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Post by hsaxon on Mar 26, 2024 21:32:15 GMT -5
Don't we have multiple openings at this point? Couldn't we just take one each from multiple AAU organizations and give everyone a slice of the pie? I know it's not that simple, but I also don't think it has to be necessarily an either-or situation at this point. Yes, but only one assistant/recruiting position. I think those roles tend to be considered as having more pull. But if the Player Development role can go to someone else in the competing AAU team, the more the more the merrier, I agree. I really don't know these politics at all to say whether that's even possible. Did someone besides Ivan Thomas leave?
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Post by hsaxon on Mar 26, 2024 21:34:46 GMT -5
Don't we have multiple openings at this point? Couldn't we just take one each from multiple AAU organizations and give everyone a slice of the pie? I know it's not that simple, but I also don't think it has to be necessarily an either-or situation at this point. Thomas was a recruiter, but not sure if Fahey was one of the three assistants allowed to recruit or not. So, at most 2 recruiting assistants. Fahey was helping with player development and game planning and sideline assistance. A few times during home game broadcasts announcers called out the size of the Georgetown staff stating it was one of the largest staff in the Big East. I do not think Fahey was a recruiting asst. Battle, Thomas, Blaney.
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Post by thedragon on Mar 29, 2024 0:34:34 GMT -5
Im not endorsing this but thought it interesting.
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Post by jwp91 on Mar 29, 2024 6:34:49 GMT -5
If you are a Stanford fan, it must be tough to see 3 former players as starters in the Sweet 16, with 2 additional guys in the portal.
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Post by professorhoya on Mar 29, 2024 7:18:02 GMT -5
If you are a Stanford fan, it must be tough to see 3 former players as starters in the Sweet 16, with 2 additional guys in the portal. It’s a shame. It’s hard to look forward to anything when you can’t retain players,(Or coaches if you are a stepping stone school), can’t keep players for 2-4 years to develop them or put them in a system. The product on the court is a lot worse, less system teams like Packline, Villanova Jay Wright dribble drive, Syracuse 2-3, Princeton can thrive. That variety and seeing Well oiled systems (with 3-4 year players) is what made college basketball unique coasted to the NBA (a superior league from a talent standpoint)
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Post by RockawayHoya on Mar 29, 2024 14:21:14 GMT -5
So here we are, approaching the end of another week with still no clarity on filling the assistant vacancy and at least 1 other open position. Yes, the staff needs to tread carefully and take a lot into consideration before making a decision. But at some point, inaction becomes the enemy of progress.
Seeing numbers being thrown around for players I would have hoped we would have at least thrown our hat into the ring for by now (but haven't) and programs we are looking to chase down in terms of competitiveness already make moves/offers for those very same players is not really instilling much confidence that, at the current pace our offseason planning is going, we are going to be able to add enough to put together a quality team next season.
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Post by royski on Mar 29, 2024 15:55:07 GMT -5
Has the same feel as any of the other failed offseasons so far. Hopefully it's a different result.
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Post by traversb on Mar 29, 2024 16:16:40 GMT -5
So here we are, approaching the end of another week with still no clarity on filling the assistant vacancy and at least 1 other open position. Yes, the staff needs to tread carefully and take a lot into consideration before making a decision. But at some point, inaction becomes the enemy of progress. Seeing numbers being thrown around for players I would have hoped we would have at least thrown our hat into the ring for by now (but haven't) and programs we are looking to chase down in terms of competitiveness already make moves/offers for those very same players is not really instilling much confidence that, at the current pace our offseason planning is going, we are going to be able to add enough to put together a quality team next season. Cooley was hired on March 20 and many have said how that was such a late start and how he was so disadvantaged because of it. That's why this year was such a failure. It's now 9 days after that this year and I think people should realize how silly that was especially considering he brought much of his staff with him. That said we really never got coaching announcements last year and the first big 3 transfers all announced on the same day or close to it last year and that was in early April. Maybe there is already a lot of pieces lined up and the incredible Georgetown PR department is holding all the news for one big splash. I wouldn't put anything past them.
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Post by Elvado on Mar 29, 2024 17:08:52 GMT -5
So here we are, approaching the end of another week with still no clarity on filling the assistant vacancy and at least 1 other open position. Yes, the staff needs to tread carefully and take a lot into consideration before making a decision. But at some point, inaction becomes the enemy of progress. Seeing numbers being thrown around for players I would have hoped we would have at least thrown our hat into the ring for by now (but haven't) and programs we are looking to chase down in terms of competitiveness already make moves/offers for those very same players is not really instilling much confidence that, at the current pace our offseason planning is going, we are going to be able to add enough to put together a quality team next season. Cooley was hired on March 20 and many have said how that was such a late start and how he was so disadvantaged because of it. That's why this year was such a failure. It's now 9 days after that this year and I think people should realize how silly that was especially considering he brought much of his staff with him. That said we really never got coaching announcements last year and the first big 3 transfers all announced on the same day or close to it last year and that was in early April. Maybe there is already a lot of pieces lined up and the incredible Georgetown PR department is holding all the news for one big splash. I wouldn't put anything past them. They may just be waiting for Ronnie’s okay on the press release announcing his triumphant return….
