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Post by DallasHoya on May 28, 2024 12:16:20 GMT -5
Exactly, so for Gtown at least the value proposition resides with the players or possibly team performance but definitely not with the University as the OP suggested. By value proposition, I merely meant that the players essentially have no value outside of their affiliation with a university and as part of intercollegiate athletics. Without the schools, there is no game for them that has any value whatsoever or would attract fans. Since there really is no professional basketball in the US below the NBA (and its limited affiliates), they would have to latch on to an overseas team (good luck) or expect some broad national or regional "pro league" to emerge that features 18 - 22 year olds that, almost to a one, will never play in the NBA with only a minority having a shot to play pro overseas. Who would watch that league? Who watches the G League? Sure, some schools make money in football and basketball from athletics. But that is much more about the school franchise than any individual players though, arguably, fielding successful teams is important for longer term relevance (and TV dollars). Let the kids get bona fide NIL. No problem with that. But being prepared to step up and offer bag money at levels way beyond what most of these players will ever earn as true professional athletes is complete idiocy. And then taking the next step and having universities "employ and pay" players directly is the death knell of college athletics. At some point (soon) for many schools, the net benefits of earning some TV dollars from operating a paid franchise of mercenaries loosely associated with a university wil not be worth it. How can Georgetown justify a program that benefits 11 - 13 student (?) / athletes and a bevy of coaches that is entirely inconsistent with the intellectual, philosophical and academic underpinnings of the University? If they do, Georgetown is just selling out (further). This argument is entirely separate from why no one attends Georgetown basketball games, though it is not unrelated. The team has been bad for a long time and there is student apathy around the program - in part because the program exists largely outside of the student experience and is increasingly inconcsistent with University values (most players are not true students who take real classes on campus or interact socially with the student body and games are played off campus in an entirely separate world). Georgetown's success in caring out a nice as "DC's team" has been largely unsuccessful. There was a time when the social justice merits of operating a John Thompson Jr. basketball program mitigated the negative impacts of having a basketball team somewhat inconsistent with the academic standards of the broader university, but those players were bona fide student athletes who stayed four years, took real Georgetown courses (for the most part, there were some consortium courses at other campuses), were supported and encouraged to succeed academically and graduate, and participated in non-basketball student life at Georgetown. And, to be fair, we have had a number of very bright and academically talented/oriented players over the years who truly succeeeded on the court, in the classroom and beyond after graduation. But we have strayed very far from that model/ideal. Personally, I think it is time for Georgetown to take the lead and exit big time basketball in favor of moving back to a student athlete model largely consistent with its other athletic programs and University values. Georgetown won't do this, because the administration lacks the ability to lead, preferring to cower in political correctness and follow the prevailing winds of social throught and appropriate behavior. Ultimately, this will be forced upon Georgetown, but it will have missed an opportunity to get out in front of these changes and get recognized for doing the right thing....early. Since Georgetown appears to aspire to be "Ivy like" in most respects, this seems like it would be an easy decision. I agree 100% with the last paragraph. The logical conclusion to my post from 2021: hoyatalk2.proboards.com/post/942893
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Post by DallasHoya on May 26, 2024 14:43:27 GMT -5
The ability to transfer without sitting out a year + NIL already killed it. This won't kill it any deader. If we're lucky what emerges from this all is something better. I'm probably in thr minority but I'd take being in a secondary league with actual 4 year student athletes playing other 4 year student athletes. Otherwise why not just be a Wizards fan? Not the Wizards (GO MAVS), but I 100% agree with the idea.
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Post by DallasHoya on May 25, 2024 13:06:03 GMT -5
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Post by DallasHoya on May 16, 2024 21:07:32 GMT -5
Leaving aside the Republicans' reason for the request for the audio recording, how is a written transcript of an interview not subject to executive privilege, but the audio recording of it is? Details matter. Goober seeks an unredacted audio recording of the interview. The transcript provided has redactions over the matters deemed covered by executive privilege. OK. Then how is a redacted written transcript of an interview not subject to executive privilege, but the redacted audio recording of it is?
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Post by DallasHoya on May 16, 2024 11:13:18 GMT -5
Leaving aside the Republicans' reason for the request for the audio recording, how is a written transcript of an interview not subject to executive privilege, but the audio recording of it is?
