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Post by prhoya on Oct 8, 2008 10:16:00 GMT -5
GREAT! Congrats to JTIII and staff! Welcome aboard, Nate!
From his comments above, it's clear that the race card is used against us. It sounds as if Nate had it ingrained when he came to visit, but was intelligent enough to look beyond what he had been fed.
A smart, big, tough and aggressive ahtlete who's accepted his future role at GU will be an awesome player at GU.
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Post by prhoya on Oct 8, 2008 10:17:02 GMT -5
Would someone please PM me the Scout article linked above?
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Post by lichoya68 on Oct 8, 2008 10:23:13 GMT -5
YOU GOT IT PR HOYA... i remember when big john recruited a white player from southern va. ..jeff something ...cant remember his last name... but during recruiting and afterwards... he got lots of criticism and grief ...and it let to him having panic attacks .... true story ... go hoyas ...go jt3 ... GREAT PROGRAM ...GREAT PEOPLE ... welcome aboard nate..... youll LOVE IT ON THE HIILTOP... sounds like a great kid.. not just bball ..go hoyas one and all
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Post by DanMcQ on Oct 8, 2008 10:25:12 GMT -5
That'd be Jeff Bullis, lic.
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prhoya
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Post by prhoya on Oct 8, 2008 10:25:19 GMT -5
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Post by Elvado on Oct 8, 2008 10:39:50 GMT -5
Except that Bull was from BelAir MD. However, there was a ton of negative recruiting in connection with Jeff.
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Post by kchoya on Oct 8, 2008 10:42:35 GMT -5
Good to see race-baiting is not limited to politics. These articles make me ill. I don't care if he is white, green, purple or plaid. He wears Blue and Gray now. Maryland fans with their typical classy response: mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=174&f=2580&t=3157007
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Post by rosslynhoya on Oct 8, 2008 10:44:57 GMT -5
From his comments you can see the perception that has been fed into these kids' heads. Again, its because of II and III being black men that the perception exists. It has not as much to do with the majority of the players being black. If it did most big time programs would be scrutinized. How come they're not? Cause they have white head coaches. Within the BE, UCONN, Louisville, Villanova, etc. feature very few white players that contribute. When's the last time Nova had a credible white player on schollie? Aaron Bain? My point is and has always been that if GU never got any good white players and still won we'd all be happy. None of those programs deliberately cultivated a distinctive black identity over the course of two decades. What John Thompson accomplished is Georgetown's legacy, but it cuts both ways.
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Post by rosslynhoya on Oct 8, 2008 10:50:43 GMT -5
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Post by idhoya on Oct 8, 2008 10:51:10 GMT -5
People like that are why this country is in the state that its in.
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Post by blueandgray on Oct 8, 2008 10:55:48 GMT -5
From his comments you can see the perception that has been fed into these kids' heads. Again, its because of II and III being black men that the perception exists. It has not as much to do with the majority of the players being black. If it did most big time programs would be scrutinized. How come they're not? Cause they have white head coaches. Within the BE, UCONN, Louisville, Villanova, etc. feature very few white players that contribute. When's the last time Nova had a credible white player on schollie? Aaron Bain? My point is and has always been that if GU never got any good white players and still won we'd all be happy. Now with all that said: Good to have Nate on board. Seems to ad some JYD to the team, which is needed. Nardi and Pinone are two that come to mind. With regard to the black/white thing.... I too think the perception is exagerated because Big John and JT3 are black themselves. When Esh was coach...the "georgetown only recruits black players" thing subsided and yet he had no more white players than we have today.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2008 11:06:37 GMT -5
Good to see race-baiting is not limited to politics. These articles make me ill. I don't care if he is white, green, purple or plaid. He wears Blue and Gray now. Maryland fans with their typical classy response: mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=174&f=2580&t=3157007When I looked at this, I expected maybe one or two inane posters. I am really shocked!!! with the exception of a couple of classy posters, most of the comments were really depressing to read.
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Post by aggypryd on Oct 8, 2008 11:07:25 GMT -5
Can't believe A&T is friggin' 21!!!! 5 or 6 years ago, we were above Harvard on this list.
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Post by prhoya on Oct 8, 2008 11:09:05 GMT -5
No class!!!
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Post by aggypryd on Oct 8, 2008 11:09:35 GMT -5
When I looked at this, I expected maybe one or two inane posters. I am really shocked!!! with the exception of a couple of classy posters, most of the comments were really depressing to read. I agree... I wanted badly to respond, but I don't think there's anyone over there intelligent enough to get anything significant from my post. So I left it alone... Depressing indeed....
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Post by idhoya on Oct 8, 2008 11:10:45 GMT -5
i forgot about Nardi, but wow a John Pinone reference. Exactly blueandgray.
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Post by kchoya on Oct 8, 2008 11:12:14 GMT -5
To be fair to Nova, Mike Nardi was a pretty solid contributor for them in the recent past. Still, your point is taken -- none of those programs have had a surplus of Caucasian contributors. Michael Bradley.
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Post by RDF on Oct 8, 2008 11:14:16 GMT -5
IDHoya--great post.
Here's a few things I want to get off my chest about the race issue and why I commend Nate for being a strong enough guy to ignore the negative/scumball tactics:
1. How EXPLETIVE racist is it to bring up race in a player's recruitment? I mean I'd question the people recruiting me who are saying this about another coach/school. It's pathetic.
2. How ignorant are coaches who use this? Last time I checked--the Georgetown Coach came from Princeton where he coached plenty of White kids--and had good/great relationships with them.
3. The next level of hatred will be "Well they signed him as the token--watch to see if he plays--doubt he plays, etc......." and Lubick will be judged differently then any other player. He'll have his minutes scrutinized, and other aspects scrutinized that no other player will. It's unfair to Nate and III-but it'll happen.
4. Said it on the other site but will repeat it here--how long before some coaches start saying "JT III is a Grand Wizard of the KKK--he only recruits guys like Lubick, Ryan Kelly, etc....". It's that pathetic and to bring race up--you are a racist. Coaches love people who fit their program, no matter their color, economic background, part of the country they come from, etc...and it's negative/pathetic people who bring things up to kids like Nate Lubick that makes me disgusted. Knowing that someone would go out of their way to bring up racial bullcrap---just reiterates that maybe the Hoyas SHOULD be Paranoid. It's not paranoia if they are out to get you.
To those coaches/people who do this--karma is real and not the name of the strippers you like to party with out in Vegas during July, or the clubs you like to take your sidepiece to get away from the family and "hang" with the players. I'm not talking about Head Coaches only--this refers to the pimps/scum that assist the Head Coaches--specifically the hanging in clubs and with players as their "pals" which happens a lot more then anyone would like to think.
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Oct 8, 2008 11:23:56 GMT -5
JTIII=Clayton Bigsby...the Black, White Supremacist?
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Post by DanMcQ on Oct 8, 2008 11:25:08 GMT -5
Except that Bull was from BelAir MD. However, there was a ton of negative recruiting in connection with Jeff. You're right. We need a lic clarification on whether: "from Virginia" is literal or figurative and whether Jeff ______ actually came to GU in the end.
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