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Post by hoyaboy1 on Nov 29, 2006 22:21:45 GMT -5
In Kenner, Roy was very aggressive calling for the ball, and after he got it. He would become visibly angry at teammates' mistakes, and look Editeded when he got taken out. Now he seems to have no intensity at all.
This team as a whole is very passive, and when forced to be aggressive (down late), has no idea how to react. I think a lot of that might have to do with coaching.
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Nov 28, 2006 0:32:42 GMT -5
I thought we were OK at breaking the press once the ball was in, but we struggled a lot to succesfully inbound it in the first place. We had problems with that in other games as well.
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Nov 28, 2006 1:14:29 GMT -5
Boxers regularly lose 15 pounds (sometimes more) in a day to make weight, and gain it back by fight time. I doubt Tyler lost much if any muscle.
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Nov 21, 2006 11:19:37 GMT -5
Thanks for the heads up. Seems like it is missing a lot of info and has some errors though. Somebody fell asleep.
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Nov 21, 2006 10:40:01 GMT -5
I agree that there should be more talk about the bad defense, but I suppose with our style it will always be like that. That doesn't mean we shouldn't be worried about an offense that has a very different skill set yet so far looks the same as last year's. I think balanced posts (not many of those, of course) are more helpful than dismissive posts made to counteract perceived slights.
If we have a higher ceiling than last year, I think it will need to come from defense and rebounding. I am confident the offense can be better than it has been so far, but I really doubt it can be as efficient as it was last year.
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Nov 21, 2006 10:23:27 GMT -5
At our pace and with our bad press, yea - but that's a fair enough point. My "4 minutes" was sort of a guess, since I don't believe there is play by play anywhere. Towards the end of the game ODU stopped semmed to stop playing tough D, and were allowing Sapp to penetrate and shoot largely uncontested, and for Egerson to camp next to the basket - those were the type of points I was trying to focus on. However, it is possible that those two just started showing more aggression, and ODU couldn't handle it. Didn't appear that way to me at the time, but it could be the case.
That wasn't really the part of the argument I wanted to focus on, however. I'm just not a fan of arguments like the one GIGA proposed. I see it all the time, and all that it proves is that it is possible for something to turn around, not that it is likely. And I don't think anybody here believed it was impossible.
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Nov 21, 2006 10:10:28 GMT -5
I'm not sure where you picked up the idea that GIGA was only talking about ODU, since he was pretty clearly comparing these threes game to our first three last year.
Sapp I believe was 3 for 3 with 7 points in the last 4 minutes of the game, and Egerson 2 for 2 with 5 points. Up until then Sapp had been silent for a long time and the offense in general looked terrible; I'm not going to get too excited by stats padded in garbage time.
And yes, our defense was bad too . . .but I'm not sure how that should make me not worry about the offense either, which is what GIGA seems to want. Personally, I have more confidence in the rebounding coming around than anything else. That's probably easier to fix, especially with our roster, than three point shooting. The defense I'm not sure about, but I'm hopeful that comes around too.
I'd disagree that the freshman are more behind on defense than offense. The big offenders are Summers and Ewing, but I see no evidence that they are any less clueless on one side than the other. I haven't noticed any particular defensive lapses by Rivers or Macklin - not that they have done anything on offense, either.
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Nov 21, 2006 1:02:31 GMT -5
Unless I missed all the posts that said we were done and had no hope, this is pointless.
Of course we can play better from here on out, but just because our 3 point shooting started slowly last year does not mean we will also end up shooting well this year.
I know you like to play the super-optimist schtick, but there are some legit concerns that people have with this team and there is nothing wrong with expressing them.
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Nov 20, 2006 15:43:16 GMT -5
How the heck are the freshman playing like it's an All-Star game? Rivers has done almost nothing but make 5 foot passes, and Macklin hasn't taken any bad shots or made any bad passes. Summers has been a little jumpy, sure, but to say the "newcomers play like they're in a burger game" is simply not based in reality.
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Nov 20, 2006 13:48:01 GMT -5
Running may not be the solution, but playing the exact same style when we replace Cook, Owens and Bowman with guys who have totally different skill sets doesn't make sense either.
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Nov 20, 2006 11:52:31 GMT -5
It does take 1.5 years to really handle III's system, and these guys are nowhere near yet. Anything we get from this group of four this year is total gravy, at this point. The experienced players, Juniors and Seniors, will need to carry this team. I'm not sure I believe this - and if it is true, it will hurt the team. Badly. We are now recruiting at a level where many players will leave after 2 or perhaps 3 years, and the idea that they will spend much of their time a step behind because of the offense is certainly not a positive. Also, considering how little movement is going on in our offense right now, I don't really see how it could be that complicated for the freshman to fit in.
