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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on May 14, 2020 8:52:20 GMT -5
Don't you think on some level Wahab is thinking this is his break out year and then he goes pro (not saying that has any chance of happening)? Ewing better be prepared for it to happen. The following year you will be minus Blair, the Arkansas kid, Pickett and the Chudier kid. If Wahab leaves and another transfers (just based on how things always go), that means you gotta bring in another monster class.
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on May 14, 2020 8:42:54 GMT -5
Second rebuild? Get a grip. Over the last year, we have lost ALL of our best players, almost none of whom where lost to graduation. If this isn’t a full rebuild, what the hell is? This is 100% accurate. We are in full rebuild mode. The one caveat is a lot of schools have to rebuild year to year since you have so many transfers, early entries, etc. The best schools are doing this every year. Your best guys this year are rarely your best guys next year because they move on. That is the issue with this rebuild. We haven't shown an ability to rebuild and develop long term.
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on May 13, 2020 13:20:03 GMT -5
Out of 12 frosh recruits in the first 3 years, that means we've had: 6 transfers 1 outplay ranking at BE star level (McClung) 1 outplay ranking at BE starter level (Blair) 1 even to ranking at BE starter level (Pickett) 1 even to ranking with potential to outplay ranking at BE starter/star level (Wahab) 2 have not seen enough, but still potential to outplay ranking to contributors (Ighoefe, Wilson) Out of 6 transfers, prior to transfer: 2 outplayed ranking to BE star level (Akinjo, LeBlanc) 2 appeared poised to outplay ranking to strong BE bench/upperclassmen starter (Walker, Gardner) 2 disappointments (Sodom, Carter) -- even with that, both seemed to have enough potential to contribute if they'd stayed around. What makes McClung a star and Blair a level below? We saw when given the time Blair could put up the numbers Mac has. Pickett has not played to BE starter level yet and surely hasn't played to his ranking. If he played BE starter level and to his ranking he likely wouldn't be here next year. I think for the most part everyone has played to their ranking so far. Our players get the benefit of getting playing time they wouldn't get at other BE schools so it makes it look like they are greatly over performing their ranking. The truth is they are getting too much playing time for their productivity as our record shows. I would say Josh was well on his way to outplaying his final ranking but his final ranking was off due to his injury. Akinjo definitely outplayed first year but then this year happened. The truth is top 100 guys should turn into really good college basketball players. Of course all don't but more do than don't. Both players will likely end up being really good although going to schools with similarly ranked players will give us good insight. Agree with playing time which is why we have had such success with all-freshman players. McClung isn't a star, not yet anyways. His D is lacking effort. You got to play both sides of the ball to be a star. He is a good starter. I think throwing Walker & Gardner in there as poised to outplay is generous as well. Blair played well but a years scouting report would box him in for sure. He will be best as a complimentary piece and spot up shooter. I'm guessing with no facts (seems on trend in today's environment) that our composite recruiting rankings slot us in roughly where we have finished in the standings. We are on a lot of top 30 players top 10 but that is fool's gold right now. I would rather be on a number of top 3's for kids from 50-100. Coach them up to overachieve and then we have something.
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on May 13, 2020 10:52:10 GMT -5
2017 Sodom - 266 Blair - 238 Walker - 223 Pickett - 76
2018 Akinjo - 90 Leblanc - 122 Carter - 235 McClung - 245
2019 Wahab - 136 Igohoefe - 403 Wilson - 290 Gardner - 289
2020 Harris - 394 Clark - 356 Beard - 149 Sibley - 97 Berger - UR
I fear we are all constantly lulled to sleep about the potential of players. Everyone is a diamond in the rough. McClung has way outplayed his ranking for us. I would argue Blair has too. Everybody else at this point, not so much. Wahab has potential and LeBlanc outplayed his ranking freshman year when he got to play. Here is hoping the 2020 class can get it done and that 2021 can hit on guys with a floor in the mid-90's of the recruiting rankings versus a ceiling.
