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Post by thedragon on Sept 6, 2024 23:34:02 GMT -5
Anybody that misses boya is a masochist.
Cooley has never been into his own social media, but the program (of which Cooley is the CEO) misses so many engagement opportunities by not doing the bare minimum as DFW mentions.
A preseason video introducing the team as school begins.
Midnight madness event. (Even Ewing brought Fanta in to MC some nonsense preseason interview)
Weekly Radio show should be a requisite in season. Any program worth it's salt has one.
You can't even find the post-game presser for road games unless the opposing team posts it.
I'm not expecting Cooley to turn the program into some social media phenomenon - but the current efforts toward 21st century fan engagement are porous.
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Post by MCIGuy on Sept 7, 2024 4:36:09 GMT -5
Go to a Providence board then. If you really miss hoyaboya, you'll get the same thing there as you would have from hoyaboya - absolutely insincere hate of Georgetown Basketball that is solely based around a dumb grudge over the Ed Cooley hire. I'm not being facetious or sarcastic here - whatever void you feel over that guy not being here you could fill by just reading the dumbest posts by Providence fans. And who will fill the recruiting news void he left? Say what you will of boya, but he was the only poster providing regular recruiting news mentioning GU, top 25 kids or top DMV prospects. Now, HoyaTalk looks like a political blog. đ I hope that was sarcasm.
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Post by MCIGuy on Sept 7, 2024 4:54:44 GMT -5
We had YaBoyNYP who was the best ever at it and then you decided to be all "but you've posted 11 times and the rules are only 10 posts" so maybe the answer is go somewhere else for recruiting news. boya didn't really care about Hoya recruiting all that much, he cared about who we missed so he could slam the program about it. Ja! I donât make the rules around here; I just follow them. Among other things, Boya posted recruiting news about high school seniors, juniors and more who hadnât committed, so it wasnât just about missed recruits. Only thing boya did was post information that was free to anyone who had access to Google and Twitter. I would do my recruit searches at my normal free spots, see new developments, and then observe one to four days later as boya posted that same info. He wasn't giving us any inside scoops from the program nor was he even giving us anything from sites you had to pay for. I used to post some of that stuff as well but did less and less of it as others, newer and younger guys, picked up the slack. And then boya came along and decided he was going to post anything and everything he came across. It got to the point he essentially became the only guy doing this. Frankly this led me to stop reading the recruiting threads on this page. All the info he had I already knew because, again, the information was already available on the internet. Boya was not adding anything new for me at least. And unlike some of the best recruiting info guys here of the past who were more sporadic but had true connections, boya was far more about quantity than quality. His deciding to post every recruiting uodate , even if the information was useless, just added to his obnoxious habitual traits. As others pointed out he kept posting info about recruits even long after it was certain those recruits were not considering Georgetown anymore. Often that was a result of him not having true sources to tell him what was going on.
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Post by MCIGuy on Sept 7, 2024 5:02:22 GMT -5
The board will be more active when there is more to post about. Itâs still very much the off-season. Agreed but it would be nice to hear from Cooley or at least someone on the staff about the new & old players, summer workouts/practices, team strengths etc... It's very sobering/sad how quickly Cooley & staff assimilated to Gtown's closed off approach to everything fan & media related. I suppose one can reasonably make that argument. But there are people on Twitter and on Hoya Report (despite its flaws) who do have inside information regarding what Cooley is thinking and how the summer workouts are going. The question you have to ask yourself is why isn't there anyone who is still on Hoya Talk with that type of access? For one reason or another this site has lost almost all of the people with such access.The shrinking of the fan base has not helped.
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Post by MCIGuy on Sept 7, 2024 5:05:50 GMT -5
Anybody that misses boya is a masochist. Cooley has never been into his own social media, but the program (of which Cooley is the CEO) misses so many engagement opportunities by not doing the bare minimum as DFW mentions. A preseason video introducing the team as school begins. Midnight madness event. (Even Ewing brought Fanta in to MC some nonsense preseason interview) Weekly Radio show should be a requisite in season. Any program worth it's salt has one. You can't even find the post-game presser for road games unless the opposing team posts it. I'm not expecting Cooley to turn the program into some social media phenomenon - but the current efforts toward 21st century fan engagement are porous. This is a fair critique.
