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Post by jwp91 on Jul 23, 2024 14:45:08 GMT -5
Diouf clearly has some upside but not sure a 6' 8' agile 215 pound guy qualifies as a "big" in the context of what Georgetown was looking for. Sounds much more like a 4 than a 5. But Cooley had the scholarship..........so........why not. If you watch his highlights, he plays a lot more like a big than McKenna or Caleb's highlights. It appears he can play back to the basket some he could be a small 5 in a pinch.
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Post by MCIGuy on Jul 23, 2024 15:55:21 GMT -5
Diouf clearly has some upside but not sure a 6' 8' agile 215 pound guy qualifies as a "big" in the context of what Georgetown was looking for. Sounds much more like a 4 than a 5. But Cooley had the scholarship..........so........why not. If you watch his highlights, he plays a lot more like a big than McKenna or Caleb's highlights. It appears he can play back to the basket some he could be a small 5 in a pinch. But who was ever claiming McKenna or Caleb were bigs?
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Post by BeantownHoya on Jul 23, 2024 16:24:52 GMT -5
If you watch his highlights, he plays a lot more like a big than McKenna or Caleb's highlights. It appears he can play back to the basket some he could be a small 5 in a pinch. But who was ever claiming McKenna or Caleb were bigs? I think what he was trying to say is that without Diouf those were going to be the guys forced to play some 4. I believe he's just saying he is an actual 4 in size and skillet where those guys are best suited at the 3.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jul 23, 2024 16:52:05 GMT -5
Diouf clearly has some upside but not sure a 6' 8' agile 215 pound guy qualifies as a "big" in the context of what Georgetown was looking for. Sounds much more like a 4 than a 5. But Cooley had the scholarship..........so........why not. Where did you get that he's 215? I've seen 230 in other places. He doesn't look particularly skinny. He's bouncy and can block some shots. I'm not sure what makes someone a center versus a power forward there, but that's what I want out of my big.
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Post by calhoya on Jul 23, 2024 17:06:24 GMT -5
I do not want him to reclassify unless it is fairly certain he is going to get meaningful minutes. If there is a real shot at another big who can help immediately then delay any decision on reclassifying. Much rather he play alot even at the high school/club team level than sit on the bench and only get practice time.
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Post by bluechi on Jul 23, 2024 19:03:19 GMT -5
where did you see reclass info?
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Post by professorhoya on Jul 23, 2024 21:48:10 GMT -5
This says he’s 6-10. He doesn’t seem that explosive or athletic to me but he does seem to have some length and some bulk and size already at 17 and which could fill out more to be a Cooley type banger. He seems crafty but not overpowering at the moment www.instagram.com/seal.diouf/reel/C7sukcvtZaP/?locale=id
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Post by jwp91 on Jul 23, 2024 23:06:58 GMT -5
where did you see reclass info? Seeing multiple reports that is a possibility including one confirmed by someone in program.
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Post by bluechi on Jul 24, 2024 8:05:06 GMT -5
Yes me too but thought the article mentioned it.
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Post by madgesiq92 on Jul 24, 2024 8:16:26 GMT -5
Diouf clearly has some upside but not sure a 6' 8' agile 215 pound guy qualifies as a "big" in the context of what Georgetown was looking for. Sounds much more like a 4 than a 5. But Cooley had the scholarship..........so........why not. Bad take---this kid is going to be a big time contributor down the road. This is much more than a "why not" committment.
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Post by blueandgray on Jul 24, 2024 9:04:01 GMT -5
Let me help out here. Seal is not the answer to our challenges in the middle for 2024. If he does reclass, it’s a 90% plus chance that It would be as a redshirt. I know Fielder came in with plans to redshirt and ended up playing a big role, but seal at this point is not fielder in that he’s younger and not as developed.
To someone’s point in his recruiting thread, it would be a development year for him at Georgetown as opposed to jumping to a higher level high school for 8 months of development there. He has not been with the team this summer, he’s young and he is raw. Probably smart not to consider him as much of a factor for 24’.