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on May 13, 2020 10:42:13 GMT -5
I think our freshman class has a great chance to over perform their rankings and fit together well as they gain experience and develop their skills. Not that I would mind a 4 or 5 star recruit or two in next year's class! They better or we are sitting at the 9 to 11 slot for the next few years. They will have to dramatically outperform to get us to the top 3rd of the conference.
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on May 11, 2020 14:09:57 GMT -5
If any of this is close to being credible; Coach Ollie's infractions weren't even close and you see what happened to him. I think this is one place where it's apt to pull the Race Card. Kevin Ollie had the book thrown at him and his career destroyed for much less while white coaches like Coach K, Bill Self, Roy Williams, Sean Miller, Will Wade get off with a slap of the wrist. Considering how few African American coaches there are in the power 5 conferences/big six this separate but unequal treatment is extremely egregious by the NCAA. theundefeated.com/features/where-are-the-black-basketball-coaches-in-the-power-5-conferences/Professor, I wonder if it is race or stature that comes into play here? Pitino falls in line with those coaches and got dropped but the evidence was more damning and couldn't be refuted. This sounds like a Brian Bowen situation but with less evidence. I think Pitino got bounced because first it was the strippers, then the Bowen thing (could be reverse). Now the reason fewer minority coaches have had the chance to rise to the stature of the epic cheaters you mention above is certainly a race issue.
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on May 7, 2020 15:04:01 GMT -5
The only program currently in a place to land five star recruits in our conference is Villanova. None of us have the type of football money schools in the SEC, ACC and Big Ten can throw around. Nova didn't have any available spots this class, but I'm sure they'll get one in 2021. The Big East is increasingly becoming the place for four stars and high end three stars to make their mark, which is not necessarily a bad thing since those guys tend to stick around longer. You can still field very quality teams with that type of talent. Perhaps we'll be able to do better landing the more high end recruits once the sponsorship rule is passed, since most of us are basketball only schools and sponsorships would go almost exclusively to our basketball players rather than split with football players. I gotta think the coaches & Ackerman agree that this is the way to keep the conference near the top. Largely forgo the kids that will make a splash but be gone in a year. Look what it did for Washington. Develop 3 year kids and that is the path to NCAA titles I think. What Nova has going on is unusual in that they are pulling five star kids that want to stay two years. That isn't the pitch of UNC, Kansas, Duke, Kentucky, Lville... The G league thing throws another wrinkle into the plans but I have always thought classes stacked with kids from 50 to 150 is where it is at. We unfortunately haven't done that. Nova is getting kids in the 70/80 range to redshirt which is beyond crazy. Good on them.
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on May 7, 2020 12:44:36 GMT -5
Hiring post coaching legend is pretty tricky too. Look at Indiana, North Carolina (Guthridge panned out but then they moved to Dougherty and had a tough go), St. John's, Villanova, Notre Dame in football, Miami in football. Those shadows loom large and they probably loom largest at GU. I am not sure Gtown really knows how to run a coaching search. There are schools that continually get it right because they are accustomed to replacing coaches who get plucked by bigger fish every three to five years like Xavier, Butler. There are schools like Louisville & Kansas that can spend thru the nose and have rabid fan bases & recruiting support (!!!) to entice big coaches.
Pat is our coach. He is gonna get at least two more years to right the ship and then if there is any upward trajectory, I think he definitely sticks. He also isn't young so the school should have a serious plan in place regardless of on-court success because we need to have a plan A, B, C & D in our only revenue generating sport.
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on May 5, 2020 8:58:07 GMT -5
Is Carey the mystery bench player that grabbed our player this past year when he flew into the bench (and subsequently got removed from the game)? Yup. Allegedly tried to trip Allen when he fell into their bench. That leads me to believe he is a clown and I wouldn't want any part of him. I get that beggar's can't be choosers but forget this guy.
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on May 4, 2020 15:05:54 GMT -5
Is Carey the mystery bench player that grabbed our player this past year when he flew into the bench (and subsequently got removed from the game)?
