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Post by HoyaSox04 on Oct 30, 2006 15:57:51 GMT -5
This blog (biglead.com) is pretty widely-read, and they know their college basketball. They have us at #4 pre-season... and its a pretty decent write-up: thebiglead.com/wp-print.php?p=1271
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Post by hoyasexy on Oct 30, 2006 17:22:12 GMT -5
Can't really say that they break any new ground, but it is what it is. Never heard anyone refer to Roy as "lanky" before, and most of their analysis seemed to be derived from a quick glance at the roster (including the reference to the 6'10" PE2), but I wouldn't expect much more from a blogger with no apparent connection with the Hilltop.
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Post by kchoya on Oct 30, 2006 18:21:57 GMT -5
I was at Duke's Blue and White scrimmage because my sister is a freshman there and it was parents weekend. They are saying Paulus is going to be back a lot quicker than most people thought. Some people were saying he would be back in a couple of weeks. He was even walking around without a boot or crutches. Zoubeck and Thomas are beasts from what I saw so their front court will be able to match up fairly well with ours (I still think we have the advantage). However their guard play was absolutly atrocious. It got to the point where McRoberts was one of the best options bringing the ball up. I think we have the better team at this point. Yeah, but neither one is part man, part ravenous beast.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Oct 30, 2006 18:51:34 GMT -5
WOW this ranking is a lot different then most. I like that. Pitt at 16! UNC at 5! Bold predictions. also gotta love : "BLIND GUESS AT MARCH PENETRATION"
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Post by mrsixer123 on Oct 31, 2006 11:40:00 GMT -5
i think they have have us ranked properly considering the questions at point guard. we simply do not have a PG that you can give the ball to with a minute left in the game and not have any worries. at some point in the season, we will lose a close game b/c we do not have a guy with superior ball handling skills
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Post by doublehoya on Oct 31, 2006 12:04:37 GMT -5
Strange that they have Jeremiah Rivers as the newcomer to watch.
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Post by AvantGuardHoya on Oct 31, 2006 12:19:08 GMT -5
i think they have have us ranked properly considering the questions at point guard. we simply do not have a PG that you can give the ball to with a minute left in the game and not have any worries. at some point in the season, we will lose a close game b/c we do not have a guy with superior ball handling skills Say w-h-a-t? Oh, I guess that's why we lost to Florida last year. My bad. Hope JW, Sapp & co. read this.... ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2006 12:31:03 GMT -5
, we will lose a close game b/c we do not have a guy with superior ball handling skills[/quote]
I must respectfully disagree. We have one of the most reliable, ball handling point guards, in the BE, if not the country. How often did he turn it over last year???
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Post by SFHoya99 on Oct 31, 2006 12:31:23 GMT -5
When I was going through the back pages of this board looking for the Countdown to 1000 thread, around page 50-55, there's a thread simply entitled Jessie Sapp!!!!!!!. RDF personally threatens the moderator, stating that he doesn't care if it is clutter, Jessie deserves his own thread.
This is right after the UNI game, where Jessie was 2-5 (6 pts), 2 rebs, 2 assists and played twenty minutes of inspired ball.
Down the stretch there, we were actually playing a seven man rotation -- Jessie backing up Ashanti and Darrel backing up Roy, Brandon and Jeff. Jessie was playing great in limited time (about 20 mpg), grabbing rebounds (5 against OSU, I think), steals (remember his two key strips versus Duke?) and not making mistakes.
Of course, he wasn't scoring much. But I think he was playing to his role. He was always the fifth scoring option on the floor and he was the seventh on the team. We'll see.
Mr. Sixer still has a valid point -- there is no breakdown, dribble drive guy on this team. Then again, there wasn't on last year's team. If last year is our only indication, there really isn't a creator at guard.
Yet, we'll be alright. One, I have yet to see an off-season under Thompson where the majority of players didn't improve. Granted, it is two off-seasons, but I think there's a lot of reason to believe players like Sapp, Egerson and Crawford will be better.