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Nov 19, 2006 21:14:23 GMT -5
There is some truth here, but I also must point out that about half of Sapp and Egerson's total points came in the last 3 minutes when we were basically already out of it. Now, our guards didn't exactly play badly - they just aren't good enough to carry us.
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Nov 21, 2006 16:56:46 GMT -5
Great article in the Hoya. His idea of a creative chant is "T him up." Freaking genius over there.
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Nov 19, 2006 22:16:38 GMT -5
JTIII has been way too cautious with Green and Hibbert. We can't afford to have them sitting on the bench for 10+ minutes when they have 2 fouls. He did the same thing in the Vandy game, and it could have hurt us then too. Maybe, but in the second half we had a 44-37 lead. Then the roof caved in. I find it tough to blame the loss on the first half minutes Jeff missed with two fouls. Points in the first half count the same as points in the 2nd.
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Nov 19, 2006 20:53:05 GMT -5
JTIII has been way too cautious with Green and Hibbert. We can't afford to have them sitting on the bench for 10+ minutes when they have 2 fouls. He did the same thing in the Vandy game, and it could have hurt us then too.
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Nov 19, 2006 22:07:16 GMT -5
I don't really agree that Hibbert is a poor defender - yea, sure he'll struggle if he is guarding a guy who is really a SF, but he plays solid post D and does a good job blocking and changing shots.
On the other hand, Jeff wasn't a good defender when he got here and hasn't seemed to have improved too much on it.
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Nov 19, 2006 20:50:22 GMT -5
My thoughts (I was at the game):
1 - Concerns about our outside shooting were 100% well founded. Outside of Wallace, we can't shoot.
2 - Sapp, Egerson, and Wallace have shown some flashes, but we still show far too little penetration overall.
3 - We should be doing a much better job on the boards. Green and Ewing in particular were awful, and really have been all season.
4 - GIVE THE BALL TO ROY. I blame this partly on the guards and partly on JTIII. Roy was the only guy who was consistently effective on offense, and he barely got touches. Absurd.
5 - The bench stunk badly. 3 points total? Yeesh. They added nothing.
6 - Back to Ewing, as he had a terrible game. In addition to his terrible rebounding, he also took soem awful threes. He also has been charging wildly at jump shooters, and again fouled someone shooting a 3.
7 - JTIII has to take some blame for the substitution pattern. He is too willing to let Jeff or Roy sit for 10 minutes as soon as they enter minor foul trouble, and we can't afford that. He also inexplicably pulled Roy when ODU had just taken the lead and we were losing momentum. By the time he got back in we were down 11. No surprise. JTIII has to do a better job here - in close games we can't afford to experiment with lineups that can't score.
8 - We looked like we had no clue how to press. We were playing some weird 1-2-1-1 that was horribly ineffective. We also had no idea how to pick up the tempo on offense. Gotta work on picking up the tempo for the times we fall behind.
9 - The perimeter defense wasn't awful, but it was sloppy at times. We need to create a lot more turnovers.
10 - Lots of sloppy passing, particularly by Wallace.
I know a lot of people don't want to believe this, but Roy really is our best player. He is the one guy we have that can (or maybe wants to) get his shot off consistently, and he blocks or changes tons of shots on defense. He is also our best rebounder. We need to make a better effort of getting him the ball on offense, and JTIII has to give him more minutes. He never really looked fatigued today, yet he still sat for extended stretches.
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Nov 16, 2006 14:02:53 GMT -5
I think that Summers, Macklin, and Ewing will play pretty consistently. I'm not sure that Rivers will get minutes in big games with Crawford back - his total lack of an outside shot is a major handicap.
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Nov 15, 2006 14:48:15 GMT -5
I took homage with the fact ... Well, at least you showed that fact proper respect.
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Nov 12, 2006 17:34:24 GMT -5
I don't entirely blame Crawford for taking 8 threes - my concern is more along the lines that it seems like our offense in that game was designed to generate a lot of threes, which probably isn't the best idea for this team. If Crawford and Sapp do nothing but stand behind the three point line (no cuts, no penetration, no picks, no screens, no attempts to post up smaller guards, nobody in the high post to pass to), then we can't really complain when they take a bunch of threes.
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