hifigator
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Post by hifigator on Jan 27, 2007 14:36:29 GMT -5
I am at work and just getting a chance to sit down for a minute. From what everyone says, things are finally falling in place for you guys. One question though, with Cincy shooting that high a percentage from the arc, was it just one of those games where everything fell, or were they getting too many open looks?
Sometimes you can play great defense, but for whatever reason everyone seems to knock down the shot with a hand in their face and the shot clock ticking to zero. Other times, no matter what you do, it seems like someone is stepping into a shot in rythym beyond the arc.
In any case, I think that those who pointed out that anytime the opponent shoots that many threes and at that high a percentage as well as making over 80% from the line, that you have your work cut out for you. To not only win but win by 15 is to be saluted.
I haven't seen a box score, but if you only had 5 turnovers and yet put up 82 points, that is something special. You aren't going to lose many with those numbers.
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Post by ExcitableBoy on Jan 27, 2007 14:37:04 GMT -5
This was the closest blowout I've ever seen. We dominated most every facet of the game and somehow they managed to keep the score respectable. From the stands, it felt like they never missed from 3... did somebody enter the wrong code on NBA Jam to make them on fire for the entire game?? Couldn't have been that, because if they had access to NBA Jam codes then we clearly would have seen some full court, triple-flip dunks. And the ball/net never caught fire after three straight made shots. Bunk theory. They did forget to enter the code for "having anyone who can match up against the 7'2" experience." That was their main mistake. Honestly, when their Saed is matched up against our Roy (#11 started the game parked firmly at the end of the bench, right next to the strength coach/water boy and ended the game posting up Roy), things are going to get ugly. Luckly for us, Roy Hibbert never misses. Ever.
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GIGAFAN99
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Jan 27, 2007 14:38:25 GMT -5
Last two games we have been shakey with the 3 FG defense - I don't know if these teams have gotten lucky or we have to step up this facet of the game. Cincy had Sykes on fire from the 3, but he is 6'9", so he would be hard for the guards to defend. Fortunately, he was gone about midway through the 2nd half, after his coach left him in with four fouls. We adjusted versus Depaul and they ended up just 6-19 (32%) from three including 2-11 in the second half. So as for today, I say "fluke" especially since Cincy would have a hard time recreating 14-20 from three without us on the floor given their shooters.
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Post by hoyarooter on Jan 27, 2007 14:51:40 GMT -5
According to the Pre-game Report, Cincy came into the game shooting under 30% from 3, and ranked 15th in the conference. I'll be interested in reading how our defense was from people at the game, but it certainly sounds as though the entire Cincy team entered the realm of unconsciousness today, and we still won handily.
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Post by guhoyasfan36 on Jan 27, 2007 14:53:44 GMT -5
ROY ROY ROY....life's good when you're 7'2". Big man with a big game, albeit against us mere mortals of normal height, but still gotta love it. It seemed like Cincy never missed from 3 land and we still kept a good lead most of the game. I like the push up the floor to green after the make...was that a fast break?
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hoyainspirit
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Post by hoyainspirit on Jan 27, 2007 15:05:39 GMT -5
Our free throw defense wasn't too good today. They were 7 - 8.
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TBird41
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Post by TBird41 on Jan 27, 2007 15:13:44 GMT -5
Probably our best game of the year. Let's keep it rolling. Offensively maybe, but not even close defensively. The Bearcats made a ton of threes because they got to shoot a lot of open threes. The perimeter defense was awful today. Other thoughts: --ROY! ROY ROY ROY!! 26 pts, 11 boards 2 blocks and 11-13 from the floor. And he fouled out their best player. He was also attacking the boards a lot--not just getting boards b/c they were in his area. --Everyone needs to get off the Summers bandwagon. Too many people got on it after Rutgers/Seton Hall and it's clearly effected his game. --I think, even if Austin and Wright somehow fulfill the sky high expectations for them (and I'm expecting a lot from them too), it won't matter, because The Alabama Rainmaker is not going anywhere.
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hoyadrummer
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Post by hoyadrummer on Jan 27, 2007 15:19:30 GMT -5
I disagree . . . there were some defensive lapses today, but I thought overall we played very good D. We caused at least two shot clock violations, caused a lot of turnovers, especially in the first half. The shots were just falling for Cinci today. At one point Roy was guarding a guy who was about 6'1 on the perimeter -- had a hand rights in his face, or really above his head the guy was so short. The guy tried to shoot over Roy, had to alter his shot when Roy went to block it, and it still went in. It was just that kinda day for Cinci. 24 of their 47 attempts were from 3, and they just kept falling until the very end.
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Post by Coast2CoastHoya on Jan 27, 2007 15:21:49 GMT -5
Nice, nice win for us today. I was a bit worried when we went from 17 to end the first half 40-35, but MAN did we play well in the second. Cincy absolutely could not miss from 3 (don't let the box score tell you the story, they missed their last 4 or 5 when the game was already decided), but we played really good D otherwise. Roy had an abolute monster of a game -- 26 points for the big man.
Quick thoughts:
Roy -- gotta be BE Player of the Week after today. 'Nuff said. Jeff -- how about that MASSIVE dunk? Awesome!! Jessie -- showing off his ability to penetrate. Jon -- clutch 3's as always. DaJuan -- couldn't hit a shot to save his life, but nice hustle and a great board near the end. PE Jr -- 3-3 from the field, 2-2 from 3. And best of all: his signature "throw it off the other guy when falling out of bounds" move. He's now done that in 4 games. Vern -- solid contribution. Baby Doc -- still very very timid shooting ... but a good performance from his otherwise. Though, as some of us were discussion, we do kinda grade him on a curve these days. III's Coaching -- stellar adjustments and clock management. Great coaching today.
