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Post by SFHoya99 on Oct 9, 2024 14:14:33 GMT -5
Are we assuming all teams will play us man to man. No pick and roll in zone coverage?? Hopefully our bigs can command a double team then look for the kick out or easy pass down low. I am sure we will hit zone at times, but in the modern game with good three point shooting, it's hard to play zone for extened periods of time unless the opposing team cannot shoot from three well (and even then it creates openings for even bad-shooting teams). There may be websites that track this, but if I had to guess, our opponents will be man to man 85% or more of the time. It will be interesting to see what Syracuse does. The only thing I am pretty certain will be a weakness for us coming into this year is three point shooting. So I could see a lot of zone used against us given Epps and Mack. Some teams simply don't play it, but we'll need guys like Sorber to kill it at the high post against a 2-3. |
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Post by calhoya on Oct 9, 2024 17:18:25 GMT -5
Not sure what to expect with such a young and inexperienced group. What does appear likely is that with the youth coming in as freshmen and transfers, the potential for growth and development between November and February seems greater than last year. Of course the concern with saying that Year 2 is a developmental year for Cooley is that in the world of NIL and college free agency there is no assurance that the players you develop this year will stick around for Year 3.
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Post by hoyaguy on Oct 10, 2024 9:35:51 GMT -5
Has at #100 which I feel is pretty fair and can definitely go either way depending on how things gel and players adjust.
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Post by professorhoya on Oct 10, 2024 13:28:40 GMT -5
Has at #100 which I feel is pretty fair and can definitely go either way depending on how things gel and players adjust. Brayden Smith as the #2 player in the nation? Hard to take this Evan Miya character seriously. |
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Post by SFHoya99 on Oct 10, 2024 14:33:14 GMT -5
Has at #100 which I feel is pretty fair and can definitely go either way depending on how things gel and players adjust. Brayden Smith as the #2 player in the nation? Hard to take this Evan Miya character seriously. It's a statistical ratings system. I don't know what Miya actually thinks, but if you are trying to build one, you don't alter individual results even if you disagree. The whole point is to find a fundamentally objective predictive system. So you wait for actual results, and evaluate from a process standpoint if you are lacking variables, incorrect weighting, etc. There's real value in the rigor, but it also means the system should be evaluated as a whole, not trying to cherry pick individual results (and frankly, not before actuals are in). I have no idea if his system is any good, though. |
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Post by SFHoya99 on Oct 10, 2024 14:41:50 GMT -5
Interesting, even if I have no idea how good his predictive system is, he is projecting a pretty big improvement across the board for us.
Last year, we only had four players who graded out positive with any real PT -- Fielder, Epps, Brumbaugh and Bristol.
Next year, the model has a huge improvement across the board, with Peavy and Mack our best two players, improvement from Fielder and Epps and most of the freshman offering some small positive value.
Peavy's his 12th highest rated player in the BE and clearly defense is going to be harder to be accurate on, so the model might be pretty bad, but there's a huge jump predicted there.
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Post by zxhoya on Oct 10, 2024 23:03:55 GMT -5
Has at #100 which I feel is pretty fair and can definitely go either way depending on how things gel and players adjust. Per his rankings: 08) Connecticut 13) Creighton 20) Marquette 27) Xavier 34) St. John's 49) Villanova 66) Providence 81) Seton Hall 87) Butler 100) Georgetown 109) DePaul This is where most predict we'll finish, at the bottom of the conference with DePaul, although the entire conference in the top 109 I guess is a positive. My prediction is that we'll finish top 5-6 in the BE and an NCAA tournament invite. The additions of Peavy, Mack and Sorber alone elevates us significantly but it's the depth that will benefit the team most. The competition in practice I believe is preparing them for the season and some unexpected cream will rise on this team along with the coaching staff, will return GU to it's former competitive glory......that's my prediction. |
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Post by RusskyHoya on Oct 11, 2024 8:14:56 GMT -5
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Post by conshyhoya on Oct 11, 2024 10:44:48 GMT -5
Brayden Smith as the #2 player in the nation? Hard to take this Evan Miya character seriously. It's a statistical ratings system. I don't know what Miya actually thinks, but if you are trying to build one, you don't alter individual results even if you disagree. The whole point is to find a fundamentally objective predictive system. So you wait for actual results, and evaluate from a process standpoint if you are lacking variables, incorrect weighting, etc. There's real value in the rigor, but it also means the system should be evaluated as a whole, not trying to cherry pick individual results (and frankly, not before actuals are in). I have no idea if his system is any good, though. If they are talking about most indispensable players and not the 10 best players, Braden Smith has to be the most important piece for Purdue to be a top 20 team with Edey gone so that seems about right to me. Without him I doubt they have a top 20 team and probably down the list quite a bit. |
