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Post by HoyaChris on Dec 31, 2011 10:30:46 GMT -5
Joey Brown - 84 Joey Hassett - 55
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Post by HoyaChris on Dec 29, 2011 11:32:18 GMT -5
Oh yea, Vitale was awful all game. WashingtonHoya had the best analogy: He's like the dog from the disney movie "Up" - distracted by the most random of things. I almost had it with him when he brought up Georgetown and Maryland out of the blue during some point in the first half. He needs to watch the game. My college roommate called at halftime and expressed the same issue. It's not like Vitale is too old, but he doesn't seem to prepare as much for some games as others (see Duke-UNC) and tends to use the stories as filler for not doing game prep. How many times did he bring up a John Calipari reference, or mentioned that the big game for Louisville is on CBS this weekend? Mike Patrick is sometimes guilty of this as well on college FB games. To be fair, Vitale said he was en route to the ND bowl game and since he's never worked with Jon Sciambi (who often does Big 12 games on ESPNU), this might have been a late reassignment and as such he didn't have as much time for game prep. To paraphrase Mae West, "Fairness has nothing to do with it"
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Post by HoyaChris on Dec 27, 2011 18:57:44 GMT -5
Pomeroy has us 14th, Sagarin has us 16th. Both are highly sophisticated computer models. RPI is the Commodore 64 of computer models. So what? The RPI is not a linear scale. As has been pointed out many times on this board, the 200 RPI team is not much more difficult to beat than the 300 RPI team, but nevertheless our SOS has been skewed due to an abundance of extreme cupcakes. If you want to rely on the RPI, instead of what you see on the court, that is your choice. But if you have actually watched a team that you think is better than us that is ranked lower, I'd be interested to hear who it is. Because frankly, we are pretty damn good. Hoyaholic - I get the sense that you are not as old as I am. When I compared RPI to a Commodore 64, I was implying that it was an unsophisticated archaic mess.
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Post by HoyaChris on Dec 27, 2011 14:35:24 GMT -5
Why are we overrated? Who beneath us, other than maybe Kansas, deserves to be ranked higher based on their body of work so far? This team has earned its ranking. Our RPI is 43 and Strength of Schedule is 139. We are just getting credit for not losing as opposed to actually beating people. Pomeroy has us 14th, Sagarin has us 16th. Both are highly sophisticated computer models. RPI is the Commodore 64 of computer models.
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Post by HoyaChris on Dec 22, 2011 19:58:52 GMT -5
Next Cahill will hear Greg Monroe yelling at his TV and hit our bench with a T.
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Post by HoyaChris on Dec 22, 2011 19:58:11 GMT -5
The refs can go to the monitor to find Greg with a flagrant 1 with his .....bicep, but Pastner hits our player while Pastner has two feet on the court and gets a ....... warning?
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Post by HoyaChris on Dec 18, 2011 2:07:19 GMT -5
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Post by HoyaChris on Dec 8, 2011 16:23:07 GMT -5
PE Jr. is in camp trying to make the Hornets.
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Post by HoyaChris on Dec 7, 2011 10:24:30 GMT -5
I loved Jon Wallace as a Hoya and he remains one of my all time favorites. There is no Hoya of the three point era who I would rather have take the open, spot up, 3 point shot with the game on the line.
That said, the deification of Jon Wallace, "point guard" by a fan base who loved him seems over the top. The two most significant coaching moves that JTIII made in the final four season both had to do with minimizing Jon's shortcomings. First, Jon was a below average ball handler for a point guard. How below average? Against Nova early in the Big East season,we couldn't get the ball up the floor against their press. From that point on, Jesse Sapp brought the ball up the floor against pressure. Secondly, Jon was not quick enough to defend anybody. As a consequence, early in his Hoya career he would play well off of the player he was guarding and allow a string of unimpeded jump shots. About the same time that he ceased to bring the ball up against pressure, Jon started guarding more closely on the perimeter because it didn't matter if he got beat off of the dribble. The best part of Jon Wallace's defense was Roy Hibbert.
I would suggest that there is absolutely no question that Markel Starks is already a far better ballhandler and a far better defender than Jon Wallace ever was a Hoya. He has a long way to go, however, to contribute as much as Jon did - flaws and all - to the Hoyas' overall success. But it could happen.
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Post by HoyaChris on Dec 4, 2011 6:28:00 GMT -5
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Post by HoyaChris on Nov 28, 2011 15:53:39 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but the choice of John Pinone as the most hated Hoya foe is somewhere between silly and laughable. John Pinone was a very good player, but he was not much of a problem for the Hoyas. During the four years that Pinone was at Nova he won one game against the Hoyas, a 68-67 win at Nova in his senior year. Otherwise, he was on the losing end of 6 games with an average score of 75-58 and with no game closer than 8 points.
The only list John Pinone should be on is least photogenic.
Seriously, I could name 50 guys who belong on this list before John Pinone.
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Post by HoyaChris on Nov 26, 2011 8:44:36 GMT -5
The kid is the best rebounder in the class and is named ................ Gathers? How apt.
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Post by HoyaChris on Nov 25, 2011 7:45:01 GMT -5
My thoughts for the tournament.
1.) JT III is doing a lot more coaching than in the past, particularly with the freshman, but also with Henry and Hollis. He doesn't spend much time talking to Otto because he is never off the floor.
2.) The Lahaina Civic Center is a great place to watch a game. With only 2400 seats, there is not a bad seat in the house.
3.) Impossible to overestimate how important Jabril was to the win. Our biggest defensive weakness for the tournament was an inability to stop opposing guards from getting into the middle of the paint. Jabril mostly shut this down. His defensive stance - really wide - and body definition remind me of Gene Smith and John Duren.
