prhoya
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Post by prhoya on Jan 13, 2011 0:11:28 GMT -5
You mean to tell me that video was to AC/DC's Thunderstruck and not one dunk? When I started the video and listened to which song it was, I was expecting 7 to 8 monster dunks. He fits perfectly at GU.
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Post by prhoya on Feb 7, 2011 7:54:10 GMT -5
Per ESPN: ESPNU 100 forward Otto Porter exploded for 38 points on 17-of-20 shooting and added 16 rebounds in Scott County Central's 90-47 rout of New Madrid County on Friday night.
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Post by rustyshackleford on Feb 7, 2011 10:26:00 GMT -5
He had 34 the week before. Love to see him here.
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Post by gojeffgoroyunder7 on Feb 7, 2011 10:51:27 GMT -5
We need scoring next year. If Jason is off, we are in big trouble. Would be great to get someone like Otto.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Feb 7, 2011 11:17:50 GMT -5
Hollis will score next year. But we could certainly use a little Otto. And he would forever endear himself to theoya faithful if he pummeled that pathetic Otto the Orange mascot up at Syrapuke.
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Feb 7, 2011 11:45:11 GMT -5
I had originally been against offering to Porter with guys like Kyle and Ochefu from 2012 waiting in the wings. But if the staff thinks Otto can add scoring and rebounding punch next year from the SF/PF position, then I think we take him and adjust our 2012 plan accordingly.
One thing I would be a little concerned about if Porter comes along with Hopkins is the value of Bolden's scholarship. There seems to be a lot overlap there with Nate as well.
We definitely need a ball handling guard from the class of 2012 more than another SF/PF.
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Post by blueandgray on Feb 7, 2011 12:18:57 GMT -5
Promice minutes to Otto as a frosh........ figure the rest out later.
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Post by thejerseytornado on Feb 7, 2011 12:44:53 GMT -5
I had originally been against offering to Porter with guys like Kyle and Ochefu from 2012 waiting in the wings. One thing I would be a little concerned about if Porter comes along with Hopkins is the value of Bolden's scholarship. There seems to be a lot overlap there with Nate as well. We definitely need a ball handling guard from the class of 2012 more than another SF/PF. But can you imagine the height if Kyle Anderson is that ball handler? Vee, Starks, and Bowen would be the only under 6'5 players on the squad. In fact, the squad could--if Kyle's handles are strong enough that quickly (and I keep hearing they are)--potentially boast a lineup with only one guy shorter than 6'8 on the court. yikes. To me, bird in the hand is important. And perhaps, if Ochefu and Anderson both want to come, Bolden sees writing on the wall and decommits? Or maybe he beasts to prove his worth? In general that's the type of problem to want to have.
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Post by idhoya on Feb 7, 2011 13:16:44 GMT -5
Bowen measured out at 6'6 when he came.
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Post by blueandgray on Feb 7, 2011 13:25:58 GMT -5
I'm no longer feeling great about our chances with Anderson. He was giving Coach K a ton of praise.
Bottomline, we are going to lose 40 points a game with the loss of Wright, Freeman, and JV....need to replace some of that asap and Porter would help.
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Post by RDF on Feb 7, 2011 13:31:29 GMT -5
I'm no longer feeling great about our chances with Anderson. He was giving Coach K a ton of praise. Bottomline, we are going to lose 40 points a game with the loss of Wright, Freeman, and JV....need to replace some of that asap and Porter would help. Why get so upset if Duke offers? BTW--they just got a commitment from 6'8 SF Alex Murphy today--and are leading to get Rasheed Suliamon--rumors he could commit this week on his visit for UNC game. Only so many spots to go around. Kyle Anderson is NOT a point guard. He can play the point in a pinch and he's got point guard passing skills--but he's not a good enough shooter (yet)--nor is he able to defend the position throughout the game. He will be a "point forward". Duke doesn't utilize this type of offense and Kyle's favorite team growing up was/is UNC. Georgetown is going to be involved and Bob Hurley has repeatedly mentioned how "style of play/system' should impact where he goes-and that is great advice-it's about where you fit as a player--not if they are your favorite team growing up. Hoyas have a shot--but dont' think he's a PG. If you get Kyle--Myles Davis or that type of shooter are great compliment.
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Post by Dhall on Feb 7, 2011 13:38:05 GMT -5
Kids in the Class of 2012 are not likely to be major contributors until the 2013-2014 season. You don't win relying on freshmen. Having another potential scorer in Otto could add some needed depth for the next two seasons in the meantime.
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Post by RDF on Feb 7, 2011 13:41:57 GMT -5
Kids in the Class of 2012 are not likely to be major contributors until the 2013-2014 season. You don't win relying on freshmen. Having another potential scorer in Otto could add some needed depth for the next two seasons in the meantime. Great point--and if the coaches feel he's worth recruiting--there is a reason he's being recruited. Otto's dad wants him at a Major conference school--and while Missouri is still in excellent position, Georgetown's academics appeal to Porter family--and are one major advantage over Missouri--although they have most of the advantages--location, recruiting longer, and loss of Tony Mitchell---so time to offer is more immediate.
