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Post by Coast2CoastHoya on Oct 28, 2006 14:37:31 GMT -5
brasky i'm right there with you bro. this season can't start fast enough.
is it a sign that the day before the first game is a federal holiday (i.e. one more day to party in anticipation)? i'm seriously starting to feel obsessed with this season even before it's begun.
as for our ranking: #8 sounds more than fine to me. #2 in the big east sounds more than fine to me. you know what numbers i want to see? low turnovers, lots of rebounds, high shooting percentage, green with tons of assists, roy with OSU game-eqsue highlights, wallace draining threes, low scoring games (i.e. us controlling the tempo), Ws agains Cuse, UConn, Duke, Nova (twice), Pitt, WVU, and Marquette, and of course: a 1 or 2 seed in march.
it is pretty nice to see UMCP and WG back where they belong tho'
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Post by bubbrubbhoya on Oct 28, 2006 17:47:28 GMT -5
"Others Receiving Votes: ...Maryland 12...George Washington 2..." Think we'll have any more GW kids marching up to campus this year? Doubt it.
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Oct 29, 2006 14:31:10 GMT -5
"Others Receiving Votes: ...Maryland 12...George Washington 2..." Think we'll have any more GW kids marching up to campus this year? Doubt it. I have no problem with GW kids coming to campus. Transfer applications are due in March.
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Post by 1227 on Oct 29, 2006 19:35:16 GMT -5
We should drop transfer applications from a plane flying over Foggy Bottom. Save them a trip up the hill.
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Post by 1984alloveragain on Oct 29, 2006 22:45:16 GMT -5
For Duke to be anywhere in the Top 15 or 20 is AMAZING.... They started 4 seniors against us last year, and Paulus - and they'll start much of the early part of the year with NONE of those guys... One of the things that excited me MOST about that great win on January 21st was that we started 3 sophs, and had 2 freshmen play big minutes as our 7th and 8th guys - while Duke had 4 seniors, with two of the top 5 guys from all of CBB from the year before. Don't be scared fellas, BE PSYCHED!!! # 8 will be our LOWEST pre-season ranking for years to come!!!
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Oct 29, 2006 22:55:20 GMT -5
84 - I share your optimism about Duke for a few of reasons:
1) Revenge won't be a huge motivator - Who is going to be around to take revenge of the loss? - Dockery is in Europe, Reddick and Williams are going to be there by December.
2) McBob will be on the court and I'm sure that as the second coming of Kareem, Jordan, Worthy, Bird, and Magic he'll do pretty well. However, we beat Duke when Reddick scored 41 - do you really think that McBob is going to be able to carry the players around him in the same fashion if he has to guard Green or worse - Hibbert on the other end of the court?
3) We are more experienced at every position.
4) Every player on the team knows the effort it takes to beat Duke and they know they can do it.
5) JTIII out-coached Coach K. I see nothing that says this won't happen again.
6) The Paulus effect - if the game is on the line you don't want a freshman with the ball in his hands - this will undoubtedly be the case.
7) They are adjusting to us, we aren't adjusting to them. They have to learn to defend our offense and figure out a game plan that will neutralize Green and Hibbert.
8) We are more athletic than they are.
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Post by lichoya68 on Oct 29, 2006 22:07:22 GMT -5
sounds ok to me IF we get someone else like guards to hit some shots thats what jt3 said so OK IF WE GET SOMEONE TO HIT SOME THREES go hoays
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Post by 1984alloveragain on Oct 29, 2006 22:08:31 GMT -5
Agreed on all those points, and then this one... They play Indiana just 3 days before us. They HAVE to focus on that game, somewhat similar to having to play NCState 3 days before last season's game against us. Someone know what their worst loss at home is under Coach K since 1985 (their first year in a Final 4 with him)? I'd LOVE us to be the team that THRASHES them at their place. I honestly expect us to be undefeated and somewhere in the top 3 by the time we go to Michigan to finish this calendar year. We NO LONGER have to play our best BBall to win games as in the past, but there's NOTHING about this coach or these men under him that tell me they won't ALWAYS put forth their best effort. Teams will HAVE to play THEIR best to beat these, and Future HOYA teams...
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Post by SFHoya99 on Oct 29, 2006 22:24:34 GMT -5
St. Pete,
2) Agree.
3) Last year we gave almost all our minutes to three seniors and three sophomores. I think it is questionable to say we'll be more experienced, as three of those roles will be filled with guys who have never played starter minutes before. EDIT: Oh, I think you mean we will be more experienced than Duke at every position -- still may be less at one of the forwards and one of the guards.
5) Agree.
6) He'll be a sophomore and probably much better.
8) Athleticism will be closer this year, with McBob likely playing C and Henderson and Demarcus Nelson likely starting.
9) The only thing I'm really worried about is playing at Cameron because of the effect the crowd has on the zebras. Sweetney and Co. were right in that game until the refs ended it.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Oct 29, 2006 22:52:32 GMT -5
Duke will have to be within striking distance for the zebras to effect the game. I trust we'll have succesfully beat them into submission before the refs can have a chance to even the playign field. Paulus also will only just have gotten back from injury if he plays at all besides the fact that he's not that great to start out with.
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Oct 29, 2006 22:56:33 GMT -5
Paulus' injury also means that he has limited time to develop chemistry with the people that he is passing to in game situations. He will also be less sure of how he plants his foot in traffic. This can definitely effect his play against us, if he makes it back in time.
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Post by JimmyHoya on Oct 30, 2006 7:17:51 GMT -5
I can't wait to see what their cheer sheets say about us
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Post by SoCal Hoya85 on Oct 30, 2006 9:29:41 GMT -5
I was at Duke's Blue and White scrimmage because my sister is a freshman there and it was parents weekend. They are saying Paulus is going to be back a lot quicker than most people thought. Some people were saying he would be back in a couple of weeks. He was even walking around without a boot or crutches.