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Post by DallasHoya on May 6, 2024 17:11:56 GMT -5
Noem burnishing her credentials to be Vice Grifter demonstrating her capacity to shamelessly lie, then double down when asked about the lies. Perfect for the MAGA GOP. Kristi Noem’s increasingly bizarre Kim Jong Un story To recap: Not only has Noem faced bipartisan backlash for her story about her young dog Cricket, but other anecdotes in the book have also been called into question in recent days. There’s the meeting with North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un that seems unlikely to have happened. And there is the meeting with French President Emmanuel Macron she says she canceled, and the threatening conversation with former United Nations ambassador Nikki Haley she says she recalled. (Representatives for Macron and Haley have rejected her accounts.) www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/05/06/kristi-noems-increasingly-bizarre-kim-jong-un-story/About the Jong Un meeting: “This anecdote shouldn’t have been in the book. And as soon as it was brought to my attention, I made sure that that was adjusted.” As soon as it was brought to her attention? She’s the narrator of the audiobook version! Morning Jolt
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Post by DallasHoya on May 2, 2024 9:05:54 GMT -5
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Post by DallasHoya on May 1, 2024 8:29:13 GMT -5
I bet he knows of another way to vacate a building.
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Post by DallasHoya on Apr 26, 2024 15:16:22 GMT -5
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Post by DallasHoya on Apr 11, 2024 23:14:39 GMT -5
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Post by DallasHoya on Mar 31, 2024 18:31:10 GMT -5
Duke losing just never ceases to entertain. So is the new rule that calls against Duke are reviewable, but calls in Duke’s favor are not?
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Post by DallasHoya on Mar 21, 2024 21:49:22 GMT -5
Proving that in America, anyone can graduate from law school, pass a bar exam and hang out a shingle. Pro-Trump lawyer Stefanie Lambert surrendered Thursday to Michigan authorities in connection with her 2020 election tampering indictment, after a wild week where she was labeled a fugitive and spent a night in jail after being arrested in Washington, DC. The special prosecutor who charged Lambert in Michigan, DJ Hilson, confirmed that she turned herself in Thursday morning and appeared in Oakland County Circuit Court. www.cnn.com/2024/03/21/politics/stefanie-lambert-pro-trump-lawyer-arrest/index.htmlAnd it's the law firm of The Demented One, Jenna, Sydney and Stef. And a new partner could be the lawyer who “loaned” Hunter $5 million, made payments to Hunter’s ex-wife and his stripper-baby-momma, and paid $875k for one of his paintings.
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Post by DallasHoya on Mar 21, 2024 13:59:32 GMT -5
Should we create a thread for those wishing to debate the plus / minus of the current St Johns coach? Because this thread is about the current state of the Georgetown basketball program. Pick a different venue to argue about somebody else's coach please. Dan: That can be hard because how many ways can you say debacle?
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Post by DallasHoya on Mar 19, 2024 14:12:13 GMT -5
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Post by DallasHoya on Mar 13, 2024 20:11:44 GMT -5
Bristol got the senior night goodbye. Would be surprised, but not shocked, if he returns. COVID free year made senior night a little odd. Pass on Bristol. Brings absolutely nothing on the offensive end. Averaged 20+ minutes per game, shot 36% and never scored in double figures the entire BE season.
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Post by DallasHoya on Mar 13, 2024 20:05:33 GMT -5
Hoyas still a one man scoring show Rest of the team is 3 of 17. Rest of team finished 10 of 31
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Post by DallasHoya on Mar 13, 2024 18:45:50 GMT -5
19 FG attempts by the Hoyas, 10 by Epps. Hoyas still a one man scoring show Rest of the team is 3 of 17.
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Post by DallasHoya on Mar 9, 2024 12:37:52 GMT -5
Not sure but it looks like Cooley is now dying in his hair to get rid of some of the grey. Other than that, not much has changed with this team since game 1 in November.
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Post by DallasHoya on Mar 6, 2024 21:42:56 GMT -5
I posted this in October 2021: "My opinion only: I don't see how the University's view of the role of athletics and the status of student-athletes can co-exist with where NIL is going and the concept of one and two year college players that don't even have the pretense of seeking a degree. Either the University will need to change its view - which is highly unlikely given its historical antipathy to materially changing anything - or in 3-5 years Georgetown basketball will not exist in any semblance of the way we now know it, and certainly nothing like it was in the past." I'll now add that, with the unionization of college teams, if this program isn't turned around in the next two years, I'd rather see it shut down than become DePaul indefinitely or a bunch of professionals who would otherwise have no reason to be at a school like Georgetown.
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Post by DallasHoya on Feb 26, 2024 14:22:53 GMT -5
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