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Post by hoyarooter on Oct 11, 2024 18:18:37 GMT -5
Has at #100 which I feel is pretty fair and can definitely go either way depending on how things gel and players adjust. Per his rankings: 08) Connecticut 13) Creighton 20) Marquette 27) Xavier 34) St. John's 49) Villanova 66) Providence 81) Seton Hall 87) Butler 100) Georgetown 109) DePaul This is where most predict we'll finish, at the bottom of the conference with DePaul, although the entire conference in the top 109 I guess is a positive. My prediction is that we'll finish top 5-6 in the BE and an NCAA tournament invite. The additions of Peavy, Mack and Sorber alone elevates us significantly but it's the depth that will benefit the team most. The competition in practice I believe is preparing them for the season and some unexpected cream will rise on this team along with the coaching staff, will return GU to it's former competitive glory......that's my prediction. While there's nothing wrong with a little optimism, this seems very aggressive. I hope if we don't reach this level you won't be back complaining that we underperformed. OTOH if you are correct, I'll try to remember to be the first to give you props. |
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Post by zxhoya on Oct 11, 2024 19:29:20 GMT -5
Per his rankings: 08) Connecticut 13) Creighton 20) Marquette 27) Xavier 34) St. John's 49) Villanova 66) Providence 81) Seton Hall 87) Butler 100) Georgetown 109) DePaul This is where most predict we'll finish, at the bottom of the conference with DePaul, although the entire conference in the top 109 I guess is a positive. My prediction is that we'll finish top 5-6 in the BE and an NCAA tournament invite. The additions of Peavy, Mack and Sorber alone elevates us significantly but it's the depth that will benefit the team most. The competition in practice I believe is preparing them for the season and some unexpected cream will rise on this team along with the coaching staff, will return GU to it's former competitive glory......that's my prediction. While there's nothing wrong with a little optimism, this seems very aggressive. I hope if we don't reach this level you won't be back complaining that we underperformed. OTOH if you are correct, I'll try to remember to be the first to give you props. I'm definitely a 'glass half full person' and I rarely complain about the team, I don't know if that's good or bad. I will say that I haven't been this optimistic about the Hoyas in quite some time and if we don't show marked improvement, I'll be very disappointed.......and surprised. |
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Post by thedragon on Oct 12, 2024 8:56:32 GMT -5
Scrimmage vs Maryland today. Will be curious what leaks.
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Post by DanMcQ on Oct 12, 2024 13:57:30 GMT -5
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Post by thedragon on Oct 12, 2024 16:56:31 GMT -5
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Post by bluegray79 on Oct 12, 2024 17:11:46 GMT -5
OK, OK - I'll take any positive news, and you're right, a 4 point win in a secret scrimmage with lots of DNP's isn't domination, but I am glad it wasn't the other way around. Plus, we really don't know the whole of it. Wait and see how the details play out.
Question: what role, if any, does/will Austin Montgomery play for the team this season? Is/Was he a walk-on? I remember him having a decent three-point shot last year, and he seems like a hard worker. From practice shots/photos, he looks like he's been keeping up with conditioning and is focused and intense in practice. Just wondering.
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Post by dense on Oct 12, 2024 17:12:56 GMT -5
OK, OK - I'll take any positive news, and you're right, a 4 point win in a secret scrimmage with lots of DNP's isn't domination, but I am glad it wasn't the other way around. Plus, we really don't know the whole of it. Wait and see how the details play out. Question: what role, if any, does/will Austin Montgomery play for the team this season? Is/Was he a walk-on? I remember him having a decent three-point shot last year, and he seems like a hard worker. From practice shots/photos, he looks like he's been keeping up with conditioning and is focused and intense in practice. Just wondering. Caleb's Dad is saying they were up 18 and led comfortably Maryland made it close at the end. |
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Post by SSHoya on Oct 12, 2024 17:51:47 GMT -5
Received this email October 3rd to an email account I only check occasionally.
As a valued Season Ticket Member, we're thrilled to invite you to an exclusive open practice session for the 2024-25 Georgetown Men's Basketball team! This special event is our way of showing appreciation for your unwavering support and dedication.
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Date: Saturday, October 19th, 2024
Time: 11:00 AM - 1:00 PM
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Post by DanMcQ on Oct 12, 2024 20:56:18 GMT -5
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Post by hoyaatheart55 on Oct 12, 2024 20:59:17 GMT -5
For reference, Maryland is #42 in Bart Torvik preseason rankings (we are #104). Joe Lunardi has UM in his first four out in his preseason bracketology.
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Post by hoyarooter on Oct 13, 2024 5:34:07 GMT -5
I love beating Maryland, even if it doesn't count.
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