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Post by RockawayHoya on Mar 29, 2024 17:21:14 GMT -5
So here we are, approaching the end of another week with still no clarity on filling the assistant vacancy and at least 1 other open position. Yes, the staff needs to tread carefully and take a lot into consideration before making a decision. But at some point, inaction becomes the enemy of progress. Seeing numbers being thrown around for players I would have hoped we would have at least thrown our hat into the ring for by now (but haven't) and programs we are looking to chase down in terms of competitiveness already make moves/offers for those very same players is not really instilling much confidence that, at the current pace our offseason planning is going, we are going to be able to add enough to put together a quality team next season. Cooley was hired on March 20 and many have said how that was such a late start and how he was so disadvantaged because of it. That's why this year was such a failure. It's now 9 days after that this year and I think people should realize how silly that was especially considering he brought much of his staff with him. That said we really never got coaching announcements last year and the first big 3 transfers all announced on the same day or close to it last year and that was in early April. Maybe there is already a lot of pieces lined up and the incredible Georgetown PR department is holding all the news for one big splash. I wouldn't put anything past them. Agree. I'm not expecting a fully finalized roster at this point, but I also wasn't expecting at least the first of hopefully several dominoes to fall or to even be still short an assistant. For those to be saying, "well we waited just as long if not longer last year, so we shouldn't expect anything different this spring," I hope we are expecting different results than 9-23.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 29, 2024 17:44:13 GMT -5
Cooley was hired on March 20 and many have said how that was such a late start and how he was so disadvantaged because of it. That's why this year was such a failure. It's now 9 days after that this year and I think people should realize how silly that was especially considering he brought much of his staff with him. That said we really never got coaching announcements last year and the first big 3 transfers all announced on the same day or close to it last year and that was in early April. Maybe there is already a lot of pieces lined up and the incredible Georgetown PR department is holding all the news for one big splash. I wouldn't put anything past them. They may just be waiting for Ronnie’s okay on the press release announcing his triumphant return…. I just threw up in my mouth a little
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 29, 2024 17:54:06 GMT -5
So here we are, approaching the end of another week with still no clarity on filling the assistant vacancy and at least 1 other open position. Yes, the staff needs to tread carefully and take a lot into consideration before making a decision. But at some point, inaction becomes the enemy of progress. Seeing numbers being thrown around for players I would have hoped we would have at least thrown our hat into the ring for by now (but haven't) and programs we are looking to chase down in terms of competitiveness already make moves/offers for those very same players is not really instilling much confidence that, at the current pace our offseason planning is going, we are going to be able to add enough to put together a quality team next season. Cooley was hired on March 20 and many have said how that was such a late start and how he was so disadvantaged because of it. That's why this year was such a failure. It's now 9 days after that this year and I think people should realize how silly that was especially considering he brought much of his staff with him. That said we really never got coaching announcements last year and the first big 3 transfers all announced on the same day or close to it last year and that was in early April. Maybe there is already a lot of pieces lined up and the incredible Georgetown PR department is holding all the news for one big splash. I wouldn't put anything past them. I am getting nervous too. That said, things are surely happening behind the scenes that we do not know about, so I am hoping we will be surprised. Earlier this week Hilltop Hoya posted a semi-cryptic tweet seemingly indicating things might be happening this weekend. But, maybe I was just reading too much into it. Either way, there better be good things happening behind the scenes. I realize that Cooley was hired on March 20 but literally moving an entire staff from Providence to DC, getting set up, etc., all took a ton of time for Cooley and the staff. This year they don' have to do that. Hopefully that helps. We will know soon enough.
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Post by conshyhoya on Mar 29, 2024 18:16:47 GMT -5
Cooley was hired on March 20 and many have said how that was such a late start and how he was so disadvantaged because of it. That's why this year was such a failure. It's now 9 days after that this year and I think people should realize how silly that was especially considering he brought much of his staff with him. That said we really never got coaching announcements last year and the first big 3 transfers all announced on the same day or close to it last year and that was in early April. Maybe there is already a lot of pieces lined up and the incredible Georgetown PR department is holding all the news for one big splash. I wouldn't put anything past them. Agree. I'm not expecting a fully finalized roster at this point, but I also wasn't expecting at least the first of hopefully several dominoes to fall or to even be still short an assistant. For those to be saying, "well we waited just as long if not longer last year, so we shouldn't expect anything different this spring," I hope we are expecting different results than 9-23. There are still numerous teams still playing in both the NIT and NCAA tourneys so depending who is on their list of coaches they are looking at that person may not even be done with their current job. I would expect more news on the new assistant next week when most teams are done. And there are still hundreds of players entering the portal and only a small amount have committed so I don't get why people are so impatient. I would hope most of the transfers we are looking at are going to test the NBA waters to get feedback so those types of players aren't committing anytime soon.
