FewFAC
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Post by FewFAC on Sept 13, 2007 9:47:03 GMT -5
I wonder how things like the facilities are playing into the equation for players like Monroe. If we're not careful, we could be running the Princeton with actual Princeton players.
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Post by balla on Sept 13, 2007 9:50:57 GMT -5
Back to Monroe. I guess what bothers me somewhat about his quote is that he likes an "established" program. Someone has put the seed in his head that we are not an established program. Now now, don't argue with me about whether or not we are established. You would be preaching to the choir. I would agree with you..."Well where were Duke and Kansas during the final four..." " You can RE-ESTABLISH the program..." etc. But someone has certainly bad mouthed GU as a "one year deal" and Monroe may have paid attention. --vagrant Nobody is getting into Monroe's head. They can try all they want and talk about established program...Monroe is not the type of kid that buys into that crap. Monroe is handling the recruiting process the right way. If you notice whenever he does do an interview with a writer from a certain team, he is always complementary of that team and coach. Monroe alway tries to point out the strengths of the program. For example when he did an interview with a L'vill writer he said that Pitino is a great coach and he can get him to the league. When he spoke with a Kentucky paper, he said they have great new facilities and he would like to check them out. When he did an interview with a duke homer, he said that he liked watching duke growing up... People should stop trying to dissect every word this kid says in an interview, in an attempt to figure out what it means to their favorite team. Kansas is pulling out all of the tricks to get Monroe. They have had his HS coach working Bill Self's camps, and they are recruiting Monroe's teammate. It is the business of recruiting, so we will just see how it plays out. It should be noted that Hollis Thompson is doing a great job of handling the recruiting process much the same way as Monroe is. So when he says somthing nice about Arizona, duke, or UCLA, people should not read to much into it...
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Post by joey0403p on Sept 13, 2007 9:54:53 GMT -5
eh - I think he is choosing established programs because that is a smart move. I don't think Duke, G town etc would be in his top 4 or 5 or whatever if he didn't consider us that way.
It will be really bad if he comes to campus and laughs at our gym and what not, then decides not to come (at least in part because of that). JT III will go bersirk - but maybe that will get a deal done for the practice complex.
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Post by balla on Sept 13, 2007 10:01:58 GMT -5
The most over rated thing in recruiting is facilities. The SEC, Big 12 and Big 10 schools have to have great facilities, because there is nothing else there(haha). Most kids do not care about that stuff. They just want to ball. G'town is one of only 2 schools in the country that plays most of their home games in an NBA arena. Facilities are nice to talk about, but it has little to do with where a kid is going to spend the next 1-4 years of his life.
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Sept 13, 2007 10:11:24 GMT -5
I didn't even really think of the import of the "established" comment when I put it in my post. I think that it was more of him finding something nice to say about Kansas. I'm sure that he'll say obvious compliments about the school no matter who he's talking to - you know Pitino puts guys in the NBA, Kansas is an established name in college basketball, Gtown has proved it can go to the Final Four recently/JT3 is a nice guy, etc., ect.
I think at this point he knows what's up with the facilities because other coaches would have been telling him about them on the recruiting trail - yet he still had Gtown come in for one of his first in-home visits. I'm pretty sure that coaches recruiting against JTIII say two things: 1) do you really want to play in THAT offense? 2) have you SEEN where they practice? and Monroe decided to have JTIII fly down to Louisiana and meet with his family despite that.
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Post by nathanhm on Sept 13, 2007 10:29:21 GMT -5
I don't follow recruiting all that closely but is it possible based on Monroe & his families personality none of the schools are doing negative recruiting about each other but just instead selling there program and opportunity.
I know if I was a recruit and I liked schools x, y, and z. And school X kept telling me how bad stuff was at school Y i'd be turned off to school X.
I don't know about Monroe just speculating.
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Post by prhoya on Sept 13, 2007 10:54:53 GMT -5
My take is that we're one of his "established" programs.
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Post by AvantGuardHoya on Sept 13, 2007 11:00:17 GMT -5
AI and Alonzo Mourning ... We weren't in contention with Iverson until after his incident with the law / his mom came to JT and asked him to take him. We didn't really win a recruiting battle so much as get really lucky. Some say “luck” is the residue of design. No, Big John didn’t land AI in a recruiting battle, but what he’d done with the Georgetown program and his stature and outspokenness as a black man in America certainly were pivotal factors in AI’s mom “recruiting” Big John.
