a bit under the radar. Alexander was a fringe role player in his first season at WVU (the Pittsnogle, Gansey et. al teams) before emerging as a solid player as a soph and then blowing up into a lottery pick by his junior year. I'd love to see Whittington take a similar trajectory--I don't expect a lot of him as a freshman but I'm optimistic that he pays dividends down the road. By his jr year Alexander was a guy who at 6'8 could stroke it pretty well from 3 point range, but he was also an explosive enough athlete to rise up and block a shot or throw a dunk down on somebody. I'm confident that Whittington can be as good (or better) a perimeter player, but does he have the explosiveness to go to the basket, and will he develop the strength to do anything other than float around the 3 point line? We shall see. Note that these are obviously optimistic, best case scenario comparisons, but I thought it might stimulate some discussion. Feel free to make your own or to criticize me for comparing our guys to guys from teams we hate
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Post by BubbleVisionBiff on Apr 21, 2011 12:38:26 GMT -5
How about some optimistic comparisons for Porter? First time I saw his video, I thought of Rudy Gay. HS team seemed to use him the way Calhoun used Gay at UConn, at the top of a press where he could wreak havoc with his length and athleticism and turn defense into a dunk the other way. Seems to have a pretty balanced offensive game like Gay too. Not saying he becomes Rudy Gay, but that's the best case we could hope for. Here are some other (optimistic) comparisons for our incoming guys to recent BE players: Mikael Hopkins---Dante Cunningham: About the same height, Hopkins maybe a little bit taller. Both athletic with the ability to block some shots, and Hopkins like Cunningham has shown that he's capable of scoring in the mid-range. Both from the DC area as well. Biggest question mark here is the fact that Cunningham's biggest strength was his hustle/scrappiness, whereas Hopkins motor has been questioned by many. If he finds the passion, don't see why he couldn't be a very similar player to Cunningham (currently having a nice NBA career) because the tools are there. Jabril Trawick---Brad Wannamaker: Somebody mentioned this the other day, but I had thought of it previously too. Both are sort of "gamers" where they don't do anything outstanding, but just find ways to make things happen, and both man up on defense. Tyler Adams---Rick Jackson: Both were ranked in the same neighborhood out of high school. Like Jackson, Adams is not exceptionally tall for the center position but both players are wide and strong. Jackson had pretty good hands and developed over his 4 years from a complimentary player into the best big guy in the BE. Remains tbd how polished Adams is around the basket (still like no video out there on the guy ), but if he can slowly improve his game over a 4 year career, he could end up a really solid BE player like Jackson was. Greg Whittington---Joe Alexander: On the surface the comparison is obvious, because both guys were late bloomers at schools in MD that were not traditional powers, and as a result were a bit under the radar. Alexander was a fringe role player in his first season at WVU (the Pittsnogle, Gansey et. al teams) before emerging as a solid player as a soph and then blowing up into a lottery pick by his junior year. I'd love to see Whittington take a similar trajectory--I don't expect a lot of him as a freshman but I'm optimistic that he pays dividends down the road. By his jr year Alexander was a guy who at 6'8 could stroke it pretty well from 3 point range, but he was also an explosive enough athlete to rise up and block a shot or throw a dunk down on somebody. I'm confident that Whittington can be as good (or better) a perimeter player, but does he have the explosiveness to go to the basket, and will he develop the strength to do anything other than float around the 3 point line? We shall see. Note that these are obviously optimistic, best case scenario comparisons, but I thought it might stimulate some discussion. Feel free to make your own or to criticize me for comparing our guys to guys from teams we hate I could live with all of those.
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Post by hoyarooter on Apr 21, 2011 12:47:39 GMT -5
Yeah, I'd say we could all live with all of those. In particular, if Hopkins turns out anything like Cunningham, I'll be ecstatic.
Anybody want to speculate on downside comparisons? ;D
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Post by BubbleVisionBiff on Apr 21, 2011 12:50:56 GMT -5
Yeah, I'd say we could all live with all of those. In particular, if Hopkins turns out anything like Cunningham, I'll be ecstatic. Anybody want to speculate on downside comparisons? ;D I think the invitation is implied, if we're going to catch Latavious. [sarcasm] Trawick-Tay Spann Adams-Pascal Fleury Whittington-Lee Scruggs Porter-Jin Soo Choi [/sarcasm]
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Post by blueandgray on Apr 21, 2011 14:21:07 GMT -5
Hopkins - Sims
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Post by superan on Apr 21, 2011 14:34:13 GMT -5
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Apr 21, 2011 14:42:24 GMT -5
Okay, I'm befuddled - any in-season post discussing any game or opponent other than the next one is immediately inundated with "jinx" and "bad karma" laments; how can this latest direction of this thread possibly lead to anything but disaster?!
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Post by blueandgray on Apr 21, 2011 16:02:01 GMT -5
Don't know if the upside comparisons are limited to BE players only...but I tend to think a player like whittington would aspire to be like and have more similarities with a guy like tayshon prince over joe alexander.
As far as trawick goes, I was the one who made the comparison with brad wannamaker...but I used that as a realistic expectation expectation down the road as opposed to establishing that as max upside potential.
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Post by geedell on Apr 25, 2011 18:46:55 GMT -5
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Post by gujake on Apr 25, 2011 20:30:04 GMT -5
Nice article, thanks for posting geedell.
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Post by adlai on May 19, 2011 12:32:05 GMT -5
Otto listed by Reggie Rankin on ESPN as one of the biggest surprises in this year's recruiting class: Reggie Rankin: Otto Porter, a skilled small forward with matching feel for the game from small Sikeston, Mo., is a three-time state champion who dominates game in and game out. Porter was virtually unknown until I saw him in early December 2010 at the Marshall County Hoop Fest, where the future Georgetown Hoya dropped 29 points,13 rebounds and eight steals while making it look not only easy, but routine. Porter entered our rankings soon after and rests at No. 41 overall in the final rankings. sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=6526364
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Post by gtown11 on May 20, 2011 7:50:15 GMT -5
WE HAVE A NICE CLASS COMING IN BUT ON THE REAL PORTER & TRAWICK CAN BRING THIS PROGRAM OVER THE TOP IF WE GET AGGRESSIVE ON DEF AND PUSH THE TEMPO ON OFFENSE BUT IF WE CONTINUE TO PLAY PASS PASS CUT WE WILL BE IN A TOUGH SPOT IN VS. ELITE TEAMS AND EVEN NOT SO ELITE VCU-DAVIDSON-OHIO HELLO PRESSURE D REBOUND & PUSH THE BALL UP COURT
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Post by stafford72 on May 20, 2011 8:05:19 GMT -5
is placing your message in all caps supposed to be some type of lame shout out?? i do agree that there is more than enough talent for a decent season and optimistically a very good season.
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Post by strummer8526 on May 20, 2011 8:14:35 GMT -5
is placing your message in all caps supposed to be some type of lame shout out?? i do agree that there is more than enough talent for a decent season and optimistically a very good season. LOUD NOISES!!
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