Zoubeck and Thomas are beasts from what I saw so their front court will be able to match up fairly well with ours (I still think we have the advantage). However their guard play was absolutly atrocious. It got to the point where McRoberts was one of the best options bringing the ball up. I think we have the better team at this point.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2006 9:51:39 GMT -5
I was at Duke's Blue and White scrimmage because my sister is a freshman there and it was parents weekend. They are saying Paulus is going to be back a lot quicker than most people thought. Some people were saying he would be back in a couple of weeks. He was even walking around without a boot or crutches. Zoubeck and Thomas are beasts from what I saw so their front court will be able to match up fairly well with ours (I still think we have the advantage). However their guard play was absolutly atrocious. It got to the point where McRoberts was one of the best options bringing the ball up. I think we have the better team at this point. Zoubek and Thomas aren't nearly as good as Sheldon Williams and (insert any player here) were last year. G'Town's frontcourt was better then, its better now. I'm thinking nine-point Hoya victory in Durham.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Oct 30, 2006 10:07:39 GMT -5
I was at Duke's Blue and White scrimmage because my sister is a freshman there and it was parents weekend. They are saying Paulus is going to be back a lot quicker than most people thought. Some people were saying he would be back in a couple of weeks. He was even walking around without a boot or crutches. Zoubeck and Thomas are beasts from what I saw so their front court will be able to match up fairly well with ours (I still think we have the advantage). However their guard play was absolutly atrocious. It got to the point where McRoberts was one of the best options bringing the ball up. I think we have the better team at this point. Zoubek and Thomas aren't nearly as good as Sheldon Williams and (insert any player here) were last year. G'Town's frontcourt was better then, its better now. I'm thinking nine-point Hoya victory in Durham. Agreed, Zoubek is a beast...against short, young, inexperienced non-centers at a scrimmage. Duke only has three guys taller than 6'9 and two of them are freshmen and one a sophomore. I'd hope a 7-footer could dominate David McClure. We'll see if he can "beast" giving up 2 inches, 40lbs, and two years.
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Post by SoCal Hoya85 on Oct 30, 2006 10:20:06 GMT -5
Zoubek and Thomas aren't nearly as good as Sheldon Williams and (insert any player here) were last year. G'Town's frontcourt was better then, its better now. I'm thinking nine-point Hoya victory in Durham. Agreed, Zoubek is a beast...against short, young, inexperienced non-centers at a scrimmage. Duke only has three guys taller than 6'9 and two of them are freshmen and one a sophomore. I'd hope a 7-footer could dominate David McClure. We'll see if he can "beast" giving up 2 inches, 40lbs, and two years. Maybe beast was not the best term but I have to say I was really surprised with his performance. Zoubek was matched up against McRoberts in the first half and outplayed him in the post. He was agile and had a good touch to his jump hook. Do I think Roy is better? Hell yes, but I wanted to point out that this Duke team still has some bite, especially in their front court.
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Post by AvantGuardHoya on Oct 30, 2006 10:55:13 GMT -5
It clearly appears that a number of folks want to give short shrift to this year’s Duke team. Don’t get me wrong; I despise them as much, if not more than anyone, but my reading of the last 15 years is that Coach K always has the horses. More so than anyone else, he’s the one looking to redeem himself after last season’s Hoya upset. I’d imagine he’ll have his young team ready. And Cameron will be as difficult a place to play as we’ll encounter all year. Personally, I don’t think it promises to be a stroll in the park. I’m anticipating a tough battle and hoping we’ll win. But I don’t take it for granted….
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Post by TBird41 on Oct 30, 2006 10:58:14 GMT -5
It clearly appears that a number of folks want to give short shrift to this year’s Duke team. Don’t get me wrong; I despise them as much, if not more than anyone, but my reading of the last 15 years is that Coach K always has the horses. More so than anyone else, he’s the one looking to redeem himself after last season’s Hoya upset. I’d imagine he’ll have his young team ready. And Cameron will be as difficult a place to play as we’ll encounter all year. Personally, I don’t think it promises to be a stroll in the park. I’m anticipating a tough battle and hoping we’ll win. But I don’t take it for granted…. Ditto. And it's nowhere near the most important game on our schedule. The most important game the Hoyas play this year is on March 3rd, when we take back control of the Big East from the Huskies. (The second most important game is at Cuse. Normally, I'd have the Cuse game #1, but 10 years is way to long to lose to UConn).
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Post by CO_Hoya on Oct 30, 2006 11:19:23 GMT -5
Ditto. And it's nowhere near the most important game on our schedule. The most important game the Hoyas play this year is on March 3rd, when we take back control of the Big East from the Huskies. (The second most important game is at Cuse. Normally, I'd have the Cuse game #1, but 10 years is way to long to lose to UConn). To the core Hoya fanbase, I think this is true. But to the national media / non-Big East hoops fan, a win at Cameron, after beating them last year, would be huge. I couldn't find Duke OOC home record over the last 10-15 years, but they simply don't lose those games. I'd suggest that, if we win, it could be portrayed as a re-passing of the baton (a la Duke beating us in the '89 Elite Eight after JTII didn't win the gold medal in the Olympics the year before), especially with our recruiting classes coming the next 2 years. I don't think the situations are the same - early season vs. ticket to the Final 4; JTII losing interest in recruiting, vs. K pulling in 2-4 McDs every year; etc. - but it would make a great story.
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Post by AvantGuardHoya on Oct 30, 2006 11:49:22 GMT -5
I like your perspective, CO!
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