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Post by prhoya on Feb 7, 2011 14:01:09 GMT -5
I'm starting to side with getting Otto and figuring the rest later. Otto would have a lot of opportunities to score in bunches with our offense. With his size and our offense, he could have a field day against the Syracuse zone, for example.
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Feb 7, 2011 14:51:33 GMT -5
DHall/RDF - agree that freshman usually don't make huge impacts, but look at the Hoyas the past several seasons. Nate is starting and is giving us valuable minutes at PF. Hollis got decent minutes last year. Monroe came in and started day one his freshman season. Clark saw some decent minutes that same year. Freeman started several games as a freshman and Wright would have seen big minutes but for the foot injury. Summers got big minutes as a freshman. Sapp saw decent minutes as a freshman. Wallace and Green both started as frosh, and Hibbert gave solid minutes especially later in the season.
So, while you can't always rely on freshman to be major contributors from day 1, the recent Hoya teams have almost all benefitted from freshman stepping in and providing some punch, not just off the bench, but from the starting lineup as well.
Plus, teams like Ohio State, Kentuck, and Memphis all have won recently with heavy reliance on freshman. So I think the assertion that can't win relying on freshman may not apply as much today as it once did.
If JTIII wants to shift Hollis down to the 2/3 next season, there will be some valuable minutes available at the 3/4 for Porter if he comes here. If he's competent, then he'll have plenty of chances to contribute.
Markel Clark Hollis Nate Sims
Vee Trawick/Bowen Porter Hopkins Moses/Adams
On a side note, interesting to see Bob Gibbons rate Porter ahead of both Sam Thompson and LaQuinton Ross.
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Post by chep3 on Feb 7, 2011 14:53:15 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm with pr. I don't know why but something about the articles about him give me the sense that if this kid didn't play in the middle of nowhere, he'd be way higher than he already is. I feel like he would be a huge get.
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Post by Dhall on Feb 7, 2011 15:06:35 GMT -5
DHall/RDF - agree that freshman usually don't make huge impacts, but look at the Hoyas the past several seasons. Nate is starting and is giving us valuable minutes at PF. Hollis got decent minutes last year. Monroe came in and started day one his freshman season. Clark saw some decent minutes that same year. Freeman started several games as a freshman and Wright would have seen big minutes but for the foot injury. Summers got big minutes as a freshman. Sapp saw decent minutes as a freshman. Wallace and Green both started as frosh, and Hibbert gave solid minutes especially later in the season. So, while you can't always rely on freshman to be major contributors from day 1, the recent Hoya teams have almost all benefitted from freshman stepping in and providing some punch, not just off the bench, but from the starting lineup as well. Plus, teams like Ohio State, Kentuck, and Memphis all have won recently with heavy reliance on freshman. So I think the assertion that can't win relying on freshman may not apply as much today as it once did. If JTIII wants to shift Hollis down to the 2/3 next season, there will be some valuable minutes available at the 3/4 for Porter if he comes here. If he's competent, then he'll have plenty of chances to contribute. Markel Clark Hollis Nate Sims Vee Trawick/Bowen Porter Hopkins Moses/Adams On a side note, interesting to see Bob Gibbons rate Porter ahead of both Sam Thompson and LaQuinton Ross. There's a difference between playing a nice role and relying on freshmen. The Green, Hibbert, Wallace and Monroe freshmen teams were NIT teams. Yes, Nate is starting and playing well, but he hardly has an impact on the scoring and rebounding numbers and he starts alongside 3 seniors and a junior. Next year doesn't worry me as it's a decent balance of upper/lower classmen. But the following year we are looking at Markel, Hollis, Nate and a lot of guys who have yet to make any significant contributions or even play a minute of college hoops. That's reality in college hoops these days, but if so then I say the more the merrier and let the cream rise to the top once they get here. "Reserving" schollies for two years down the road doesn't seem to make much sense in the current situation for the Hoyas. At other times it might, but not now.
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Feb 7, 2011 15:47:02 GMT -5
I think the reserving schollie question is complicated if you think you have good chances at landing players the caliber of Kyle and Ochefu. These recruits are on the caliber of Freeman and Monroe, meaning they can come in and start from Day 1. Relying on them may result in a NIT season, but relying on them implies they are upgrades over current talent and the team would have been worse without them.
If you think your chances are low at landing Kyle and Ochefu, then you take the bird in hand if Porter wants to come and figure out the rest later.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Feb 7, 2011 16:06:32 GMT -5
I'm starting to side with getting Otto and figuring the rest later. Otto would have a lot of opportunities to score in bunches with our offense. With his size and our offense, he could have a field day against the Syracuse zone, for example. Absolutely. We would not have offered if we were not ready to take him.
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Post by prhoya on Feb 7, 2011 16:14:54 GMT -5
FF, that takes us back to previous discussions here about players with offers vs. which players can really accept if right now. Only JT3, staff and the kid know...
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