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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 12, 2022 18:07:05 GMT -5
To be fair, it is a valid point (although more harshly worded than necessary) that many, probably most, maybe almost all top high schoolers want to play for a winning program, or at least one that is on the upswing. We are miles away from that, and Patrick has had extremely little success and has the program as low as it has ever been.
But there are decent players who relish the challenge of bringing a program back. Players who are underrated and have no other major offers, and who would rather play for a losing major conference team than a winning mid-major. And an occasional highly rated player who sees an opportunity to showcase their talents. Never say never.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 12, 2022 9:50:11 GMT -5
Cudos to the person who started this thread. You should be feeling really proud today. No of course not. I desperately hoped I was misreading things and just discouraged after a bad game. Unfortunately my sense of the many deficiencies of this particular collection of players was not wrong. |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 10, 2022 10:30:16 GMT -5
Agree with all posted above.
That said, as an upstate New Yorker, his dagger against Suckacuse will always give him a place in my heart💖
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 9, 2022 18:21:40 GMT -5
I feel bad for the players, esp. Dante and Rice, but let’s get this over with tonight and start from scratch. I think we can stomach one more day in order to see the players have a little happiness. |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 7, 2022 18:04:40 GMT -5
Honestly, anything other than an embarrassing loss on Wednesday would be a detriment to the ultimate goal here. That is an insult to the players who spend hundreds and hundreds of hours for the blue and gray. |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 6, 2022 12:58:39 GMT -5
Believe me I have no satisfaction about this thread. I just looked at our team that night and saw too many holes, too many deficiencies. Too many one-dimensional players. Limited athleticism, talent, basketball smarts. Poor fundamentals on both ends of the court. Poor offensive and defensive schemes. I just had the realization that we were a very poor basketball team.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 6, 2022 12:00:03 GMT -5
1.5% to get to Friday night seems high 13.9% to get to Thursday seems way too high. |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 5, 2022 20:18:24 GMT -5
This collection of staff and players could not make the top half of a mid-major conference. I am terrified by the definite posdibility that we could be even worse next season.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 4, 2022 14:18:41 GMT -5
Winless in conference in a double round robin schedule, but still playing last game of regular season against a team against whom you improbably (impossibly?) still have an unblemished record? Let’s keep it that way! P.S.  I went 0-2 in starting these game threads — and lost my job. Not not not an unreasonable decision I say. Indeed, I was gonna resign…  Re-hiring Dan was a backwards move. He hasn’t won a game in months. We need to clean house and start fresh no matter what the DanMcQ apologists think I feel strongly that Dan does an acceptable job as moderator. His weakness is in recruiting - this may be a major conference board, but virtually every member has mid-major posting talent at best. And when he does get a 5 star poster he can't retain him or her. He needs to bring on an experienced recruiting moderator. |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 1, 2022 12:45:25 GMT -5
Thinking the same thing. Connected anyway. 😉 PE, Jr., Ronny T., and Bill Howse. Dante’s relative is another of the posters. I won’t say which one, but pretty clear when you see the constant defense of him in various posts. Well, if constant defense of Dante stamps a poster as a relative of Dante, the constant attacks on Dante must mean - He stole your lunch money, your girlfriend AND your identity?😉 |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Feb 28, 2022 13:56:57 GMT -5
Don't know how I missed this thread before, but I add my thoughts and prayers to everyone else's.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Feb 25, 2022 14:55:41 GMT -5
Is it possible that winning the BET last year was actually a bad thing for the program in the long run? Creating the false impression that the program as a whole was finally on the upswing. Getting Ewing a one year extension; without the BET last year I would think he would have been on notice for this season. Although I would think it impossible to survive an o-fer, my Hoya-sense is tingling (not in a good way) with the possibility the powers that be decide that putting him on notice for NEXT season and letting the contract play out becomes the way to go. With the utmost respect- not even close. Take your success when you find it. There is no promise that the next coach- whether hired next month, or ten years from now- will win anything of meaning. The 2021 BET Championship was a really nice moment for Hoya fans, and all of us should be grateful to have experienced it. I generally agree with you, just a little depressed considering even the possibility of struggling through another season of unthinkable ineptitude. |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Feb 25, 2022 10:28:40 GMT -5
Is it possible that winning the BET last year was actually a bad thing for the program in the long run? Creating the false impression that the program as a whole was finally on the upswing. Getting Ewing a one year extension; without the BET last year I would think he would have been on notice for this season. Although I would think it impossible to survive an o-fer, my Hoya-sense is tingling (not in a good way) with the possibility the powers that be decide that putting him on notice for NEXT season and letting the contract play out becomes the way to go.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Feb 25, 2022 10:00:21 GMT -5
I do agree that the players are putting in the effort. The "selfish" is more about guys taking forced, even ridiculous shots with virtually no chance of actually going in. I realize that our lack of offensive weapons and set plays probably contributes to the number of desperate shots.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Feb 24, 2022 22:49:19 GMT -5
When your program has a losing atmosphere, you figure out a way to lose. I was waiting for us to screw it up. At this point it is pretty much inevitable.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Feb 17, 2022 12:12:08 GMT -5
My 43rd season as a Hoya fan.
First time I could not wait for a season to be over.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Feb 16, 2022 18:34:32 GMT -5
We all needed that LIC. Hope all is well with you. Hoya Saxa
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Feb 12, 2022 21:05:32 GMT -5
Agree 100%. But the players have plenty of responsibility for this mess. The players are doing what is coached, or allowed. When Pat was out they played some zone finally. But not much, if any, since coach returned. Which tells me he doesn't trust his assistant coaches. He continues to play defense HIS way when EVERYONE sees it's not working. I saw Puke (Duke) go to a zone during there game last week (you know what, I'm not going to do that)! Anyway it doesn't look like our coach is willing to try anything different. It's the same ole ish every week. He started the same guys, I don't know how many games in a row! When your coach has to continuously yell MOVE and REBOUND. I hear a coach that hasn't emphasized those things enough during practice. I never hear him yell SHARE, during our fast breaks. We take ill-advised shots every game. But there's no correction unless you're a bench guy. And that correction is to sit. This is a coach issue and if you don't believe that, blame the guy that constructed the roster! Not the players! I am not absolving Ewing or his staff, they have plenty of blame to share. But ridiculously bad passes, high school level failures to close out, wildly forced shots - some of the blame has to be on the players. |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Feb 12, 2022 19:17:26 GMT -5
At this point I feel the worst for the players. Yeah, this sucks as a fan and the coaches can’t be happy, but the players look joyless. This isn’t what college athletics should be about and not what they signed up for. I know that no one can guarantee success…but I think most assume the Hoyas would be competitive. We can’t even say that. Agree 100%. But the players have plenty of responsibility for this mess. |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Feb 11, 2022 19:54:01 GMT -5
The way I see it, we have been in all those games and some games we had the lead. It is when we substitute the high schoolers is when we get in trouble. I know it is hard but I wish Patrick would only sub in one high schooler at a time and keep four starters at all times all the way up to middle of the second half. After that if he feels like he needs to spell a couple of starters at a time and bring in a couple of high schoolers in their place, I'm good with that. We have got to stop losing our momentum, losing leads and falling so far behind which is what we do when we take out too many starters out at one time. It really hurts our chances of winning. taf I support your ardent enthusiasm for the Hoyas and the program. But can you possibly not realize how insulting it is to the freshmen who have been in college for 6 months, and who have worked their butts off for the UNIVERSITY, to continue to refer to them as "high schoolers"? I think you are better than that. |
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