Two, we have forwards and a center who can create. Thompson has shown a great job of adjusting to his personnel. We have no Ashanti to take the last second shot; that doesn't mean Ashanti's replacement must take that shot. The ball likely ends up in Jeff's hand or Roy's if there is enough time. Or maybe even DaJuan, who seems like he has some good penetration skills.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2006 12:33:14 GMT -5
i think they have have us ranked properly considering the questions at point guard. we simply do not have a PG that you can give the ball to with a minute left in the game and not have any worries. at some point in the season, we will lose a close game b/c we do not have a guy with superior ball handling skills Ahhhh, the Wallace Haters return in all their pathetic glory. Name me one game G'Town lost last year because they "simply do not have a PG that you can give the ball to with a minute left in the game and not have any worries," and explain how that loss was a result of Wallace's "shortcomings" as a point guard. Just one.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2006 13:28:13 GMT -5
I agree with you Buffalohoya.
Wallace hardly every turned the ball over. He had the best 3 point percentage on the team. I just don't know what some people want in a point guard. HOYA fans won't realize how valuable he is until he is gone.
Jerry
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mrsixer123
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Post by mrsixer123 on Oct 31, 2006 13:56:48 GMT -5
"I must respectfully disagree. We have one of the most reliable, ball handling point guards, in the BE, if not the country. How often did he turn it over last year???"
please tell me his name b/c ashanti is no longer on the team. if you think we have have break-you-down PG on our roster you are in for a rude awakening
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Post by mrsixer123 on Oct 31, 2006 13:58:55 GMT -5
"Ahhhh, the Wallace Haters return in all their pathetic glory."
so you believe gerald handles the ball better than ashanti?
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Post by CO_Hoya on Oct 31, 2006 14:04:26 GMT -5
Remember, Ashanti played some horrible games as well - the final minutes against UCon in the 2005 BET comes to mind. Nominated for worst last-minute performane by a PG for that year's ESPY's. Seriously.
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Oct 31, 2006 14:05:07 GMT -5
so you believe gerald handles the ball better than ashanti? Who is Gerald? Gerald Riley? ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png)
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Post by TBird41 on Oct 31, 2006 14:06:01 GMT -5
Remember, Ashanti played some horrible games as well - the final minutes against UCon in the 2005 BET comes to mind. Nominated for worst last-minute performane by a PG for that year's ESPY's. Seriously. I think I recall something about Ashanti from the Hoyas last game in the BET...Nope. Guess not. That memory suppressant has really done a good job.
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Post by CO_Hoya on Oct 31, 2006 14:11:08 GMT -5
I think I recall something about Ashanti from the Hoyas last game in the BET...Nope. Guess not. That memory suppressant has really done a good job. Let us never speak of that again.
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Oct 31, 2006 14:18:23 GMT -5
I must respectfully disagree. We have one of the most reliable, ball handling point guards, in the BE, if not the country. How often did he turn it over last year??? There is a huge difference between being a great ball handler and not turning the ball over. Wallace rarely turns the ball over because he rarely makes aggressive plays, whether driving or passing. In terms of pure ball-handling skill, I'd say Sapp is better.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2006 14:18:56 GMT -5
"I must respectfully disagree. We have one of the most reliable, ball handling point guards, in the BE, if not the country. How often did he turn it over last year???" please tell me his name b/c ashanti is no longer on the team. if you think we have have break-you-down PG on our roster you are in for a rude awakening First of all, the point guard in the Princeton/Georgetown offense never has and never will be a break you down player. You seem to be judging Wallace on that basis alone. This system is based on passing, not one-on-one dribbling. The key for the point guard is distributing and Wallace did that very well. When he shot the 3, he had the highest percentage on the team. His assist to turnover ratio was great. His turnover numbers were miniscule. In the last minute of the game, the answer is not breaking down your defender. It is to pass to the open man. That happened in the Florida game. The result was a wide open 3 for Owens. What a shame he missed. But that was a great look. Jerry
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Oct 31, 2006 14:23:15 GMT -5
Jerry- what are you basing your assesment on? The variations of the Princeton in the NBA have dribble-drive PGs, and that is certainly what Chris Wright will be doing starting next year.
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