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on May 4, 2020 9:15:54 GMT -5
I feel qualified to rank them since I haven't seen any of them play:
1) Sibley. Mainly because of his ranking and our desperate need for minutes at his position. 2) Beard. See above. We need him to be really good out of the gates since we don't have a PG coming back. 3) Harris. See Above. We need a PG. He is a PG. Ergo Harris needs to be a beast. 4) Clark. Also at a position of need. I am sensing a trend here.
It seems like all should be really good (hoya colored lenses) and nobody is likely a first year star. Our improvement is going to have to come from Mac & Wahab and I think Pickett was starting to put it together at seasons end so hopefully a bounce from him. It is going to be those three that make us sink or swim with the grad transfers filling in holes and this group of four above providing the light at the end of the tunnel hopefully. I think you could easily shuffle the deck on this entire group as there is not a clear cut top dog like there was in last years class of Wahab.
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on May 1, 2020 12:48:29 GMT -5
Is there are ready list of our top '21 targets? I think I have seen:
Mutombo Collins Williams Hawkins Cisse Cornish
We have been mentioned with others but those are the names that keep popping up.
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Apr 30, 2020 14:33:12 GMT -5
This would be the type of player. Get me him, Hawkins, McDaniel. That will get the local interest back up along with an influx of talent. Keep up with national recruits when you can but the tide is turning on one & done & G league so you are going to start to see the Duke, Kentucky, UNC crowd start to move down market. We gotta lock in the local seen from Bmore to Richmond and just be a constant presence for these kids.
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Apr 30, 2020 14:29:29 GMT -5
I'm feeling like we get him and then he goes to the G league. It would fit with our also ran status.
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Apr 29, 2020 9:19:33 GMT -5
We need to make hay on this player's being able to make money from their image thing. Let's designate a marketing class that players will be grouped up with other fellow students and work on local, regional and national image marketing. With the Gtown network, we gotta do something that is truly cutting edge.
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Apr 27, 2020 15:25:15 GMT -5
Staff is scouting/recruiting tens of players at any given time, over a hundred targeted cases over the course of a year. You act like there isn’t enough energy to be spent on everyone... There's isn't enough energy for every recruit and who you spend the most time on matters a lot. We need to stop wasting that time on kids who will never come. Didn't we just latch onto Walton late anyways? I can't blame the staff for taking a swing late when all else seemed to not go our way. Right now, our biggest recruit is Mac. If he is back you greenlight him and let him take you where he can.
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Apr 27, 2020 14:54:55 GMT -5
Yes. Any time spent on Chet Holmgren or Moussa Cisse or Frankie Collins is an absolute waste of time. Staff is scouting/recruiting tens of players at any given time, over a hundred targeted cases over the course of a year. You act like there isn’t enough energy to be spent on everyone... True, but we should probably prioritize the guys in closer proximity (especially now). I would camp out at Dematha & Paul VII for Hawkins & McDaniel.
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Apr 27, 2020 14:40:44 GMT -5
Eligible immediately I presume? Guy will be on his fourth college if you count Juco. Good luck Chudier!
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Apr 20, 2020 13:59:06 GMT -5
I think it's Latavious Williams thread.
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Apr 17, 2020 15:52:30 GMT -5
I watched the WCAC championship and didn't really know any of the players other than Timberlake, Roach, Kiels & Dickinson (hate that kids game and think he will stink). Hawkins stood out to me and I really little fast guard from Paul, McDaniel?. I hope we press on those two as they would be key foundational & local pieces. Your thoughts are exactly why the staff's recruiting has been questioned by more and more people since the season ended. Local. Talented. As far as I can tell, not an under-the-radar late-bloomer type. No concern as far as 1 and done goes. Where have we been? What is our local recruiter doing? Unrelated but Jay WRight was at that game, Roy Williams the night before, I saw Tony Skinn and Terrell Allen too. Wright is clearly pressing for Kiels but McDaniel & Hawkins are who we should have been pressing for and I hope we do.
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