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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jul 3, 2020 20:23:17 GMT -5
One would hope not. But I am sure it has happened. I’ll never understand why people have so much trouble with these basketball players getting compensated for their unique and valuable skill. I only have a problem when they break the rules. I have come around to the "likeness" concept. I don't want college sports to turn into a straightforward bidding war, but however it turns out - just follow the rules.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jul 3, 2020 10:23:19 GMT -5
Didn't mean to limit him to recruiter. I think Tyler will be a great coach in all aspects. I wasn't meaning to bust your chops. Just hoping the best for a really good man is all. No problem, I realized that my first post should have included recruiter AND coach.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jul 2, 2020 22:34:58 GMT -5
Didn't mean to limit him to recruiter. I think Tyler will be a great coach in all aspects.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jul 2, 2020 19:54:49 GMT -5
One would hope not. But I am sure it has happened.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jul 2, 2020 15:54:10 GMT -5
Question: prep schools like the one Beard will attend are costly. Who foots the bill? Why is that HoyaTalk's business? I think Ed was just wondering. A legitimate question. If we limit HoyaTalk to things that are our business we will eliminate 75% of the posts. Actually may not be a bad idea!
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jul 2, 2020 15:49:01 GMT -5
Agree with 2003. I think b&g's post was just a heads up to those who just assume we will get Ryan because of the connections, and to stave off any gloom and doom posts if Ryan decides there is a better fit. He is an intelligent young man (would expect nothing less) who will obtain and consider all relevant information before deciding what works best for him.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jul 2, 2020 14:34:00 GMT -5
Tyler Adams' enthusiasm on the bench during his years at Georgetown was infectious. He was dealt bad luck, and instead of getting down on himself, he made the most of it. For somebody who barely played, he was one of my favorite Hoyas of that era. 100%. A Hoya forever!
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jul 2, 2020 12:50:53 GMT -5
Well we did have a spot open up😉
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jul 1, 2020 17:10:49 GMT -5
Get some experience, then come back to the Blue and Gray! He would be a great recruiter for the Hoyas.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jun 30, 2020 19:52:39 GMT -5
While I wish him well, the chance that Big John is on this board to see these is the smallest number I can imagine . Probably true - but there may be people close to him who at least read the board. That said - get better soon, drive the nurses crazy and get back home Coach!
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jun 30, 2020 7:23:29 GMT -5
Can't wait to see Tyler develop his game next year.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jun 29, 2020 11:20:13 GMT -5
I have been on this board pretty much since the start. The moderators have never "selectively" edited or deleted posts or admonished posters. Ever. Did they ask you to say this? Real talk. Cause that’s asinine. You think I’m just reacting and remembering to things I’ve made up then? Just because that’s not YOUr experience doesn’t mean it’s not someone else’s. And frankly I don’t know how you can confidently say that you’ve digested every single post on this board and know the exact content and explanations for deleted posts....where’d you get your crystal ball? I never said or suggested that I have "digested" (what an odd term) every single post on this board. I do have a life of sorts. But I do read this board daily, and the vast majority of posts over the last 16 years. And it is not that hard to figure out the general content of the posts that have been deleted. What the moderators - who get nothing for all their time and effort except headaches - have been consistent about is enforcement of the rules. No obscenities. No name calling. No speculating about the future of players and coaches - firings, transfers, suspensions, etc. And eventually shutting down endless social media "slap fights" between posters that run on for pages and pages. Do they get every single problem post? Probably not, because yes they do have jobs and lives outside of this board. But they do NOT pick and choose which members they admonish, delete, suspend. I myself have been reminded of the board rules and warned a couple of times - in my younger and more excitable days of course. Rock you are a passionate Hoya supporter. Very passionate. That is fantastic. We certainly need that on the board, especially these days. There will always be those who are more critical and sometimes negative - again, especially these days. And sometimes their criticism extends to individual posts and posters. Defend yourself without attacking them. Use your passion for good!
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jun 28, 2020 16:18:38 GMT -5
I have been on this board pretty much since the start. The moderators have never "selectively" edited or deleted posts or admonished posters. Ever.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jun 27, 2020 20:09:31 GMT -5
Some fans do for sure. But when I see "fan base" I read that to mean the significant majority of the fans. While having a former player as an assistant could certainly be a benefit, especially if it is a DMV alumni, I think many fans realize we need a variety in suits on the bench.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jun 27, 2020 14:50:27 GMT -5
I see at the bottom of the scroll on that story that Latavious Williams also signed to play in Korea.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jun 27, 2020 12:40:14 GMT -5
I think DFW touched on it, the fanbase and the administration value identity over results or experience or talent. You end up with the fanbase clamoring for a basic patronage system rather than success. "The fanbase" is overstated. I think it is accurate to say that the majority of Hoya fans are going to require results soon in order to keep supporting Ewing. We can argue over whether he gets 2 years to produce those results in light of the massive defections instead of just one, but I don't believe that most fans "value identity over results or experience or talent". The administration on the other hand . . .