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Post by SSHoya on Sept 7, 2024 6:02:17 GMT -5
Heck, so my tickets are going to cost the same plus a rolled in donation? I guess it saves administrative costs? But the end of August has passed and nada. Zilch information. I guess my question is whether the same pricing structure is going to be in place. I used to pay $1500 per season to the Hoop Club for my 2 seat licenses ($750 each seat). So two tickets cost me about $2500 each season. Is that still going to be the bottom line cost?? I haven't heard zip from GU since the July 11 email, and have tix in the sections that should be asked if they want to move AND are occupied by many season ticket holders who I know for certain would end up having to shift non deminimis donations from other places at GU (raising my hand here) to absorb the price of the required "donation" being rolled into the ticket prices. In fact, I have been checking here regularly in hopes of getting an update. Disappointed in it all, including the lack of communication, but can't say I'm surprised. I hope perhaps there has been enough pushback already on the donation element that they are rethinking it, but that is likely wishful thinking. I do know that it will be a tough, tough pill to swallow (bill to foot?) if it is unchanged/support for other aspects of GU athletics no longer counts and the entire required donation ends up simply a direct or indirect subsidy of NIL funds and/or defraying the costs of other elements of the men's basketball program.... One would have hoped that Georgetown would have had greater communication with those who have consistently supported the basketball program through thick, and most recently, thin. But, alas, twas not to be. If they are rethinking it, they'd better think fast but that's not Georgetown's strength either.
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Post by kghoya on Sept 7, 2024 6:08:37 GMT -5
It's a program for decades that's mainly viewed fans and fan engagement as a nuisance and that hasn't changed. Admin outsiders would be needed for that shift.
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Post by SSHoya on Sept 7, 2024 12:43:59 GMT -5
Okay, the Ticket Office must be reading HoyaTalk. I responded that I'd be happy with the seat relocation and also asked Andrew if the rolled in seat contribution level to mantain seats will be the same as last year.
I received the following e-mail this morning at 8:02 am:
Dear [SSHoya],
I hope you had a great summer, we are excited for the season to begin in just two months. We hope to have the Big East schedule next week. With the Hoyas bench and visiting bench switching sides, I wanted to check in with a relocation option. Do you want to move to Sec 121/H/14-15? These are pretty much identical seats to what you had in row H over the past where they are over the hockey tunnel with the folding chairs in place.
Please let me know your thoughts when you have a chance or if you have any questions.
Thank you,
Andrew
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Post by jwp91 on Sept 7, 2024 13:20:47 GMT -5
As far as I am aware, Cooleyâs off-season comments have been limited to those who are donating to NIL. I think that ante is $250. Otherwise, there seems to have been radio silence. I guess that is one way to do it.
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Post by prhoya on Sept 7, 2024 13:54:55 GMT -5
And who will fill the recruiting news void he left? Say what you will of boya, but he was the only poster providing regular recruiting news mentioning GU, top 25 kids or top DMV prospects. Now, HoyaTalk looks like a political blog. đ I hope that was sarcasm. No. Who will fill that void? I donât know how many posters have time to look through recruiting sites for info. He provided a one-stop shop. Btw, hopefully nothing bad happened to him. Weâve had several posters who have passed away.
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Post by prhoya on Sept 7, 2024 13:56:34 GMT -5
As far as I am aware, Cooleyâs off-season comments have been limited to those who are donating to NIL. I think that ante is $250. Otherwise, there seems to have been radio silence. I guess that is one way to do it. If so, thatâs a great way to build the needed fan engagement and enthusiasm to then increase attendance numbers and create a better game-day environment at CaveOne! (MCI, thatâs sarcasm)
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Post by hoyajmw on Sept 7, 2024 15:20:32 GMT -5
Okay, the Ticket Office must be reading HoyaTalk. I responded that I'd be happy with the seat relocation and also asked Andrew if the rolled in seat contribution level to mantain seats will be the same as last year. I received the following e-mail this morning at 8:02 am: Dear [SSHoya], I hope you had a great summer, we are excited for the season to begin in just two months. We hope to have the Big East schedule next week. With the Hoyas bench and visiting bench switching sides, I wanted to check in with a relocation option. Do you want to move to Sec 121/H/14-15? These are pretty much identical seats to what you had in row H over the past where they are over the hockey tunnel with the folding chairs in place. Please let me know your thoughts when you have a chance or if you have any questions. Thank you, Andrew I received a similar email at almost the exact same time this morningâŚ
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Post by DanMcQ on Sept 7, 2024 16:29:13 GMT -5
Okay, the Ticket Office must be reading HoyaTalk. I responded that I'd be happy with the seat relocation and also asked Andrew if the rolled in seat contribution level to mantain seats will be the same as last year. I received the following e-mail this morning at 8:02 am: Dear [SSHoya], I hope you had a great summer, we are excited for the season to begin in just two months. We hope to have the Big East schedule next week. With the Hoyas bench and visiting bench switching sides, I wanted to check in with a relocation option. Do you want to move to Sec 121/H/14-15? These are pretty much identical seats to what you had in row H over the past where they are over the hockey tunnel with the folding chairs in place. Please let me know your thoughts when you have a chance or if you have any questions. Thank you, Andrew I received a similar email at almost the exact same time this morning⌠Not me - my seats are right on the midcourt line, so no need to move.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Sept 7, 2024 23:52:29 GMT -5
While I thought YaBoyNYP posts in the recruiting thread were very useful and I appreciated them, I do think that the importance of high school recruiting has decreased with the free transfers and NIL. In the past, I used to try to closely follow our high school progress, particularly with the next class, but in recent times the urgency of doing so is less. For one, we all learn about commits when they happen or when there is news bubbling out there. Second, free transfers have made the importance of the high school class significantly less.