4.) The offense is being run at a higher speed than at any time in the past, and with a higher degree of precision, especially given how young we are. In the games against Kansas and Memphis we totalled 21 turnovers. Especially absent were the throw the ball out of bounds turnovers and the shot clock violations. We also had way fewer late in the shot clock forces.
Fewer turnovers means more shot attempts and allows us to win/be competitive in games in which we don't shoot the lights out. As a team, I don't think we shot particularly well in either game.
5.) Henry seems particularly confident in the offense and much more decisive than he has been in prior seasons.
6.) It is apparently a lot easier to throw entry passes into the post when you are tall. Hollis' passing is much improved, Whittington throws a nice entry pass and Otto's entry passing is - admittedly based on limited observations - as good as any Hoya since Freddie Brown. Plus we are reposting which we never did enough of with Greg Monroe.
7.) And now onto the Otto Porter mancrush portion of the commentary. Playing starter's minutes without starting, Otto leads the team in rebounding, is tied for the team lead in steals (with Jason), is second in blocks and third in assists. He is also shooting 86% from the line and 51% from the field. The field goal percentage will go up. Right now he is only shooting 4-15 from three, but if you watch him in warmups, he is money. Before the Kansas game I watched him hit 9 straight and 11-12 from various spots behind the arc. His knowledge of the offense seems encyclopedic. He doesn't turn the ball over. And for good measure he runs the break better than any Hoya since Reggie Williams.
He is also the best defender on the team right now, although if he is forced to play the four against Thomas Robinson sized players that will be a problem. He has outrageous hands and great anticipation.
Thinking about their first five games as Hoyas, the only two players who I can remember having better starts were Sleepy and Zo. That is nice company.
8.) When did Jason learn how to dribble? His shot selection has been great, and his drives to the basket more decisive. It is also good to see how aggressive Markel has been offensively.
9.) Hollis is playing a particularly smart game. He is clearly the focus of a lot of defensive planning by our opponents and is not forcing anything. If you had told me before the season that we would win a game against a quality opponent like Memphis without Hollis even attempting a three, I would have been stunned.
10.) Obviously, Nate is in a shooting slump. He remains a critical player for us because nobody else on the roster can handle a widebody like Thomas Robinson. He did a way better job on Robinson than Henry did.
11.) I am really happy with this team. This does not mean I think we are going to win a national championship or a Big East tournament, but we are really competitive and it is fun to watch.
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Post by HoyaChris on Nov 22, 2011 23:33:59 GMT -5
I'll try this again: When is the last time we played an OOC team twice in the regular season? according to the front page, 1968-69 season It wasn't in the regular season, but in 1979-80 we played Iona in the regular season and the first round of the NCAA, winning both times.
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Post by HoyaChris on Nov 9, 2011 9:19:50 GMT -5
anyhone get their Maui tix from Georgetown yet? The ticket office is surprisingly silent, haven't returned calls or emails. I believe that the plan is to distribute the tickets in Maui.
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Post by HoyaChris on Nov 5, 2011 12:48:10 GMT -5
I'm not sure about the undergrads, but since when does Huggins graduate his players? That was somewhat of an unfair knock on Huggins while at Cincinnati--he recruited almost exclusively from the JC ranks and from transfers, and these players did not count in the NCAA graduation statistics. WVU has improved their NCAA grad rates tremendously under Huggins, moving from a Calhoun-like 899 out of 1000 (~20%) in 2005 to 995 in 2010, second among all Big East schools. Quick trivia: Hugg was an academic all-American at WVU. Not hard to be an academic All-American at a school where the library features two sections, fishin and non-fishin.
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Post by HoyaChris on Nov 1, 2011 15:40:58 GMT -5
Anyone want to confirm the idea from the Nova article that WVU is legally considered the state of West Virginia and that this status prevents the BE from removing this suit to federal court? My friend who runs litigation for a monster private firm confirms that the fact that the University is part of the state government will make it extremely difficult to remove the case from West Virginia.
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Post by HoyaChris on Oct 31, 2011 10:54:02 GMT -5
I agree with your personnel (i.e. Zo replaces Big Sky on the team) but not your positioning. Zo was never comfortable at the 4 and he was much less effective defensively when paired with Dikembe because his effectiveness defensively was highlighted when he played opposing bigs straight up. Consequently, my lineup would have Zo at the 5 and Patrick at the 4 where he could take 10-15 foot jump shots all day and poach weak side blocks on defense. HoyaChris, interesting thought! But have you run it by Hubie Brown? As you may recall, Hubie tried to play Patrick at PF with the Knicks, and 7'1 Bill Cartwright at the 5. Uh oh, didn't work out too well! sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1065572/index.htmAnyway, all good fun to think about and argue about. Gives us good fodder while we wait for this season to start! It didn't work for the Knicks because zones were illegal in the NBA.
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Post by HoyaChris on Oct 31, 2011 9:57:20 GMT -5
Given the twin towers arrangement with Dikembe, I think we can honestly place Zo at the 4 and replace Shelton, who was terrific, but not nearly on the level of a Zo. The rest I agree with. Given his 4 year commitment to Georgetown and pure PG skills, I take Duren over Iverson every day of the week. Plus, the man had the strongest quads I've ever seen on a basketball court. I agree with your personnel (i.e. Zo replaces Big Sky on the team) but not your positioning. Zo was never comfortable at the 4 and he was much less effective defensively when paired with Dikembe because his effectiveness defensively was highlighted when he played opposing bigs straight up. Consequently, my lineup would have Zo at the 5 and Patrick at the 4 where he could take 10-15 foot jump shots all day and poach weak side blocks on defense.
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Post by HoyaChris on Oct 29, 2011 17:10:02 GMT -5
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