All this being said, I do think he will play an important role in 2025.
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Post by blueandgray on Jul 24, 2024 9:08:08 GMT -5
By the way, it was pretty well known that all the schools recruiting him (including schools like Michigan and Texas Tech, all had an open spot for 2024 in case the reclass and redshirt scenario came to fruition.
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Post by BeantownHoya on Jul 24, 2024 9:10:56 GMT -5
Let me help out here. Seal is not the answer to our challenges in the middle for 2024. If he does reclass, it’s a 90% plus chance that It would be as a redshirt. I know Fielder came in with plans to redshirt and ended up playing a big role, but seal at this point is not fielder in that he’s younger and not as developed. To someone’s point in his recruiting thread, it would be a development year for him at Georgetown as opposed to jumping to a higher level high school for 8 months of development there. He has not been with the team this summer, he’s young and he is raw. Probably smart not to consider him as much of a factor for 24’. All this being said, I do think he will play an important role in 2025. Thanks blue and gray... So with that said is it a safe assumption that Cooley and Staff continue to look for another big man? I realize looking and landing are 2 very different things but assuming they recognize we still are thin upfront? Someone like Halaifonua or similar?
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Post by jwp91 on Jul 24, 2024 9:26:39 GMT -5
Let me help out here. Seal is not the answer to our challenges in the middle for 2024. If he does reclass, it’s a 90% plus chance that It would be as a redshirt. I know Fielder came in with plans to redshirt and ended up playing a big role, but seal at this point is not fielder in that he’s younger and not as developed. To someone’s point in his recruiting thread, it would be a development year for him at Georgetown as opposed to jumping to a higher level high school for 8 months of development there. He has not been with the team this summer, he’s young and he is raw. Probably smart not to consider him as much of a factor for 24’. All this being said, I do think he will play an important role in 2025. Thanks, Blue & Gray. Where I believe Seal can help in 2024 is in practice. If Sorber and Fielder need to sit out a practices for minor injury, at least the other has someone to practice against. Personally, I would feel better if Seal was on the bench for those war of attribution games (1 or 2 a year) knowing that Caleb Williams was not the next man up at 5 even if Seal’srole for the year was very limited.
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Post by jwp91 on Jul 24, 2024 9:32:33 GMT -5
Let me help out here. Seal is not the answer to our challenges in the middle for 2024. If he does reclass, it’s a 90% plus chance that It would be as a redshirt. I know Fielder came in with plans to redshirt and ended up playing a big role, but seal at this point is not fielder in that he’s younger and not as developed. To someone’s point in his recruiting thread, it would be a development year for him at Georgetown as opposed to jumping to a higher level high school for 8 months of development there. He has not been with the team this summer, he’s young and he is raw. Probably smart not to consider him as much of a factor for 24’. All this being said, I do think he will play an important role in 2025. Thanks blue and gray... So with that said is it a safe assumption that Cooley and Staff continue to look for another big man? I realize looking and landing are 2 very different things but assuming they recognize we still are thin upfront? Someone like Halaifonua or similar? I am sure they continue to look for a 2024 contributor at big…especially if Diouf is not a 2024 solution……Halaifonua and others Do you think Halaifonua could contribute this year?