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Post by hoyaboya on Mar 29, 2024 20:57:30 GMT -5
Cooley was hired on March 20 and many have said how that was such a late start and how he was so disadvantaged because of it. That's why this year was such a failure. It's now 9 days after that this year and I think people should realize how silly that was especially considering he brought much of his staff with him. That said we really never got coaching announcements last year and the first big 3 transfers all announced on the same day or close to it last year and that was in early April. Maybe there is already a lot of pieces lined up and the incredible Georgetown PR department is holding all the news for one big splash. I wouldn't put anything past them. I am getting nervous too. That said, things are surely happening behind the scenes that we do not know about, so I am hoping we will be surprised. Earlier this week Hilltop Hoya posted a semi-cryptic tweet seemingly indicating things might be happening this weekend. But, maybe I was just reading too much into it. Either way, there better be good things happening behind the scenes. I realize that Cooley was hired on March 20 but literally moving an entire staff from Providence to DC, getting set up, etc., all took a ton of time for Cooley and the staff. This year they don' have to do that. Hopefully that helps. We will know soon enough. Hilltop Hoops is rarely correct. How much more evidence do we need?
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Post by jwp91 on Mar 30, 2024 6:23:36 GMT -5
So here we are, approaching the end of another week with still no clarity on filling the assistant vacancy and at least 1 other open position. Yes, the staff needs to tread carefully and take a lot into consideration before making a decision. But at some point, inaction becomes the enemy of progress. Seeing numbers being thrown around for players I would have hoped we would have at least thrown our hat into the ring for by now (but haven't) and programs we are looking to chase down in terms of competitiveness already make moves/offers for those very same players is not really instilling much confidence that, at the current pace our offseason planning is going, we are going to be able to add enough to put together a quality team next season. Cooley was hired on March 20 and many have said how that was such a late start and how he was so disadvantaged because of it. That's why this year was such a failure. It's now 9 days after that this year and I think people should realize how silly that was especially considering he brought much of his staff with him. That said we really never got coaching announcements last year and the first big 3 transfers all announced on the same day or close to it last year and that was in early April. Maybe there is already a lot of pieces lined up and the incredible Georgetown PR department is holding all the news for one big splash. I wouldn't put anything past them. Let’s just say that withholding news of progress while trying to level up the performance of a group is not a best practice. It is quite the opposite. It makes me increasingly skeptical that real progress is being made. Holtmann may be signing empty bodies but at least he appears to be in action to address his team’s situation.
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Post by bearsandbulls on Mar 30, 2024 9:26:06 GMT -5
If you are a Stanford fan, it must be tough to see 3 former players as starters in the Sweet 16, with 2 additional guys in the portal. The tree is again losing its leaves. Coach gone, players transfer, and 'furd does not use the transfer portal per se. Only ornament on the tree is a well polished new coach. ACC coming up and we shall see. Same thing is their dilemma in football.
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Post by bearsandbulls on Mar 30, 2024 9:27:41 GMT -5
This season will be a big test of Fox with all those dollars in NIL. Will he perform?
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Post by professorhoya on Mar 30, 2024 11:07:39 GMT -5
If you are a Stanford fan, it must be tough to see 3 former players as starters in the Sweet 16, with 2 additional guys in the portal. The tree is again losing its leaves. Coach gone, players transfer, and 'furd does not use the transfer portal per se. Only ornament on the tree is a well polished new coach. ACC coming up and we shall see. Same thing is their dilemma in football. Why Doesn’t Stanford use the portal
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Post by thedragon on Mar 30, 2024 12:32:39 GMT -5
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Post by bearsandbulls on Mar 30, 2024 12:42:32 GMT -5
The tree is again losing its leaves. Coach gone, players transfer, and 'furd does not use the transfer portal per se. Only ornament on the tree is a well polished new coach. ACC coming up and we shall see. Same thing is their dilemma in football. Why Doesn’t Stanford use the portal Somewhat of a long story that may change with current realities, but they have never taken more than a handful of transfers, athletic or not. They believe strongly in the filtration of their entrance regimen. Just like Cal the grad schools are extremely hard if not near impossible to get into for athletes. Cal has had the same situation. An athlete may be able to get into one or two of the social science grad schools (public policy, I believe) but the rest are non approachable for athletes. So to get around it, they always have accepted transfers, but have develop a certificate program lately. Hope this helps. I am teasing about 'furd, as there is mutual respect except in Big Game weeks. Grads even intermarry---not like 'cuse and G'town...But then the academics are very different at those two.
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