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jun 26, 2020 21:41:38 GMT -5
Do they actively root for us to lose? You are probably right. Would they live with it if it increases the chances that Patrick would either leave or be replaced? I think some would.
There are absolutely a few posters who are critical of virtually every thing that Ewing does, every recruit we get, every recruit we miss, and who plaster critical posts in every thread when we lose - yet who never show up to post after a win. To me that says a lot.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jun 26, 2020 18:15:21 GMT -5
While 90% of your post is spot on DFW, if you believe that even the more negative posters remain supportive if Patrick and the program, you are not reading all of the posts. There are absolutely some - granted, a relatively small minority - who pretty clearly are at least silently rooting for Patrick to fail so we can go in a different direction.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jun 26, 2020 16:42:40 GMT -5
Nope, I totally agree with your statement 100 percent. I also appreciate your comment and I wasn't trying to discount what you were saying. I know I wasn't clear in my intentions with my last response and for that I apologize. I just get so fed up with all the negative comments by the posters and I didn't want to go any further with more comments that may spark more negativity. But, I do agree with you and I appreciate that you and I have the same perceptions regarding the negative posters. Everyday I come on the boards to get some news about my beloved team and I am trying my best to comment less and less these days. No worries I wasn’t offended was just looking for a little clarification. I try not to assume where people are coming from. But for sure, it’s definitely dejecting and quite frankly it’s such a toxic environment you kinda have to remove yourself from time to time. Either way, the night is always darkest before the dawn. I wouldn’t count Ewing out just yet...I’m looking forward to the day certain posters (I can think of two and it goes against my nature to attach comments to the posters that make them, I try to be more blind than that) crawl back into the holes they came from. I get being disappointed and even as a result of having unreasonably high expectations, but the nature of sports it’s to win, lose, laugh, cry, fall, persevere, etc. My point is at the end of the ups and downs are a part of sports and it’s hard to truly accept that mentality if you don’t have an intimate experience with that concept, whether through experience or dedicated teaching. You can still have very high expectations and act like a decent, respectable adult when the program falls short. Tantrums aren’t necessary. As you noted a lot of negativity that comes in the wake of setbacks. It’s often emotional and unnecessary. It’s also irresponsible and has an effect on how other people view our program. If you’re not offering solutions, you’re offering problems. I know a lot of people seemingly disagree with that but it’s a pretty simple concept. One way to put it is, say, if an Kansas State fan is observing a conversation about Hoya basketball (or reading it on this board), if we all seem to be saying the sky is falling (we do it wayyyyyy too often) won’t that not color their perception of where we are? And then won’t they then spread that info? Most college basketball fans (80-90%?) don’t have intimate knowledge of random teams so what is said in passing among casual fans has a real impact. And it’s worth pointing out because most other fan bases aren’t as impatient and don’t constantly belittle their program (and/or discuss firing an objectively good coach every week for months on end) in the way this one is. That’s just my observation, but plenty of posters no longer post here because it is so negative all the time. That’s telling in and of itself, in part because those people who don’t post anymore likely represent the more knowledgeable basketball minds on this board. It can certainly get toxic, but unfortunately that comes with the territory these days in the social media world. I would say that with the exception of maybe the consistently top 10-15 teams, I think you will find negativity on almost all fan forums, and particularly ones who have known success but are in the midst of a dispiriting run. You just gotta try to keep your hope and your good thoughts, and let them have their complaints and negativity.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jun 25, 2020 19:44:29 GMT -5
Not sure why the board is so upset. Heck, it seems like every poster here wants to see a redshirt year for someone. That's enough of the speculation about an injured transcript or whatever - give the kid some respect in terms of privacy. Besides, the University still cannot make up its mind if students are coming back on campus and if so, how many and where and for how long. Sure, the basketball players would likely be on campus, but next year is pretty much guaranteed not to be a normal college year. Has HoyaTalk considered granting redshirt years? Might be a good idea to give some posters a year to develop their skills and their judgment.
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