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Post by vagrant on Sept 13, 2007 11:31:46 GMT -5
I ran all your answers, and others, through my head before my post, yet I am still troubled by his comment. So be it. As the saying goes-- that's my problem. My feelings are certainly no better than yours. Thanks.
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Post by 02hoya on Sept 20, 2007 19:49:13 GMT -5
Haven't seen this posted in any of the other threads mentioning Monroe, so my apologies if this is a repeat... Here's a link to a new article about Greg Monroe on Yahoo from earlier this week. The author thinks he "took a wrong turn" in trying to become a small forward rather than perfect his power forward skills. I don't know that he had a "disappointing" summer given how he performed in the games he played in, but okay... This guy mentions LSU, Duke, Kansas, Baylor and Texas as the colleges, among others, that are on his trail. No mention of us. fe49.news.sp1.yahoo.com/s/sn/20070917/sp_sn/gregmonroetookawrongturnthissummer
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Post by HoyaSkin on Sept 20, 2007 22:02:21 GMT -5
I doubt it to be true, as I do believe Monroe will do as he has planned and take all of his officials before deciding, but: In other basketball recruiting news, the number one high school prospect in the nation, Greg Monroe from Helen Cox high school in New Orleans, has narrowed his choices down to LSU and Duke, according to a source at Helen Cox high school. www.dandydon.com/
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Post by balla on Sept 20, 2007 22:19:59 GMT -5
Should not believe any of that junk. Lets just see how this plays out. It is more entertaining that people think he is deciding between dook and lsu.
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Post by idhoya on Sept 22, 2007 0:54:26 GMT -5
It is down to Duke and LSU, if you listen to the dudes on Rivals. He is predisposed to liking one of the those two. Foolishness.
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Post by kchoya on Sept 26, 2007 16:48:16 GMT -5
Gary Parrish weighs in: www.sportsline.com/collegebasketball/story/10373696"Greg Monroe seems like a nice kid, and everybody I know who knows him, swears he is. That's great news. I like nice kids. But I have to tell you that the way the top-rated high school player in the nation is stringing along his recruitment baffles me to no end, nice kid or not."
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Post by balla on Sept 26, 2007 17:05:42 GMT -5
Since Monroe will be down to 3 or 4 schools on Friday, it is does not matter.
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Post by RDF on Sept 26, 2007 17:29:14 GMT -5
Gary Parrish weighs in: www.sportsline.com/collegebasketball/story/10373696"Greg Monroe seems like a nice kid, and everybody I know who knows him, swears he is. That's great news. I like nice kids. But I have to tell you that the way the top-rated high school player in the nation is stringing along his recruitment baffles me to no end, nice kid or not." The kid can do whatever he wants--it's the only time he is going to get to experience this-so why not take his time and make sure he selects the right place for him--in every aspect instead of just programs he "thinks" are right for him. I applaud how he's handled his recruitment and wish more kids would--nice to see a media guy bash a kid for being respectful, open minded, and not a media hound--where's Mike Gundy when you need him?
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Sept 26, 2007 17:56:31 GMT -5
is it a good sign that the picture from that article is of JTIII not monroe...
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Sept 26, 2007 18:31:25 GMT -5
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Post by MCIGuy on Sept 26, 2007 19:17:11 GMT -5
Gary Parrish weighs in: www.sportsline.com/collegebasketball/story/10373696"Greg Monroe seems like a nice kid, and everybody I know who knows him, swears he is. That's great news. I like nice kids. But I have to tell you that the way the top-rated high school player in the nation is stringing along his recruitment baffles me to no end, nice kid or not." He's probably mad he hasn't chosen Duke yet.
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Post by MCIGuy on Sept 26, 2007 19:20:14 GMT -5
Gary Parrish weighs in: www.sportsline.com/collegebasketball/story/10373696"Greg Monroe seems like a nice kid, and everybody I know who knows him, swears he is. That's great news. I like nice kids. But I have to tell you that the way the top-rated high school player in the nation is stringing along his recruitment baffles me to no end, nice kid or not." The kid can do whatever he wants--it's the only time he is going to get to experience this-so why not take his time and make sure he selects the right place for him--in every aspect instead of just programs he "thinks" are right for him. I applaud how he's handled his recruitment and wish more kids would--nice to see a media guy bash a kid for being respectful, open minded, and not a media hound--where's Mike Gundy when you need him? Did Parish say he himself has only been covering recruiting for a couple of years? If so he isn't used to the "old ways" (like, 10 years ago) in how recruiting was done.
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