Take our situation. If this was 2005, we'd be in pretty good shape with our freshman class. We'd likely be looking at at least several years of Sorber, Mulready, etc., which would put us in a really great place going forward. Obviously, these guys are still crucial, but the high school incoming classes matter less than they used to because of the ease with which the guys can leave.
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Post by hoyaatheart55 on Sept 8, 2024 1:15:44 GMT -5
Iâll say itâŚI miss hoyaboyaâs contributions 𫢠He stirred up interesting conversation and kept the board more active, particularly with his recruiting updates. Iâd hate for boya not to be here when we get this thing turned around. #BoyaComeHome So you miss your abuser? He didn't stir up anything. He trolled the board and as soon as positivity started happening he ghosted the site...just wait to something, anything negative happens he will show up to bash Coach. I don't let anybody else's negativitiy bother me. Maybe I'm just a sicko. For example I also miss HoyaFanSinceEwingEra. Free entertainment! Part of the reason I brought up Boya is I would be interested to see what he decides to harp on if we start winning again lol.
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Post by EtomicB on Sept 8, 2024 15:55:54 GMT -5
Agreed but it would be nice to hear from Cooley or at least someone on the staff about the new & old players, summer workouts/practices, team strengths etc... It's very sobering/sad how quickly Cooley & staff assimilated to Gtown's closed off approach to everything fan & media related. I suppose one can reasonably make that argument. But there are people on Twitter and on Hoya Report (despite its flaws) who do have inside information regarding what Cooley is thinking and how the summer workouts are going. The question you have to ask yourself is why isn't there anyone who is still on Hoya Talk with that type of access? For one reason or another this site has lost almost all of the people with such access.The shrinking of the fan base has not helped. Iâm on HR, Ronâs summer practice reports were good but they were from his perspective not Cooleyâs or staff members.. Insiders posting how the staff âlovesâ player X shouldnât be ignored but it doesnât replace hearing it directly from staff members Hereâs an example of what Sean Miller does at Xavier. Do I expect this type of performance from Cooley? Nope, but a presser every 5 to 6 weeks during the offseason isnât a high bar to clear especially for a program with a low excitement level within its fan base
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Post by blueandgray on Sept 8, 2024 21:51:41 GMT -5
Fwiw, there is quite a bit of chatter suggesting that the starting line up could very well be the following:
Mack - pg Epps - sg Burks - sf Peavy - pf Sorber - center
Would this surprise anyone?
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Post by 401to202hoya on Sept 8, 2024 22:13:36 GMT -5
Fwiw, there is quite a bit of chatter suggesting that the starting line up could very well be the following: Mack - pg Epps - sg Burks - sf Peavy - pf Sorber - center Would this surprise anyone? Yes, Peavy at the 4 and no Fielder would be quite surprising. Should we assume there is a lingering injury with Fielder?
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Post by conshyhoya on Sept 9, 2024 10:46:40 GMT -5
Fwiw, there is quite a bit of chatter suggesting that the starting line up could very well be the following: Mack - pg Epps - sg Burks - sf Peavy - pf Sorber - center Would this surprise anyone? Using Peavy as the 4 would but I guess with that lineup they can switch Peavy and Burks easily
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Post by BeantownHoya on Sept 9, 2024 10:48:16 GMT -5
Fwiw, there is quite a bit of chatter suggesting that the starting line up could very well be the following: Mack - pg Epps - sg Burks - sf Peavy - pf Sorber - center Would this surprise anyone? Are you sure that Peavy and Burks are not reversed? That would surprise me...I would be shocked if Burks has the handle to play the 3...
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