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Post by FrazierFanatic on May 17, 2023 8:28:14 GMT -5
Being at or around 100 would be a huge win next year. You can be a good coach doing a great job and it can take three or four years to get things going. The NOW-NOW-NOW mentality is amazing to me. That’s how it works now with the modern transfer rule. But, you have made it clear you’re old school and you think it takes teams more than one recruiting cycle to improve a lot. I don’t know if you have noticed, but now there is no recruiting cycle. Um - maybe my math skills have deteriorated with age - but isn't #100 "improving a lot" from last season? If we were 120 or 130 last season that might be an argument, but we weren't. We were the Titanic after it hit the iceberg - being rescued by a decrepit whaling ship would be "improving a lot". |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on May 14, 2023 8:38:54 GMT -5
The choke continues. Remarkable. This aged well😉 |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on May 13, 2023 14:00:19 GMT -5
Game is on ESPNU for anyone who can get it. Hoya Saxa!!
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Post by FrazierFanatic on May 8, 2023 13:50:32 GMT -5
Alternative spin: the #21 transfer portal class is currently tops in the Big East and may get even better given that we still have a few more openings. Ewing's Transfer Portal class in his "dead man walking season" was 4th in the country, so if Nickelberry's bag dropping last year is what we are measuring against, then every team in America other than WVU, Kansas, Texas, and Arkansas is doing "objectively worse than Ewing heading into his dead man walking season." We all saw how much good that #4 transfer portal class did for last year's team--plenty of talent and a team that was way less than the sum of its parts. Here is the take any reasonable person who isn't trying to push an agenda would have: A top 25 transfer portal class is pretty good, especially coming off of back-to-back embarrassingly bad seasons. Is it jump-for-joy, buy tickets to Phoenix for March of 2024 level good? No. It is probably not good enough to take us from firmly entrenched in last place to being serious contenders in one year. But, it very well may be good enough to start us back in the right direction toward that goal. We shall see in time--given the absolute dumpster fire of a program he inherited, we are not going to be able to really assess Cooley and his staff for a few years. If next year is a move in the right direction and puts us in a better place for the following year, that's a win. When did Creighton drop out of the Big East? Ewing and his staff were awful coaches, I don't think anybody is arguing that. Of course we should expect that Cooley will put a better on-court product out than Ewing based on what we've seen from both of them. That is an extremely low bar. Cooley has told people that he expects to be good next year. He's told people that he expects to have $3M in his NIL budget to use. Yet, here we are with a weak class of 2023 high school graduates and the 21st ranked class of transfers...how can that be considered good with all the playing time and NIL money Cooley has to spend? "He's told people..." The game of telephone continues. Absent a printed source, avoid assumptions.--AdminAt least we all heard, that somebody heard, which is incontestable proof. |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on May 6, 2023 19:55:42 GMT -5
Back quarter of the top 100 usually doesn’t equate to a “top big man”, but thank you for confirming. 4 star bigman does. Ryan Mutumbo was a 4 star big man recruit😉 |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on May 6, 2023 12:29:36 GMT -5
Get it done men!
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Post by FrazierFanatic on May 6, 2023 12:28:37 GMT -5
I hope we go after him. I could really love to see a 3man Big rotation of him, Fielder and Sorber. So no minutes for Ryan? |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on May 5, 2023 12:04:26 GMT -5
Can't wait to see you in blue and gray!
Now get to work, there is so much to be done.,
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Post by FrazierFanatic on May 3, 2023 14:40:06 GMT -5
And you know it has not been because? Blueandgray confirmed that Cooley has known for a while that we are out of the Dickinson auction. I have seen some serviceable centers commit recently, but no must-have guys. This is a professional sport now, every big program will need to be able to evaluate how much $$$ a transfer or recruit is worth, and whether there are reasons to pay above-market price for any particular guy. Our program is so far down that it will take more than a quick fix and infusion of cash, so there is no reason this year to pay a premium for any of these guys. Not yet. Going to be hard to get students on board and to get fans excited about the program again if you don't win pretty quickly, particularly at the prices we're willing to pay for the coach and his NIL program. Certainly a fair point. I would expect to see measurable improvement this year, and at least late season conversation about the tournament next year. The hype will only last so long. As for NIL, although we have seen numbers put out there, do we know how they compare to NIL pots that other schools have available? I have not seen that comparison i.e. for the Big East schools. |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on May 3, 2023 12:23:21 GMT -5
and then we will see what plan B is for the roster and how they they will handle the center position"Plan B" should've been put into effect a long time ago And you know it has not been because? Blueandgray confirmed that Cooley has known for a while that we are out of the Dickinson auction. I have seen some serviceable centers commit recently, but no must-have guys. This is a professional sport now, every big program will need to be able to evaluate how much $$$ a transfer or recruit is worth, and whether there are reasons to pay above-market price for any particular guy. Our program is so far down that it will take more than a quick fix and infusion of cash, so there is no reason this year to pay a premium for any of these guys. Not yet. |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on May 3, 2023 11:08:06 GMT -5
Shouldn't he be attending classes? Economics;Finance;Marketing; US Geography |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on May 2, 2023 13:19:44 GMT -5
Did I miss something - when did Syracuse join the list? A late $$$$$ infusion?
