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Post by blueandgray on Jul 24, 2024 13:22:57 GMT -5
Thanks, Blue & Gray. Where I believe Seal can help in 2024 is in practice. If Sorber and Fielder need to sit out a practices for minor injury, at least the other has someone to practice against. Personally, I would feel better if Seal was on the bench for those war of attribution games (1 or 2 a year) knowing that Caleb Williams was not the next man up at 5 even if Seal’srole for the year was very limited. No no no, I do not want him wasting a year of eligibility to be a backup-backup for 1 or 2 scenarios. Moreover, in today's world on NIL....whether to redshirt or not is more of a mutual decision between player and coach. Not only does a player give up a year of eligibility but also a year of NIL earnings. For that to happen, both player and coach would have to think that the kid could be a regular rotation player in order to give up the red shirt year. Not sure 2 to 5 minutes a game would warrant that. Ten minutes plus a game would be a different discussion. At the end of the day, these decisions are made in November. |
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Post by EtomicB on Jul 24, 2024 13:32:30 GMT -5
No no no, I do not want him wasting a year of eligibility to be a backup-backup for 1 or 2 scenarios. Moreover, in today's world on NIL....whether to redshirt or not is more of a mutual decision between player and coach. Not only does a player give up a year of eligibility but also a year of NIL earnings. For that to happen, both player and coach would have to think that the kid could be a regular rotation player in order to give up the red shirt year. Not sure 2 to 5 minutes a game would warrant that. Ten minutes plus a game would be a different discussion. At the end of the day, these decisions are made in November. Why does a player have to give up NIL earnings? |
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Post by conshyhoya on Jul 24, 2024 14:51:43 GMT -5
I think if he reclassifies you use him if needed. It potentially allows you to use what is most likely your best lineup (Fielder and Sorber at the same time) by having some bench behind Sorber for spot minutes in case of foul trouble and rest. Also in the NIL era under current rules it will be rare to have a player for 4 years and in this case if he reclassifies and redshirts 5 years. Now if an option that is more ready does happen to come then yes save him and let him develop behind the scenes at practice and utilize our S&C. While I get your point that redshirting primarily helps a program if the player stays for all 4 years of eligibility, it is a double edged sword - if you burn a year of eligibility just for the player to be an emergency bench guy plus an extra practice body, you risk the player resenting losing that year of production and of additional NIL. Speaking of which, for those in the know - what is the situation for NIL with a redshirt? Are they offered one amount if they are on the roster and less if they redshirt? The same amount either way? Of course that is a conversation between the staff and a player if he wants to do that. How is it burning a year? What 3 star that is raw is starting or getting significant minutes his freshman year even if he redshirts on a high major team? You think after redshirting he is going to get meaningful minutes next year? He gets to develop in live action while providing a valuable role and if someone gets hurt or is sick with this current roster construction he may get real minutes. |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jul 24, 2024 14:56:11 GMT -5
My assumption is that a player who redshirts still gets NIL money, since that is part of the original deal when they commit. So if they redshirt they can get 5 years of NIL.
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Post by blueandgray on Jul 24, 2024 16:36:19 GMT -5
My assumption is that a player who redshirts still gets NIL money, since that is part of the original deal when they commit. So if they redshirt they can get 5 years of NIL. Absolutely…simple math. 5 years on NIL money versus 4. Desirable red shirts get NIL money. |
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Post by DanMcQ on Jul 24, 2024 18:51:28 GMT -5
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Post by DanMcQ on Jul 24, 2024 20:05:25 GMT -5
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Post by 78HOYA78 on Jul 25, 2024 9:54:23 GMT -5
Am I missing something here: With three open scholarships remaining in the 2023-24 recruiting cycle, Georgetown has added a 6-8 center with an eye to
For reasons unknown, the basketball office no longer announces its recruits, but Joe Tipton at On3.com once again had the scoop on 6-8 Seal Diouf, a native of the Netherlands who prepped at the Dunn School in Santa Barbara, CA. Diouf averaged 23 points and 11 rebounds at Dunn (16-10 in 2023-24), which competes at the smaller Division IV level of California high school play. A three-star recruit ranked #254 nationally, he played alongside his brother, Latif, who signed with Tennessee-Chattanooga.
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Post by 78HOYA78 on Jul 25, 2024 11:16:42 GMT -5
OOOPS - I'm late to the party.