Non-game thoughts: I love how 1/2 of the students and young alums roll in late for noon tip offs. Shows that we're all on the same page. Who was the dude PE Sr was talking to? We were thinking he was a former Hoya but couldn't tell. Verizon center has the worst freakin' staff in the nation. Except the beer ladies, they're cool. What's the deal with the scoreboard? First no player stats, then no picture? I guess I'd rather have the stats, and it was kinda cool to see what Athletics did with the oppotunity to be a little more creative.
Great game Hoyas!!! What a fun day -- it's gorgeous in DC too!!
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Jan 27, 2007 15:23:03 GMT -5
i agree with Drummer. The defense wasn't as good as it's been in the past but it was much more cinci doing somethign right than us doing something wrong.
Let's Hear It For A New Career High For Big Roy!!
Jeff's Dunk was Viscious!
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Post by vcjack on Jan 27, 2007 15:23:42 GMT -5
Perhaps its the comfort of being in the stands, but you can't leave an open man on the wing, especially if they are shooting the lights out. Although looking back on it, this happened more while Roy was on the bench and Vernon needed help to guard the post. Had we played this team back in November we would have lost but we are a much better team and a force in the BE
GO ROY
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Post by OldHoyafan on Jan 27, 2007 15:39:52 GMT -5
Wow! Cincy was shooting 66% from the 3pt line and 100% from the FT line until about a minute and a half was left in the game. And yet the Hoyas win by 15 points. I watched the Vandy- Ole Miss game and the commentators kept saying that Vandy would be ranked in the top 25 next week. the Hoyas beat them pretty easily. Will the Hoyas be back in top 25 also.
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Post by SirSaxa on Jan 27, 2007 15:56:47 GMT -5
That turnover number is unbelievable. and it was the difference in the game.. at least for someone who is only looking at the Stat sheet. 5 turnovers and 53% shooting! Tough to beat those numbers. and 77% from the line.
Amazing how the "Princeton Offense" was able to generate 82 points and even a few "statement dunks".
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Post by HealyHoya on Jan 27, 2007 16:28:47 GMT -5
Good game for the Hoyas. 15-5 (5-2) = outside shot at top-25.
Cincy was on fire from 3...finishing at 58% (14-24) with at least 3-4 of those misses coming in the last 2 minutes of the game. While our perimeter D could have been better (it was not, IMO, the best defensive game we've played this year; see Pitt at Pitt, Duke at Duke, ND at Verizon), Cincy kept themselves in the game by shooting incredibly well. Good job by them but, ultimately, too little and too short.
Hibbs had a great game. Sure, the scoring was there (26pts; 11-13 from the field?) but I was happier to see the aggressive rebounding (11rbs) on both ends (5 offensive), shot blocks(2), running the floor, solid screens. Good all-around game for him.
Nice to see Macklin contribute...same with Rivers.
Easy on Summers with the analysis...he's a freshman, he's brought more to the table (...offensively) than expected at this point in the season but he's still a freshman and will be inconsistent.
Wallace is steady. All that talk about him losing his starting spot next year was, is and will continue to be total nonsense. Total nonsense. Outside of Dominic James and maybe (...maybe) Scottie Reynolds, Wallace does a better job running offense than any PG in the BE.
Bring on the Johnnies. Bring on 16-5, 6-2.
Hoya Saxa
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jan 27, 2007 16:51:06 GMT -5
Great offense, awful defense. They coudn't do much inside, but every three they made was wide open. Yes, most teams still miss some of those (at one point they were 10-12), but I think the team went through constant stages of being so much better than Cincy that we built up a 10+ lead, then relxaed, they caught up, and then we built up the lead again.
5 TOs is a record -- and even more amazingly, we played at a faster pace until we bled the clock in the second half. If Rivers could hit an outside shot, we'd have hit in the mid-90s.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jan 27, 2007 16:52:17 GMT -5
Also, I'm starting a campaign to fire our official scorer. Once again, we had a LOT more than four blocks. Who's scoring these games? I'm betting Hibbert loses 100 blocks over his career to our home scorer.
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Post by PopeJohn2 on Jan 27, 2007 16:57:54 GMT -5
i cant say that i thought our defense was awful. we were hustling and getting hands in faces. but others seem to think it was awful with a lot of open 3s. since i dont have game recorded cant really refute. all i know is that our perimeter d was no worse than theirs and they were shooting 75% from 3 until the very end. yes, there were some wide open 3s but when you launch it from 27 feet out you are gonna get some.
my verdict: we played good perimter defense, they just were on fire.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jan 27, 2007 17:00:11 GMT -5
We ran around a lot, trapped and waved our arms. We were active. And in the end, that left a lot of guys wide open for three. After they make 10-12, you should probably play a more conservative D. It isn't like they were drilling threes with hands in their faces.
However, I will give that up for how active we were on the boards. We had more O boards than D boards -- and it wasn't just Roy. Wallace was a beast on the O boards.
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Post by MCIGuy on Jan 27, 2007 17:05:21 GMT -5
Which one will happen first? Rivers hits another outside jumper or Macklin makes another free throw?
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Jan 27, 2007 17:05:49 GMT -5
I disagree a lot of those threes were with hands in their face. THeir were too many that were open as a result of what you're saying SF but there were a signifigant protion that still went in with a hand in their face.
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