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Post by FrazierFanatic on May 1, 2023 17:48:59 GMT -5
Well this is actually the only thread dedicated to Hunter Dickinson so . . .
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Post by FrazierFanatic on May 1, 2023 10:01:33 GMT -5
Because boya likes to agitate with posts about local guys we did not get or are not in their final 3/5/7 etc.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Apr 27, 2023 17:14:58 GMT -5
"was talked about days ago"
HoyaTalk off-season sniping time. Would be interesting to see each poster's worst/ most embarrassing autocorrect mistake.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Apr 24, 2023 12:31:55 GMT -5
I can't say I really understand this part of the HH article. Why would Georgetown not be "looking to target bigger names in the portal" regardless of what HD decides? Combining it with this bit from the article: "That hurts their chances with Dickinson, but Georgetown has communicated to Dickinson the players it would target to add around him, if he were to become a Hoya."If I'm Dickinson and that's part of the pitch, I'd be thinking "OK great--go get those other good players and then I'll consider committing." If the idea is that landing HD improves a team's prospects and maybe helps recruit other players, then any of the schools--Villanova, Maryland, anybody--can make that exact same argument, and they're doing so with an already superior roster in place to build on. The idea that if I commit other good players will follow wouldn't really impress me as a transfer/recruit. I'm not sure if that's actually happening or maybe I'm misunderstanding what Aiden is saying... but if I'm Dickinson I want a coaching staff to go out and build a good team first and then I'll be the guy who pushes it over the top, I don't want to sign up to be the pied piper and cross my fingers that you can deliver on some of the players you're talking about targeting. That's obviously very hard to do in college basketball--it's the age old conundrum of "it's very hard to win without great players and it's very hard to get great players if you haven't been winning." But that cycle has to break somewhere for a team to rise. Maybe Dickinson isn't it, maybe the new staff needs to show some things to be positive about on the court without the 5 star/blue chip/multimillion dollar NIL type of guy in the fold before those guys are interested in Georgetown again. That's OK by me. Given how bad we've been it's going to take more than a year to get back to where we belong. But I hope we are pursuing every possible portal option for getting better right now, and not sitting tight hoping that we win the Dickinson lotto and suddenly all the top portal guys are interested in us. Seems like a longshot. Alot of that Articles just comes from ideas and thoughts we have posted on here but I think if HD comes let’s say then it’s worth it for the NIK guys to spend an additional million or two to bring in new guys cause we can win now. (National championship). So 2-4 million NIL cap. If we don’t get Dickinson we spend Dickinsons money to acquire players to my make tourney. 1 million NIL cap. Exactly. The difference between going all in because you have aces in the hole vs. just calling because you have Ace King and need to at least see the flop |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Apr 22, 2023 18:21:05 GMT -5
I said he's been playing the NIL game from the start. He's getting one school's best offer, then going to the others and seeing if they can beat it. If they do, he goes back to the others and sees if they can beat it. The Hoyas made a lowball offer and were eliminated from consideration. The number I heard is 800K. When he ultimately settles on the best number--oh, and the school too--we can look forward to the NIL marketing opportunities that will undoubtedly justify the number. It's nothing but semi-pro basketball now. You just play for a college name instead of a city name. |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Apr 22, 2023 11:31:00 GMT -5
Where does this board get its endless supply of crazy pills? I'm gonna need some. You should have gotten your first bottle free with initial membership. After that it is $9.99 for a one year supply. |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Apr 21, 2023 18:32:34 GMT -5
Building a system and a culture. If former players don't fit, you don't keep them just to have bodies. Sure, but the question is whether they are just bodies. I understand that Bass, Anglin, Riley, and even Wahab are "Ewing players" (leaving out Primo, Murray, and Eziwiro in the "gone anyway" category), but don't think it's unfair to compare these guys with whomever ultimately lands here. The question is whether they fit what Cooley is doing. If not, they are just bodies. Cooley knows the answer to that. We don't. |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Apr 21, 2023 18:12:29 GMT -5
If we’re walking around with a bag that gets us in the conversation for the #1 player in the portal, we should definitely have enough to snag some top 5-15 types. I have to remain optimistic, but the clock is ticking. Honestly, this is exacerbated by the fact that Cooley apparently did not want a couple of scholarship players who are moving on and may have had a role. I trust him, but this is an area that may be open to question should rolling the dice not work. Building a system and a culture. If former players don't fit, you don't keep them just to have bodies. |
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