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jul 24, 2024 10:15:15 GMT -5
Let me help out here. Seal is not the answer to our challenges in the middle for 2024. If he does reclass, it’s a 90% plus chance that It would be as a redshirt. I know Fielder came in with plans to redshirt and ended up playing a big role, but seal at this point is not fielder in that he’s younger and not as developed. To someone’s point in his recruiting thread, it would be a development year for him at Georgetown as opposed to jumping to a higher level high school for 8 months of development there. He has not been with the team this summer, he’s young and he is raw. Probably smart not to consider him as much of a factor for 24’. All this being said, I do think he will play an important role in 2025. Thanks, Blue & Gray. Where I believe Seal can help in 2024 is in practice. If Sorber and Fielder need to sit out a practices for minor injury, at least the other has someone to practice against. Personally, I would feel better if Seal was on the bench for those war of attribution games (1 or 2 a year) knowing that Caleb Williams was not the next man up at 5 even if Seal’srole for the year was very limited. Pretty sure Burks would be the next man up.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jul 24, 2024 10:46:41 GMT -5
Let me help out here. Seal is not the answer to our challenges in the middle for 2024. If he does reclass, it’s a 90% plus chance that It would be as a redshirt. I know Fielder came in with plans to redshirt and ended up playing a big role, but seal at this point is not fielder in that he’s younger and not as developed. To someone’s point in his recruiting thread, it would be a development year for him at Georgetown as opposed to jumping to a higher level high school for 8 months of development there. He has not been with the team this summer, he’s young and he is raw. Probably smart not to consider him as much of a factor for 24’. All this being said, I do think he will play an important role in 2025. Thanks, Blue & Gray. Where I believe Seal can help in 2024 is in practice. If Sorber and Fielder need to sit out a practices for minor injury, at least the other has someone to practice against. Personally, I would feel better if Seal was on the bench for those war of attribution games (1 or 2 a year) knowing that Caleb Williams was not the next man up at 5 even if Seal’srole for the year was very limited. No no no, I do not want him wasting a year of eligibility to be a backup-backup for 1 or 2 scenarios.
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Post by jwp91 on Jul 24, 2024 11:16:20 GMT -5
Thanks, Blue & Gray. Where I believe Seal can help in 2024 is in practice. If Sorber and Fielder need to sit out a practices for minor injury, at least the other has someone to practice against. Personally, I would feel better if Seal was on the bench for those war of attribution games (1 or 2 a year) knowing that Caleb Williams was not the next man up at 5 even if Seal’srole for the year was very limited. No no no, I do not want him waiting a year of eligibility to be a backup-backup for 1 or 2 scenarios. I was mistaken thinking the football situation applied in basketball. Football players can play in a third of their team's games (four) and still redshirt, but basketball still does not allow any games to maintain a redshirt. Agree. This wouldn't make sense.
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Post by conshyhoya on Jul 24, 2024 11:57:17 GMT -5
No no no, I do not want him waiting a year of eligibility to be a backup-backup for 1 or 2 scenarios. I was mistaken thinking the football situation applied in basketball. Football players can play in a third of their team's games (four) and still redshirt, but basketball still does not allow any games to maintain a redshirt. Agree. This wouldn't make sense. I think if he reclassifies you use him if needed. It potentially allows you to use what is most likely your best lineup (Fielder and Sorber at the same time) by having some bench behind Sorber for spot minutes in case of foul trouble and rest. Also in the NIL era under current rules it will be rare to have a player for 4 years and in this case if he reclassifies and redshirts 5 years. Now if an option that is more ready does happen to come then yes save him and let him develop behind the scenes at practice and utilize our S&C.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jul 24, 2024 13:10:42 GMT -5
I was mistaken thinking the football situation applied in basketball. Football players can play in a third of their team's games (four) and still redshirt, but basketball still does not allow any games to maintain a redshirt. Agree. This wouldn't make sense. I think if he reclassifies you use him if needed. It potentially allows you to use what is most likely your best lineup (Fielder and Sorber at the same time) by having some bench behind Sorber for spot minutes in case of foul trouble and rest. Also in the NIL era under current rules it will be rare to have a player for 4 years and in this case if he reclassifies and redshirts 5 years. Now if an option that is more ready does happen to come then yes save him and let him develop behind the scenes at practice and utilize our S&C. While I get your point that redshirting primarily helps a program if the player stays for all 4 years of eligibility, it is a double edged sword - if you burn a year of eligibility just for the player to be an emergency bench guy plus an extra practice body, you risk the player resenting losing that year of production and of additional NIL. Speaking of which, for those in the know - what is the situation for NIL with a redshirt? Are they offered one amount if they are on the roster and less if they redshirt? The same amount either way?
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