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Post by guru on Jul 25, 2024 12:54:03 GMT -5
Am I missing something here: With three open scholarships remaining in the 2023-24 recruiting cycle, Georgetown has added a 6-8 center with an eye to For reasons unknown, the basketball office no longer announces its recruits, but Joe Tipton at On3.com once again had the scoop on 6-8 Seal Diouf, a native of the Netherlands who prepped at the Dunn School in Santa Barbara, CA. Diouf averaged 23 points and 11 rebounds at Dunn (16-10 in 2023-24), which competes at the smaller Division IV level of California high school play. A three-star recruit ranked #254 nationally, he played alongside his brother, Latif, who signed with Tennessee-Chattanooga. It's pretty bizarre. Remains pretty hard to see anything resembling a coherent plan in place. |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jul 25, 2024 13:05:35 GMT -5
Am I missing something here: With three open scholarships remaining in the 2023-24 recruiting cycle, Georgetown has added a 6-8 center with an eye to For reasons unknown, the basketball office no longer announces its recruits, but Joe Tipton at On3.com once again had the scoop on 6-8 Seal Diouf, a native of the Netherlands who prepped at the Dunn School in Santa Barbara, CA. Diouf averaged 23 points and 11 rebounds at Dunn (16-10 in 2023-24), which competes at the smaller Division IV level of California high school play. A three-star recruit ranked #254 nationally, he played alongside his brother, Latif, who signed with Tennessee-Chattanooga. It's pretty bizarre. Remains pretty hard to see anything resembling a coherent plan in place. Why is it bizarre? Have you read the history of this on the recruiting page? A 17 year old under the radar kid with potential, we have scholarships so used one on him. |
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Post by madgesiq92 on Jul 31, 2024 9:02:54 GMT -5
Am I missing something here: With three open scholarships remaining in the 2023-24 recruiting cycle, Georgetown has added a 6-8 center with an eye to For reasons unknown, the basketball office no longer announces its recruits, but Joe Tipton at On3.com once again had the scoop on 6-8 Seal Diouf, a native of the Netherlands who prepped at the Dunn School in Santa Barbara, CA. Diouf averaged 23 points and 11 rebounds at Dunn (16-10 in 2023-24), which competes at the smaller Division IV level of California high school play. A three-star recruit ranked #254 nationally, he played alongside his brother, Latif, who signed with Tennessee-Chattanooga. It's pretty bizarre. Remains pretty hard to see anything resembling a coherent plan in place. Couldn't disagree with this more. |
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Post by biggmanu on Aug 4, 2024 16:47:52 GMT -5
Maybe Euro kids stick around longer
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Post by SFHoya99 on Aug 5, 2024 15:20:05 GMT -5
Julius Halaifonua, a 7' Kiwi with sweet moves and a strong pick and roll game, just committed and will be on campus this year.
Bigs are young but very offensively talented.
Bigs - Fielder, Halaifonua, Sorber
Big Wings - Peavy, McKenna, Caleb Williams, Burks
Smaller Wings - Mulready, Curtis Williams
Guards - Mack, Epps
This team is so much longer and athletic.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Aug 5, 2024 15:25:11 GMT -5
A very promising class of '24. Excited to see them develop.
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Post by SDHoya on Aug 5, 2024 16:15:12 GMT -5
Julius Halaifonua, a 7' Kiwi with sweet moves and a strong pick and roll game, just committed and will be on campus this year. Bigs are young but very offensively talented. Bigs - Fielder, Halaifonua, Sorber Big Wings - Peavy, McKenna, Caleb Williams, Burks Smaller Wings - Mulready, Curtis Williams Guards - Mack, Epps This team is so much longer and athletic. I think its safe to say that Mack, Epps and Peavy are locked in as day 1 starters. I have absolutely no idea who will start at 4 and 5, nor what the rotations will be at all positions. Assume neither does Cooley at this point. Good problems to have. |
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Post by jwp91 on Aug 5, 2024 16:25:05 GMT -5
I think this signing may free up Fielder to play mostly at 4 if that is where he best fits.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Aug 5, 2024 17:12:52 GMT -5
I think this signing may free up Fielder to play mostly at 4 if that is where he best fits. One of my thoughts exactly. I also don't think it can be understated how important he is from a depth perspective too. While I am very high on Fielder and Sorber, we were basically entering a situation where an injury to either one would be catastrophic for our season. While I think it still would be, having depth gives us flexibility in such a situation, which we basically did not have last year. |
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Post by SFHoya99 on Aug 5, 2024 17:40:30 GMT -5
I think this signing may free up Fielder to play mostly at 4 if that is where he best fits. One of my thoughts exactly. I also don't think it can be understated how important he is from a depth perspective too. While I am very high on Fielder and Sorber, we were basically entering a situation where an injury to either one would be catastrophic for our season. While I think it still would be, having depth gives us flexibility in such a situation, which we basically did not have last year. I think the depth component might actually be the biggest part. Between long term injuries, short term injuries and foul trouble, plus relying on a freshman and sophomore without a lot of minutes coming in ... the chances we'd find ourselves in a really bad center situation either at some point or all season were actually pretty high. Halaifonua is also a freshman, and also young, so he's not a sure thing, either. But we now have three possibilities instead of two, and that's a huge thing. It doesn't remove the concern, and it sure as heck is still a giant question mark on defense because everyone is so young ... but it's still massive to have a third big. That's before we even get to the offensive tools Julius has, which are pretty substantial. |
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Post by Gammo on Aug 5, 2024 18:02:52 GMT -5
Julius Halaifonua, a 7' Kiwi with sweet moves and a strong pick and roll game, just committed and will be on campus this year. Bigs are young but very offensively talented. Bigs - Fielder, Halaifonua, Sorber Big Wings - Peavy, McKenna, Caleb Williams, Burks Smaller Wings - Mulready, Curtis Williams Guards - Mack, Epps This team is so much longer and athletic. F yes!! |
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